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> S3 or glacier This is the same product. > 20TB I think we might be pushing the 1% case here. Just because we can shove 20TB of data into a cute little nas

> S3 or glacier This is the same product. > 20TB I think we might be pushing the 1% case here. Just because we can shove 20TB of data into a cute little nas does not mean we should. For me, knowledge that the data will definitely be there is way more important than having "free" access to a large pool of bytes.

Espressosaurus 2y ago
20 TB isn't that out of reach when you're running your media server and taking high resolution photos or video (modern cameras push a LOT of bits). I'm the last person I know who buys DVDs, and they're 2/3s of the reason I need more space. The last third is photography. 45.7 megapixels x 20 FPS adds up quick. S3's cost is extreme when you're talking in the tens of terabytes range. I don't have the upstream to seed the backup, and if I'm going outside of my internal network it's too slow to use as primary storage. Just the NAS on gigabit ethernet is barely adequate to the task.
lurking_swe 2y ago
hardly 1%, i’m sure anyone that works in the film industry or media in general has terabytes of video footage. Maybe even professional photographers who have many clients.
SteveNuts 2y ago
> knowledge that the data will definitely be there is way more important than having "free" access to a large pool of bytes Until Amazon inexplicably deletes your AWS account because your Amazon.com account had an expired credit card and was trying and failing to renew a subscription. Ask me how I know
Hamuko 2y ago
>This is the same product. Confusingly "Glacier" is both its own product, which stores data in "vaults", and a family of storage tiers on Amazon S3, which stores data in "buckets". I think Glacier the product is deprecated though, since accessing the Glacier dashboard immediately recommends using Glacier the S3 storage tiers instead.
queenkjuul 2y ago
20TB is a single drive
bambax 2y ago
I currently store 10 TB on my NAS, and growing. The data is live, I access some of it every day, sometimes remotely. I have 3 rotating "independent" backups in addition to the NAS (by independent I mean they're made with rsync and don't depend on any specific NAS OS feature), stored in an old safe that would probably not be very effective against thieves but should protect the drives in case of fire. There are no recurring costs to this setup except electricity. I don't think S3 can beat that.
Dylan16807 2y ago
> Just because we can shove 20TB of data into a cute little nas does not mean we should. Okay, I'm curious now. When you were talking about "a bunch of local disks", what size disk did you have in mind? Right now the best price per TB is found on disks in the 14-24TB range.
squigz 2y ago
20TB isn't all that much anymore, especially if you do anything like filming, streaming, photography, etc. Even a handful of HQ TV shows can reach several TB rather quickly.
- itstheporn 2y ago
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- 3eb7988a1663 2y ago
  Additionally, 20TB is only going to run you $300-400 for a consumer drive.
  - imtringued 2y ago
    Yes. 20TB isn't a NAS. It's the HDD acting as bulk storage in your desktop.
  - frontlodjkgi 2y ago
    It's wild consumer drives are so much more expensive than enterprise Exos drives with better performance, reliability and warranty

Espressosaurus 2y ago

20 TB isn't that out of reach when you're running your media server and taking high resolution photos or video (modern cameras push a LOT of bits). I'm the last person I know who buys DVDs, and they're 2/3s of the reason I need more space. The last third is photography. 45.7 megapixels x 20 FPS adds up quick. S3's cost is extreme when you're talking in the tens of terabytes range. I don't have the upstream to seed the backup, and if I'm going outside of my internal network it's too slow to use as primary storage. Just the NAS on gigabit ethernet is barely adequate to the task.

lurking_swe 2y ago

hardly 1%, i’m sure anyone that works in the film industry or media in general has terabytes of video footage. Maybe even professional photographers who have many clients.

SteveNuts 2y ago

> knowledge that the data will definitely be there is way more important than having "free" access to a large pool of bytes Until Amazon inexplicably deletes your AWS account because your Amazon.com account had an expired credit card and was trying and failing to renew a subscription. Ask me how I know

Hamuko 2y ago

>This is the same product. Confusingly "Glacier" is both its own product, which stores data in "vaults", and a family of storage tiers on Amazon S3, which stores data in "buckets". I think Glacier the product is deprecated though, since accessing the Glacier dashboard immediately recommends using Glacier the S3 storage tiers instead.

queenkjuul 2y ago

20TB is a single drive

bambax 2y ago

I currently store 10 TB on my NAS, and growing. The data is live, I access some of it every day, sometimes remotely. I have 3 rotating "independent" backups in addition to the NAS (by independent I mean they're made with rsync and don't depend on any specific NAS OS feature), stored in an old safe that would probably not be very effective against thieves but should protect the drives in case of fire. There are no recurring costs to this setup except electricity. I don't think S3 can beat that.

Dylan16807 2y ago

> Just because we can shove 20TB of data into a cute little nas does not mean we should. Okay, I'm curious now. When you were talking about "a bunch of local disks", what size disk did you have in mind? Right now the best price per TB is found on disks in the 14-24TB range.

squigz 2y ago

20TB isn't all that much anymore, especially if you do anything like filming, streaming, photography, etc. Even a handful of HQ TV shows can reach several TB rather quickly.

itstheporn 2y ago
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3eb7988a1663 2y ago
Additionally, 20TB is only going to run you $300-400 for a consumer drive.
- imtringued 2y ago
  Yes. 20TB isn't a NAS. It's the HDD acting as bulk storage in your desktop.
- frontlodjkgi 2y ago
  It's wild consumer drives are so much more expensive than enterprise Exos drives with better performance, reliability and warranty