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But even that doesn't make any sense. There's been nothing any liberal has done that has been nearly as disruptive as the trade war started by the current right

But even that doesn't make any sense. There's been nothing any liberal has done that has been nearly as disruptive as the trade war started by the current right-wing administration.

bigyabai 2y ago
It's certainly disruptive. But if you asked me in 2018 whether I'd be surprised by Tim Cook donating to Trump's inaugeration, I'd know my answer. I'm a queer man, it's not like Tim's marketing is lost on me. But I see the way he behaves and the principles he sacrifices for success; he's a CCP pundit, of course he's willing to toe the conservative party line. This goes for almost all leadership you hold to represent "progress" in the private sector. Fairweather friends, until being enemies is more profitable.
zeroCalories 2y ago
Then you're not paying attention. U.S tech companies are the envy of the world, and every country is looking to limit or cripple them in some way. TikTok is a prime example of how government support has allowed a foreign tech company to unseat what should be an unmoving dominance of western tech. Without equally aggressive support it's only a matter of time before the magnificent 7 are gone, and the Biden admin seemed to be working in the opposite direction.
- cruzcampo 2y ago
  But the tariffs are what will cause them to be gone. It's literally the EU's planned response should Trump not back down from his trade war: https://www.reuters.com/technology/eu-could-tax-big-tech-if-trump-trade-talks-fail-von-der-leyen-says-ft-2025-04-10/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/eu-could-tax-big-tech-if-...
  - zeroCalories 2y ago
    If you watch their actions it's clear they're already planning it either way. Australia and Canada are pretty much running extortion on social media companies to subsidize local industry, the EU is trying to break up and companies with stuff like DMA, and of course other markets like China don't even bother pretending to care for our companies. As much as I dislike someone like Vance, his willingness to threaten countries for their plans to regulate Twitter is the kind of support big tech needs that the Biden admin had no interest in giving.
    - watwut 2y ago
      The most powerful billionaires are basically victims ... while their actual victims don't matter.
    - cruzcampo 2y ago
      I strongly disagree with you here. I think big tech has become way too powerful and has increasingly been wielding said power for evil. I think breaking it up and regulating it is the way forward if we want to save our democracies.
      - zeroCalories 2y ago
        See? You fundamentally don't care about big tech, so why should it care about you? I care about big tech because big tech is America. We've invested all our best and most productive people into tech, and it carries our whole economy and U.S hegemony in general. I don't want to cripple our industry or let someone usurp it. I want democrats to work with big tech to minimize the harm domestically while maintaining dominance.
        cruzcampo 2y ago
        Big tech is America? What are you even talking about? Big Tech is a tiny fraction of America that's increasingly hated by the rest of the country - and the world. It's actively harmful to US hegemony, too, with industry leaders starting fights with your closest allies.
        disgruntledphd2 2y ago
        Tech and finance keep the US economy afloat. It's rather like an Irish person defending transfer pricing. Probably morally wrong but completely understandable.
        totalkikedeath 2y ago
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But even that doesn't make any sense. There's been nothing any liberal has done that has been nearly as disruptive as the trade war started by the current right-wing administration.

bigyabai 2y ago

It's certainly disruptive. But if you asked me in 2018 whether I'd be surprised by Tim Cook donating to Trump's inaugeration, I'd know my answer. I'm a queer man, it's not like Tim's marketing is lost on me. But I see the way he behaves and the principles he sacrifices for success; he's a CCP pundit, of course he's willing to toe the conservative party line. This goes for almost all leadership you hold to represent "progress" in the private sector. Fairweather friends, until being enemies is more profitable.

zeroCalories 2y ago

Then you're not paying attention. U.S tech companies are the envy of the world, and every country is looking to limit or cripple them in some way. TikTok is a prime example of how government support has allowed a foreign tech company to unseat what should be an unmoving dominance of western tech. Without equally aggressive support it's only a matter of time before the magnificent 7 are gone, and the Biden admin seemed to be working in the opposite direction.

cruzcampo 2y ago
But the tariffs are what will cause them to be gone. It's literally the EU's planned response should Trump not back down from his trade war: https://www.reuters.com/technology/eu-could-tax-big-tech-if-trump-trade-talks-fail-von-der-leyen-says-ft-2025-04-10/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/eu-could-tax-big-tech-if-...
- zeroCalories 2y ago
  If you watch their actions it's clear they're already planning it either way. Australia and Canada are pretty much running extortion on social media companies to subsidize local industry, the EU is trying to break up and companies with stuff like DMA, and of course other markets like China don't even bother pretending to care for our companies. As much as I dislike someone like Vance, his willingness to threaten countries for their plans to regulate Twitter is the kind of support big tech needs that the Biden admin had no interest in giving.
  - watwut 2y ago
    The most powerful billionaires are basically victims ... while their actual victims don't matter.
  - cruzcampo 2y ago
    I strongly disagree with you here. I think big tech has become way too powerful and has increasingly been wielding said power for evil. I think breaking it up and regulating it is the way forward if we want to save our democracies.
    - zeroCalories 2y ago
      See? You fundamentally don't care about big tech, so why should it care about you? I care about big tech because big tech is America. We've invested all our best and most productive people into tech, and it carries our whole economy and U.S hegemony in general. I don't want to cripple our industry or let someone usurp it. I want democrats to work with big tech to minimize the harm domestically while maintaining dominance.
      - cruzcampo 2y ago
        Big tech is America? What are you even talking about? Big Tech is a tiny fraction of America that's increasingly hated by the rest of the country - and the world. It's actively harmful to US hegemony, too, with industry leaders starting fights with your closest allies.
        disgruntledphd2 2y ago
        Tech and finance keep the US economy afloat. It's rather like an Irish person defending transfer pricing. Probably morally wrong but completely understandable.
      - totalkikedeath 2y ago
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