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That seriously devalues MarkMonitor's services. MarkMonitor claims to be a "an ICANN-accredited registrar and recognized industry leader since 1999". The whole
by Animats 2y ago
That seriously devalues MarkMonitor's services. MarkMonitor claims to be a
"an ICANN-accredited registrar and recognized industry leader since 1999".
The whole point of paying for MarkMonitor is that they're an expensive service for valuable domains and are not allowed to screw up. GoDaddy should not be involved here at all.
- Maxious 2y agoGoDaddy runs the root dns for .us
- dawnerd 2y agoWait really? I use a .us domain for personal stuff, that.. makes me want to reconsider.
- NewJazz 2y agoAlso .us domains don't have who is privacy.
- gerdesj 2y agoPlease don't keep us in suspense ... who is privacy?
- stwrzn 2y agoThey probably meant "whois privacy"[1] (without the space). Whois is basically a way to get information about a domain name (and many other stuff). Whois privacy just ensures that your address, name and other stuff is not public. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_privacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_privacy
- imcritic 2y agoThey were probably joking when they asked that question. Your reply doesn't seem sarcastic, so I take it you genuinely r/whoosh'ed (that's a reference to a subreddit about situations where someone is acting clueless).
- stwrzn 2y agoI know ;) Some people still value an explanation though.
- 0_gravitas 2y agoRealistically, I don't think HN is the place for those kinds of jokes, which are best kept for reddit/twitter.
- kitchi 2y agoYeah I'm increasingly seeing these reddit-style low effort jokes on here, hopefully it's transient as folks acclimatize to the culture and customs here.
- lazide 2y agoYeah I found that out when I stupidly used my real contact info, and ended up getting spammed all to hell.
- talideon 2y agoWHOIS privacy isn't a registry-level service. It's a registrar-level service.
- Kwpolska 2y agoIt’s both. Some domains do not allow WHOIS privacy (.us is one of them), some have it built-in, while most don’t care and registrars can fill in with fake data.
- AStonesThrow 2y ago> GoDaddy runs the root dns for .us .us is not the “root DNS” and your misidentification is muddying the waters. .us is a TLD (Top-Level Domain) and more specifically, a ccTLD (cc = ‘Country Code’). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us And the English Wikipedia says that its registrar is a subsidiary of GoDaddy named “Registry Services, LLC”. The root DNS servers and registry are not run by GoDaddy or a subsidiary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server They are operated by important entities. Not companies that release sexy commercials featuring Danica Patrick. I keep getting confused between GoDaddy and Carl’s, Jr.
- gjsman-1000 2y ago[flagged]
- bo0tzz 2y agoThat's not what they said.
- bjt 2y ago.us is not a root name server. The root name servers are one more degree removed.
- kowabungalow 2y agoHence 'for .us'. The trouble with this form of pedantic is that the nicer way to interpret the misunderstanding is that the pedant is ignorant either of language or the structure of dns. "He runs the Internet routers for our company." -> "Your company doesn't run the Internet" -> wtf?
- fluidcruft 2y agoIt was a clarification that GoDaddy's ability to fuck everything up isn't quite as broad as suggested.
- mentalgear 2y agoGoDaddy is the rot of us domains, besides being rotten culturally as well
- unethical_ban 2y agoI understood what you meant. I can understand why someone would want to clarify the terminology for those who don't know DNS well.
- TheDong 2y agoMarkMonitor isn't at fault here. If you register a ".ps" domain, it doesn't matter if you use MarkMonitor or Namecheap, they can't help you when the ongoing genocide results in the removal of Palestine as a country and ".ps" no longer is a valid country code top level domain. Similarly, if you register a .us domain instead of a ".com", ".net", or ".org", MarkMonitor can't help you when GoDaddy inevitably screws up. History has borne this out: .com domains are well-managed. ccTLDs like '.io', '.su', and '.fj' have all had significant security or availability issues because they're run by "eh, whoever the hell the country picks" with no standards. Financially, a proper gTLD also can't raise prices unilaterally and weirdly, while if you pick a ccTLD, the country has free reign to arbitrarily change prices, delete your domain, take over your domain, etc etc. Do not use a ccTLD.
- Animats 2y ago> MarkMonitor isn't at fault here. Yes, it is. "Their enforcement team works with platforms to remove infringing content and can even help with legal proceedings if needed. They don't just find problems—they help solve them through their connections with major online platforms and their understanding of takedown procedures." What you're paying for is MarkMonitor's people having the cell phone number of the guy at the operations end of whatever point in the chain screwed up. At least that was their original pitch. Now, they have a whole range of tracking services which you can get elsewhere.
- grasps 2y ago[flagged]
- slackr 2y agoICJ judges in The Hague, including Israel’s appointed judge, deemed it necessary to remind Israel to respect the Palestinians’ right to not be genocided away. https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/South_Africa_v._Israel_(Order_of_26_January_2024) https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/South_Africa_v._Israel_(Ord...
- e-brake 2y ago
- electroly 2y agoGoDaddy Registry operates the .us registry. You cannot have a .us domain without their involvement. Consider whether you wanted a .com domain instead (which is operated by Verisign).
- throw_a_grenade 2y agozoom.com is an audio equipment manufacturer, which was there before zoom.us. I guess that's what happens where they had to accept substandard domain, because they were unwilling to be creative about their name.
- redbell 2y agoBut the dot com domain is now owned by Zoom Communications or just Zoom (as we know it). If you type "zoom.us" in your browser, you will be redirected to https://www.zoom.com/ https://www.zoom.com/
- rhubarbtree 2y agoIncidentally, Zoom seems a terrible name for a video conferencing app - anyone know why they chose it?
- thund 2y agoSubjective, Zoom is a pretty cool name
- j45 2y agoOne guess - fast video.
- j45 2y agoAdded context: Zoom delivered a step change in video conferencing quality for the many, vs the few, and in a lot of ways did seem to force others to be better. During the pandemic many people used zoom more than their cell phones.
- anal_reactor 2y ago[flagged]
- vjaowegn 2y ago[dead]
- redbell 2y ago> The whole point of paying for MarkMonitor is that they're an expensive service for valuable domains A while ago and, out of curiosity, I did a Whois Lookup to see what big tech companies are using as their domain registrar and found that Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Tesla, Netflix and Shopify are all using MarkMonitor. On the other hand Apple uses "Nom-iq Ltd. dba COM LAUDE", Meta (and its children) uses RegistrarSafe and Nvidia uses SafeNames.
- taspeotis 2y ago> COM LAUDE Someone had fun with that one.
- JadeNB 2y ago[dead]
- jenny91 2y agoRegistrarSafe is a registrar spun up by Meta for precisely the purpose of guarding their own domains and isn't open to external customers.
- conradev 2y agoMany of those also run their own gTLDs, too: .apple, .google, etc
- snowwrestler 2y agoThat’s interesting, Apple used to use CSC, which is the “other” big corporate registrar, competitor to MarkMonitor.
- ValveFan6969 2y agoAgreed. This is a whole lot of screw ups that I would have expected from the indie company down the street, not an ICANN accredited registrar. It's pretty pathetic when it takes public pressure for the ICANN to finally start doing their goddamn job.
- renegade-otter 2y agoThese big companies spend tens of millions on homegrown tooling, even their own languages and databases, but they can't assign one dev to write a domain-monitoring tool?
- lazide 2y agoIt’s one of those ‘this problem is so simple, our big corporation cannot hope to solve it’ type of problems.
- dewey 2y agoYou are thinking like a developer. In reality that means that now they are responsible for it, if MarkMonitor messes something up they can use their relationship to all the registrars to fix the problem and MarkMonitor is on the hook in case anything goes wrong. This is a better situation to be in than some internal tooling that failed to notify someone because it got forgotten after the developer left.
- draw_down 2y ago[dead]
- crazygringo 2y agoBecause it's cheaper and more reliable to outsource that to a company specializing in it. If one dev had written it, how many times would that tool have failed by now? When the original dev left the company a decade ago, the tool has been transferred between teams six times, it failed a migration and the email address it used to send errors to no longer exists so nobody noticed, and it's literally gotten lost in the shuffle?
- zippergz 2y agoMarkmonitor is much more about the people and service behind it rather than the software. To replace markmonitor you don't need a dev to write a tool. You need a dev to write a tool, and then a team of people who build relationships with everyone in the domain world and are available 24/7 to make calls and deal with issues if they come up.
- debarshri 2y agoI guess they are paying markmonitor because of their ability to reach out to Godaddy and get stuff resolved. Imagine being a small startup with a similar problem. Godaddy will not even entertain you.
- busy_m 2y ago[dead]
- thayne 2y agoWell, another point of MarkMonitor is to get access to ccTLDs with requirements that are more difficult for you to meet yourself. Like needing to have a physical address within the country. MarkMonitor has offices in a bunch of countries just to meet that requirement, so they can sell ccTLD domains to customers. The legality of that system seems a little questionable to me, but IANAL.
- fsckboy 2y ago>The whole point of paying for MarkMonitor is that they're an expensive service for valuable domains the whole point of MarkMonitor is more in the trademark realm, rather than a cloud sysop role. "Mark" is what trademarks are called in the ... trade.