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Main advantage over Sonnet is Gemini 2.5 doesn't try to make a bunch of unrelated changes like it's rewriting my project from scratch.

itsmevictor 2y ago
I find Gemini 2.5 truly remarkable and overall better than Claude, which I was a big fan of
- enraged_camel 2y ago
  Still doesn't work well in Cursor unfortunately.
  - ai-christianson 2y ago
    Works well in RA.Aid --in fact I'd recommend it as the default model in terms of overall cost and capability.
  - plantain 2y ago
    Working fine here. What problems do you see?
    - michaelbarton 2y ago
      Not the OP but believe they could be referring to the fact it’s not supported in edit mode yet, only agent mode. So far for me that’s not been too much of a roadblock. Though I still find overall Gemini struggles with more obscure issues such as SQL errors in dbt
  - pdntspa 2y ago
    Cline/Roo Code work fine with it
jdgoesmarching 2y ago
Also that Gemini 2.5 still doesn’t support prompt caching, which is huge for tools like Cline.
- scrlk 2y ago
  2.5 Pro supports prompt caching now: https://cloud.google.com/vertex-ai/generative-ai/docs/models/gemini/2-5-pro https://cloud.google.com/vertex-ai/generative-ai/docs/models...
  - jdgoesmarching 2y ago
    Oh, that must’ve been in the last few days. Weird that it’s only in 2.5 Pro preview but at least they’re headed in the right direction. Now they just need a decent usage dashboard that doesn’t take a day to populate or require additional GCP monitoring services to break out the model usage.
Workaccount2 2y ago
It's viable context, context length where is doesn't fall apart, is also much longer.
zaptrem 2y ago
I do find it likes to subtly reformat every single line thereby nuking my diff and making its changes unusable since I can’t verify them that way, which Sonnet doesn’t do.
bitbuilder 2y ago
This was incredibly irritating at first, though over time I've learned to appreciate this "extra credit" work. It can be fun to see what Claude thinks I can do better, or should add in addition to whatever feature I just asked for. Especially when it comes to UI work, Claude actually has some pretty cool ideas. If I'm using Claude through Copilot where it's "free" I'll let it do its thing and just roll back to the last commit if it gets too ambitious. If I really want it to stay on track I'll explicitly tell it in the prompt to focus only on what I've asked, and that seems to work. And just today, I found myself leaving a comment like this: //Note to Claude: Do not refactor the below. It's ugly, but it's supposed to be that way. Never thought I'd see the day I was leaving comments for my AI agent coworker.
- TuxSH 2y ago
  > If I'm using Claude through Copilot where it's "free" Too bad Microsoft is widely limiting this -- have you seen their pricing changes? I also feel like they nerfed their models, or reduced context window again.
  - Aeolun 2y ago
    Claude is almost comically good outside of copilot. When using through copilot it’s like working with a lobotomized idiot (that complains it generated public code about half the time).
    - TuxSH 2y ago
      It used to be good, or at least quite decent in GH Copilot, but it all turned into poop (the completions, the models, everything) ever since they announced the pricing changes. Considering that M$ obviously trains over GitHub data, I'm a bit pissed, honestly, even if I get GH Copilot Pro for free.
erikw 2y ago
What language / framework are you using? I ask because in a Node / Typescript / React project I experience the opposite- Claude 3.7 usually solves my query on the first try, and seems to understand the project's context, ie the file structure, packages, coding guidelines, tests, etc, while Gemini 2.5 seems to install packages willy-nilly, duplicate existing tests, create duplicate components, etc.
- unsupp0rted 2y ago
  Node / Vue

itsmevictor 2y ago

I find Gemini 2.5 truly remarkable and overall better than Claude, which I was a big fan of

enraged_camel 2y ago
Still doesn't work well in Cursor unfortunately.
- ai-christianson 2y ago
  Works well in RA.Aid --in fact I'd recommend it as the default model in terms of overall cost and capability.
- plantain 2y ago
  Working fine here. What problems do you see?
  - michaelbarton 2y ago
    Not the OP but believe they could be referring to the fact it’s not supported in edit mode yet, only agent mode. So far for me that’s not been too much of a roadblock. Though I still find overall Gemini struggles with more obscure issues such as SQL errors in dbt
- pdntspa 2y ago
  Cline/Roo Code work fine with it

jdgoesmarching 2y ago

Also that Gemini 2.5 still doesn’t support prompt caching, which is huge for tools like Cline.

scrlk 2y ago
2.5 Pro supports prompt caching now: https://cloud.google.com/vertex-ai/generative-ai/docs/models/gemini/2-5-pro https://cloud.google.com/vertex-ai/generative-ai/docs/models...
- jdgoesmarching 2y ago
  Oh, that must’ve been in the last few days. Weird that it’s only in 2.5 Pro preview but at least they’re headed in the right direction. Now they just need a decent usage dashboard that doesn’t take a day to populate or require additional GCP monitoring services to break out the model usage.

Workaccount2 2y ago

It's viable context, context length where is doesn't fall apart, is also much longer.

zaptrem 2y ago

I do find it likes to subtly reformat every single line thereby nuking my diff and making its changes unusable since I can’t verify them that way, which Sonnet doesn’t do.

bitbuilder 2y ago

This was incredibly irritating at first, though over time I've learned to appreciate this "extra credit" work. It can be fun to see what Claude thinks I can do better, or should add in addition to whatever feature I just asked for. Especially when it comes to UI work, Claude actually has some pretty cool ideas. If I'm using Claude through Copilot where it's "free" I'll let it do its thing and just roll back to the last commit if it gets too ambitious. If I really want it to stay on track I'll explicitly tell it in the prompt to focus only on what I've asked, and that seems to work. And just today, I found myself leaving a comment like this: //Note to Claude: Do not refactor the below. It's ugly, but it's supposed to be that way. Never thought I'd see the day I was leaving comments for my AI agent coworker.

TuxSH 2y ago
> If I'm using Claude through Copilot where it's "free" Too bad Microsoft is widely limiting this -- have you seen their pricing changes? I also feel like they nerfed their models, or reduced context window again.
- Aeolun 2y ago
  Claude is almost comically good outside of copilot. When using through copilot it’s like working with a lobotomized idiot (that complains it generated public code about half the time).
  - TuxSH 2y ago
    It used to be good, or at least quite decent in GH Copilot, but it all turned into poop (the completions, the models, everything) ever since they announced the pricing changes. Considering that M$ obviously trains over GitHub data, I'm a bit pissed, honestly, even if I get GH Copilot Pro for free.

erikw 2y ago

What language / framework are you using? I ask because in a Node / Typescript / React project I experience the opposite- Claude 3.7 usually solves my query on the first try, and seems to understand the project's context, ie the file structure, packages, coding guidelines, tests, etc, while Gemini 2.5 seems to install packages willy-nilly, duplicate existing tests, create duplicate components, etc.

unsupp0rted 2y ago
Node / Vue