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Charging a subscription fee is crazy for a product that is very expensive. I do not know why they are still around.

by jmclnx 2y ago

rchaud 2y ago
Enterprise-level budgets.
- maxerickson 2y ago
  An annual subscription to the whole suite is less than a weeks pay for someone that would be using it in the US, so no need for the Enterprise-level.
  - rchaud 2y ago
    Enterprise can pay the rising susbcription costs without blinking, a solo business will think twice.
donatj 2y ago
Muscle memory. I could probably get by with something cheaper but I have been using photoshop for thirty years at this point, I know hot keys and workflows at a spiritual level at this point.
ge96 2y ago
I have this popup in Win 10 that will not go away, out of nowhere "DING" "Would you like to use Adobe PDF?" It's built into Windows like wth
adzm 2y ago
I pay $20 a month for the educational discount and my kids get access to every Adobe product. It is an amazing deal. When you are an adult not in school you probably don't need "all apps" and it is relatively inexpensive to get just the product you use. Anyway, they are still around because they still have some of the best set of features, and are industry standards, though this may change in the future and in some areas is already in progress (and I welcome that! They need competition to push them)
- matwood 2y ago
  When I took a lot more pictures, LR was hard to beat. I use Photomator now, but if I ever get back to taking tons of pics again I know I'll resub to LR.
- cosmic_cheese 2y ago
  I’d much rather just pay the single time purchase prices they used to ask for. The subscription is only a “good deal” for the first 2-3 years, after which you end up paying more than you would have with the one-time. The single time purchase also has the added benefit of letting me use that version however long I like. Personally I don’t need much of anything that’s been added since CS2, and as such a user I’d normally only be buying new versions of Photoshop when the one I own stops running on modern operating systems. It also means you’re not bombarded with UI shifting around for no good reason, some feature getting pushed in your face for the sake of some PM’s metrics, etc. The only reason I even have a CC sub right now is because a credit card benefit essentially pays for it. If/when that benefit disappears so does my sub.
- rcxdude 2y ago
  >though this may change in the future and in some areas is already in progress (and I welcome that! They need competition to push them) A big part of how they keep their relevance is people using those 'educational discounts' so that they are the tools that everyone learns to use in school, building up a moat against any alternative.
BeetleB 2y ago
People don't want to use Gimp, which is the next most powerful photo editing software :-)
- mamonoleechi 2y ago
  Scaling Text in Gimp still rasterize the layer in 2025 :) besides that, Gimp 3 is pretty nice.
sureIy 2y ago
I hate it too (and never had to use it) but $20/month is peanuts for people who use it professionally, unless they're from third world countries (which likely pirate it anyway)
- schrijver 2y ago
  The suite is $60 / month, which is not peanuts, especially since the vast majority of self-employed creatives aren’t exactly raking in cash.
  - doublerabbit 2y ago
    Sure, but unlike a purchased copy if you are unable to afford the subscription your locked out from your own work.
max51 2y ago
No, it's not crazy, all the companies making expensive software are moving to subscriptions and they love the result. It is a lot easier to sell and to get people to renew their licenses. And 20$/m is not what I would call "very expensive" in the context of a professional product used by people and companies who make a profit from it. By comparison, Autocad and Revit are 350$/m each

Charging a subscription fee is crazy for a product that is very expensive. I do not know why they are still around.

by jmclnx 2y ago

Charging a subscription fee is crazy for a product that is very expensive. I do not know why they are still around.

rchaud 2y ago

Enterprise-level budgets.

maxerickson 2y ago
An annual subscription to the whole suite is less than a weeks pay for someone that would be using it in the US, so no need for the Enterprise-level.
- rchaud 2y ago
  Enterprise can pay the rising susbcription costs without blinking, a solo business will think twice.

donatj 2y ago

Muscle memory. I could probably get by with something cheaper but I have been using photoshop for thirty years at this point, I know hot keys and workflows at a spiritual level at this point.

ge96 2y ago

I have this popup in Win 10 that will not go away, out of nowhere "DING" "Would you like to use Adobe PDF?" It's built into Windows like wth

adzm 2y ago

I pay $20 a month for the educational discount and my kids get access to every Adobe product. It is an amazing deal. When you are an adult not in school you probably don't need "all apps" and it is relatively inexpensive to get just the product you use. Anyway, they are still around because they still have some of the best set of features, and are industry standards, though this may change in the future and in some areas is already in progress (and I welcome that! They need competition to push them)

matwood 2y ago
When I took a lot more pictures, LR was hard to beat. I use Photomator now, but if I ever get back to taking tons of pics again I know I'll resub to LR.
cosmic_cheese 2y ago
I’d much rather just pay the single time purchase prices they used to ask for. The subscription is only a “good deal” for the first 2-3 years, after which you end up paying more than you would have with the one-time. The single time purchase also has the added benefit of letting me use that version however long I like. Personally I don’t need much of anything that’s been added since CS2, and as such a user I’d normally only be buying new versions of Photoshop when the one I own stops running on modern operating systems. It also means you’re not bombarded with UI shifting around for no good reason, some feature getting pushed in your face for the sake of some PM’s metrics, etc. The only reason I even have a CC sub right now is because a credit card benefit essentially pays for it. If/when that benefit disappears so does my sub.
rcxdude 2y ago
>though this may change in the future and in some areas is already in progress (and I welcome that! They need competition to push them) A big part of how they keep their relevance is people using those 'educational discounts' so that they are the tools that everyone learns to use in school, building up a moat against any alternative.

BeetleB 2y ago

People don't want to use Gimp, which is the next most powerful photo editing software :-)

mamonoleechi 2y ago
Scaling Text in Gimp still rasterize the layer in 2025 :) besides that, Gimp 3 is pretty nice.

sureIy 2y ago

I hate it too (and never had to use it) but $20/month is peanuts for people who use it professionally, unless they're from third world countries (which likely pirate it anyway)

schrijver 2y ago
The suite is $60 / month, which is not peanuts, especially since the vast majority of self-employed creatives aren’t exactly raking in cash.
- doublerabbit 2y ago
  Sure, but unlike a purchased copy if you are unable to afford the subscription your locked out from your own work.

max51 2y ago

No, it's not crazy, all the companies making expensive software are moving to subscriptions and they love the result. It is a lot easier to sell and to get people to renew their licenses. And 20$/m is not what I would call "very expensive" in the context of a professional product used by people and companies who make a profit from it. By comparison, Autocad and Revit are 350$/m each