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What a great idea, scaring companies probing bluesky. That surely won't backfire and will cement bluesky as a Xitter alternative.
by shaky-carrousel 2y ago
What a great idea, scaring companies probing bluesky. That surely won't backfire and will cement bluesky as a Xitter alternative.
- miohtama 2y agoBluesky audience is certain kind, more left leaning, finding corporations evil. Adobe's experiment shows that it is unlikely any big corp could go there any time until the audience is more diverse, less cancel culture.
- pm90 2y agoThe reaction seems specific to Adobe which has (probably) not been a good steward of its role as a tool for creatives. I don’t think other big corps would get that reaction.
- jsheard 2y agoExactly, compare and contrast how bsky users engage with an Adobe peer that creatives are on good terms with. https://bsky.app/profile/procreate.com/post/3llfkv3mqas2s https://bsky.app/profile/procreate.com/post/3llfkv3mqas2s
- slowmovintarget 2y agoThat post seems an awful lot like pandering to the crowd there. More adroit PR, perhaps.
- cosmic_cheese 2y agoThat’s part of it, but it helps a lot that Procreate’s both extremely affordable and a single purchase. That’s a great combo when your target audience are artists, a crowd that is generally pretty cash-strapped. Creative Cloud’s cost is actually pretty steep over time. It also helps that when Procreate adds features, it’s always stuff that’s desired by a large chunk of their users and is broadly useful. Contrast this to e.g. Photoshop, where for many of us eliminating 98% of the new features added since CS2 would make no material difference in day to day usage. Adobe would be well served by building “heirloom” versions of their tools that are single-purchase, affordable, and have a fixed CS1/CS2-ish feature set with all development thereafter being put into optimization, stability, etc. That’d be plenty for even many commercial artists, let alone “prosumers” and more casual users.
- DrillShopper 2y agoNot particularly. What they do seem to have is a more artist-heavy community, and that community has been fucked over by Adobe over the last decade or so.
- samlinnfer 2y agoThe most artist heavy platform is twitter.
- chowells 2y agoNot anymore. Twitter has worked very hard to drive artists away. And succeeded!
- phillipcarter 2y agoMy dude have you not been on twitter ever?
- netsharc 2y ago[flagged]
- skybrian 2y agoMy guess is that most Bluesky users are doing their own thing and never noticed this until after it was over and appeared in the news. But it does seem like there is a large crowd of nasty people in Bluesky, and that seems like a bad sign.
- drooopy 2y agoI don't know if I would refer to Adobe as being evil, but they're definitely one of the shittiest software companies in existence. And I'm 100% convinced that they would receive the same type of welcome if they made a xshitter account today.
- rsynnott 2y agoAdobe is special. They have a pretty narrow specific audience who are kinda stuck with them, and who they’ve spent the last decade industriously pissing off. Bluesky _is_ less tolerant than Twitter of “hello, we’re a brand, aren’t we wonderful/funny”, but I think this particular reaction is more about it being Adobe than anything else.
- 0xEF 2y ago> more diverse, less cancel culture I love when people use this to mean "more white and conservative." Bluesky users lean toward hating corporate greed. Adobe is greedy as fuck. Simple as. They and companies like them can stay off.
- ChocolateGod 2y agoAre you claiming cancel culture isn't real?
- gdulli 2y ago"Cancel culture" is just a term we started using to cope with seeing people we're sympathetic to being judged for their words or actions.
- ChocolateGod 2y agoYes, good idea trawling up things people said when they were dumb and young, which they don't even think or agree with today, and trying to cancel their career over it. Not to benefit society, but to make one feel good about themselves about the victory they achieved in ruining someones life.
- danudey 2y ago"Hey, this dude posted something wildly, rabidly racist in public on main a while ago. Maybe we should reconsider what kind of person we think they are instead of just taking their word that they're 'not like that anymore' and aren't just better at hiding their real opinions that they know are unacceptable to voice in modern society." The people trotting out the phrase "cancel culture" as a boogeyman also tend to run around being apologists for racism, sexism, assault, or criminal behavior. Regardless of if you're actually upset about legitimate instances of people overreacting, the fact that the term "cancel culture" is used to complain about pedophiles or sexual predators actually suffering consequences makes it difficult to take any complaints seriously.
- JKCalhoun 2y agoSo you think Adobe would get a resoundingly warm welcome on X? Pretty sure they trashed their own brand with their subscription model. They're finding that out now. I jumped to Affinity apps years ago when Adobe required a subscription — never looked back.
- teraflop 2y agoMaybe, just maybe, the platforms that we use to engage socially with other human beings don't also have to be organized around engaging commercially with brands.
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- ryandrake 2y agoThank you. I would not accept a corporate brand sending me text messages. I don't want to "engage" with brands. The less of this garbage on the Internet, the better.
- llm_nerd 2y agoThen don't follow or engage with their content? You understand that's your option, right? I actually enjoy Bsky as a replacement for Twitter mostly to keep on top of news (tech and otherwise, the tech often coming from the source), along with a small selection of high profile figures. So I follow those sources and venues. It is absolutely pathetic that a small mob attacked Adobe -- primarily a super aggressive anti-AI contingent that runs around like a sad torch mob on bsky -- and I hope Adobe return to the platform. It would be nice for people like me, who chose to follow these brands, to see the news from Adobe, OpenAI, Microsoft, etc, and my choice shouldn't be limited by those people.
- scheeseman486 2y agoIf they can't take the heat from their customers, that's their problem. And you can always subscribe to Adobe's email list.
- llm_nerd 2y agoThis is such an amazingly toxic, selfish attitude that you have. Is this how you really live your life? It wasn't "their customers" that brigaded. It is the clowns who have decided that Bluesky is their own. They are the ones that will keep it from hitting mainstream, and hopefully the service crushes their obnoxious activism.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y agoIt's already a Twitter alternative that's superior by virtue of being in its pre-enshittification era. It may never be a Twitter alternative in the sense of making anyone a billionaire, but I'm okay with that.
- ruined 2y agoyes!
- wesselbindt 2y ago[flagged]
- nashashmi 2y agoCorporations are people too.
- thih9 2y agoNo, the moral is different: if you’re a company notoriously hostile to creatives, don’t ask in a post “What’s fueling your creativity right now?” - and if you do then don’t be surprised when you get honest answers.
- sitkack 2y agoIt isn't "an idea", it is a justified response. Crocodile tears for the poor company that got drunk on enshittifying its own brand and now has to sleep in it. Adobe's takeover is like it freebased Private Equity and now complains that it has no friends. The TOS change to have AI train on all your art is really what broke people.
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- ndsipa_pomu 2y agoI'd say this is less to do specifically with BlueSky and more to do with posting tone-deaf marketing spiel.
- mayneack 2y agoI personally am more likely to use a social media site without brands.
- fracus 2y agoMaybe the Bluesky selects the community they want and that is why people are enjoying it.
- Retr0id 2y agoThe presence of obnoxious brand accounts is very far down my list of desires from a social network.
- wnevets 2y ago> What a great idea, scaring companies probing bluesky. you make that sound like a bad thing
- rchaud 2y agoThe public yearns for formulaic engagement slop /s