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It's good to hear that scammers are taking your grandparents retirement money as reparations for colonial acts?

throwaway48476 2y ago
Most people dramatically underestimate how widespread their cultural moral system is. Billions of people live in cultures where scamming is perfectly moral.
- pembrook 2y ago
  And most people dramatically underestimate what a death sentence a low trust society is for economic development. Countries that allow a culture of scamming are all poor because a low trust society will never develop into a first world economy. Trust and property rights are the basis of all development and investment and human collaboration.
  - stouset 2y ago
    Which is why it’s so depressing to see the U.S. backslide into this so quickly and willfully.
    - terribleperson 2y ago
      Honestly, I don't think it's been fast. We're just in the final phases. It's been building for decades. Venerating making money over all else and justifying anything as long as it's profitable and you get away with it has been going on for a while. Everyone sees the very wealthy and politically connected getting away with crimes and things that should be crimes, and that culture of money above all spreads. Corruption starts at the top, but eventually it's everywhere.
- netsharc 2y ago
  For today's whataboutism: billions of people live in cultures where buying the best-priced product and not noticing or ignoring the slave labour or environmental costs in the production chain is perfectly moral. E.g. https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-merchant-iphone-supplychain-20170723-story.html https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-merchant-iphone-... There's also a lack of outrage of how our trash gets exported. It's the phone producer or the trash-people's crooked morals, not ours.. ;-)
Krasnol 2y ago
Why are you repeating what I wrote? Calling Globalization "colonial acts" is a nice touch, though. Thanks.
- aswegs8 2y ago
  Come on, please keep these kind of polemics off HN...

Most people dramatically underestimate how widespread their cultural moral system is. Billions of people live in cultures where scamming is perfectly moral.

pembrook 2y ago
And most people dramatically underestimate what a death sentence a low trust society is for economic development. Countries that allow a culture of scamming are all poor because a low trust society will never develop into a first world economy. Trust and property rights are the basis of all development and investment and human collaboration.
- stouset 2y ago
  Which is why it’s so depressing to see the U.S. backslide into this so quickly and willfully.
  - terribleperson 2y ago
    Honestly, I don't think it's been fast. We're just in the final phases. It's been building for decades. Venerating making money over all else and justifying anything as long as it's profitable and you get away with it has been going on for a while. Everyone sees the very wealthy and politically connected getting away with crimes and things that should be crimes, and that culture of money above all spreads. Corruption starts at the top, but eventually it's everywhere.
netsharc 2y ago
For today's whataboutism: billions of people live in cultures where buying the best-priced product and not noticing or ignoring the slave labour or environmental costs in the production chain is perfectly moral. E.g. https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-merchant-iphone-supplychain-20170723-story.html https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-merchant-iphone-... There's also a lack of outrage of how our trash gets exported. It's the phone producer or the trash-people's crooked morals, not ours.. ;-)

Krasnol 2y ago

Why are you repeating what I wrote? Calling Globalization "colonial acts" is a nice touch, though. Thanks.

aswegs8 2y ago
Come on, please keep these kind of polemics off HN...