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Who is this French researcher and what exactly did he say? I have read a few news pieces but none mentioned any details. Maybe I missed something? I'm not impl

Who is this French researcher and what exactly did he say? I have read a few news pieces but none mentioned any details. Maybe I missed something? I'm not implying anything, but anyone could have written a news piece like that.

giraffe_lady 2y ago
Intentionally or not you are definitely implying that specifics of the statements make this action correct. Saying you're not doing something is not quite the same thing as actually not doing it.
- Almondsetat 2y ago
  Killing is generally bad, but in some cases it can even be good. So, in absence of details what can you truly say about a killing?
  - freejazz 2y ago
    What could anyone say about the US president that would justify this? An actual threat on his life? The secret service doesn't appear to be involved. There are no allegations its anything of the sort. Let's not disregard our own faculties for reasoning just based upon the principle that it is conceivable that something could be true.
    - cryptonector 2y ago
      The only allegations we have are those of the researcher.
  - giraffe_lady 2y ago
    We don't have an absence of details. We have a lot of details about the current administration of the united states, what their goals are, who they perceive their enemies to be, and what tools they intend to use against them.
GlobalFrog 2y ago
Basically, he didn't say anything. At the entry point, he was asked to show his phone (unlocked) and computer. On one of them, in some messages he exchanged with a colleague, he was criticizing the politics of Trump in research and science. Then, he was threatened to be charged with terrorism, because his exchange with his colleague was 'hainous against Trump' and 'conspiracy ridden'. Charges were dropped after he was denied entry and his computed and phone confiscated.
- gambiting 2y ago
  How do you know this? edit: I see this has been now downvoted below zero, but the information posted here isn't in any of the official communications about it, so I think it's fair to ask where it came from, no?
  - kergonath 2y ago
    It’s in the article.
    - gambiting 2y ago
      That's all the article says, so it doesn't match everything OP said. So either OP made it up, or there is another source in case it's exactly what I'm asking for. "According to a diplomatic source to AFP, the incident occurred on March 9. The space researcher was reportedly subjected to a random check upon arrival, during which his work computer and personal phone were searched. The same source also reported that messages discussing the Trump administration's treatment of scientists were found. He was reportedly accused of messages "that reflect hatred toward Trump and can be described as terrorism ." His professional and personal equipment was reportedly confiscated, and the researcher was sent back to Europe the next day."
GuB-42 2y ago
He had his personal phone searched so I assume it is private information.
- deleted 2y ago
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boringg 2y ago
There needs to be more information - in the absence of it conspiracy theories are abound.
- guelo 2y ago
  We're not getting more information. Border police refuse to talk to the press or provide any information. Trump's border chief, who was Greg Abbott's Texas border czar, is known as secretive and has ignored public records requests from the press.
guelo 2y ago
This is ridiculous. Why are they even searching their phone? Many Americans travel to Europe without having their phones searched. We do not want to become that kind of scary country to travel to, especially not the kind of shithole country where you have to be afraid not to offend dear leader.
- andrewinardeer 2y ago
  Australian authorities will search your phone upon arrival if they believe it contains CSAM.
  - gambiting 2y ago
    Just a reminder that UK Border Force can confiscate all of your electronic devices for 7 days and you have to give them all your passwords to these devices and associated accounts - refusing to do so is punishable by up to 2 years in prison. And no, they don't need any warrant, just a probable cause. If you want to see more how that looks like this is a video by a guy who experienced it first hand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=991kRp8KUmo&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=991kRp8KUmo&t=1s
    - guelo 2y ago
      UK is one of several countries issuing travel warnings because US border gestapo have been putting Europeans in chains and deporting them. Apparently we have gone insane as a country. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2030132/UK-issues-new-travel-warning https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2030132/UK-issues-new-t...
    - cryptonector 2y ago
      To my knowledge in the U.S. foreigners can only be denied entry for refusing to give up their passwords. I suppose an act of Congress could make it more like the situation in the UK.
  - guelo 2y ago
    I travel to Australia regularly to visit my wife's family and I have never had my phone searched.

giraffe_lady 2y ago

Intentionally or not you are definitely implying that specifics of the statements make this action correct. Saying you're not doing something is not quite the same thing as actually not doing it.

Almondsetat 2y ago
Killing is generally bad, but in some cases it can even be good. So, in absence of details what can you truly say about a killing?
- freejazz 2y ago
  What could anyone say about the US president that would justify this? An actual threat on his life? The secret service doesn't appear to be involved. There are no allegations its anything of the sort. Let's not disregard our own faculties for reasoning just based upon the principle that it is conceivable that something could be true.
  - cryptonector 2y ago
    The only allegations we have are those of the researcher.
- giraffe_lady 2y ago
  We don't have an absence of details. We have a lot of details about the current administration of the united states, what their goals are, who they perceive their enemies to be, and what tools they intend to use against them.

GlobalFrog 2y ago

Basically, he didn't say anything. At the entry point, he was asked to show his phone (unlocked) and computer. On one of them, in some messages he exchanged with a colleague, he was criticizing the politics of Trump in research and science. Then, he was threatened to be charged with terrorism, because his exchange with his colleague was 'hainous against Trump' and 'conspiracy ridden'. Charges were dropped after he was denied entry and his computed and phone confiscated.

gambiting 2y ago
How do you know this? edit: I see this has been now downvoted below zero, but the information posted here isn't in any of the official communications about it, so I think it's fair to ask where it came from, no?
- kergonath 2y ago
  It’s in the article.
  - gambiting 2y ago
    That's all the article says, so it doesn't match everything OP said. So either OP made it up, or there is another source in case it's exactly what I'm asking for. "According to a diplomatic source to AFP, the incident occurred on March 9. The space researcher was reportedly subjected to a random check upon arrival, during which his work computer and personal phone were searched. The same source also reported that messages discussing the Trump administration's treatment of scientists were found. He was reportedly accused of messages "that reflect hatred toward Trump and can be described as terrorism ." His professional and personal equipment was reportedly confiscated, and the researcher was sent back to Europe the next day."

GuB-42 2y ago

He had his personal phone searched so I assume it is private information.

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boringg 2y ago

There needs to be more information - in the absence of it conspiracy theories are abound.

guelo 2y ago
We're not getting more information. Border police refuse to talk to the press or provide any information. Trump's border chief, who was Greg Abbott's Texas border czar, is known as secretive and has ignored public records requests from the press.

guelo 2y ago

This is ridiculous. Why are they even searching their phone? Many Americans travel to Europe without having their phones searched. We do not want to become that kind of scary country to travel to, especially not the kind of shithole country where you have to be afraid not to offend dear leader.

andrewinardeer 2y ago
Australian authorities will search your phone upon arrival if they believe it contains CSAM.
- gambiting 2y ago
  Just a reminder that UK Border Force can confiscate all of your electronic devices for 7 days and you have to give them all your passwords to these devices and associated accounts - refusing to do so is punishable by up to 2 years in prison. And no, they don't need any warrant, just a probable cause. If you want to see more how that looks like this is a video by a guy who experienced it first hand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=991kRp8KUmo&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=991kRp8KUmo&t=1s
  - guelo 2y ago
    UK is one of several countries issuing travel warnings because US border gestapo have been putting Europeans in chains and deporting them. Apparently we have gone insane as a country. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2030132/UK-issues-new-travel-warning https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2030132/UK-issues-new-t...
  - cryptonector 2y ago
    To my knowledge in the U.S. foreigners can only be denied entry for refusing to give up their passwords. I suppose an act of Congress could make it more like the situation in the UK.
- guelo 2y ago
  I travel to Australia regularly to visit my wife's family and I have never had my phone searched.