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There's something about the title that irks me the wrong way. X restricts Y from being awesome. Apple also restricts me from being awesome because they didn't

There's something about the title that irks me the wrong way. X restricts Y from being awesome. Apple also restricts me from being awesome because they didn't give me a million dollar. I get what the message is and I think I agree with Pebble on the iPhone being more closed off, but putting the blame on some outside thing for yourself not being awesome just feels immature. It's just as easy to turn it around: by developing the iPhone in the first place and getting it in the hands of a lot of people, Apple makes it possible for Pebble to be at least close to awesome.

burnte 2y ago
> Apple also restricts me from being awesome because they didn't give me a million dollar. This is a disingenuous argument. The two are nothing alike. One is about how they artificially limit their platform for their own dominance, and the other is literally just giving away money. One hurts consumers and competitors, the other is a nonsense expectation that no reasonable person has.
- rambambram 2y ago
  That disingenuous argument is an example, of course. I already put that inside my argument. It's the chosen words that irk me. Apple does things, yes. But it not only restricts Pebble, as they make it seem, it restricts everybody.
  - bitpush 2y ago
    I dont fault Apple. A company exists to make maximum money. Most monopolistic actions look like normal business decision, dare I say, even obvious. In this case, Apple is 100% exhibiting those tendencies. They are not acting maliciously, but their actions have that effect.
bitpush 2y ago
Sometimes I wonder whether people are willfully ignorant, or just simply trying to pick a fight. Please read what you wrote yourself, and put yourself in the shoes of someone who might actually be affected. If you cant think of any failure cases ("edge cases", in programming parlance), please read on - You've essentially reduced every monopolistic tendancies companies exhibit into a positive thing. - Amazon restricting smaller third-party vendors - according to you, not a problem - Microsoft ensuring their favored browser (IE) is successful unfairly - according to you, not a problem. Those are just 2 examples I could think of at the top of my head.
- rambambram 2y ago
  Read what I write, please. Every word, every sentence. It's not that hard. Let me spell it out again for you: the wording of the title irks me the wrong way. If you have anything to reply, than reply to that.

burnte 2y ago

> Apple also restricts me from being awesome because they didn't give me a million dollar. This is a disingenuous argument. The two are nothing alike. One is about how they artificially limit their platform for their own dominance, and the other is literally just giving away money. One hurts consumers and competitors, the other is a nonsense expectation that no reasonable person has.

rambambram 2y ago
That disingenuous argument is an example, of course. I already put that inside my argument. It's the chosen words that irk me. Apple does things, yes. But it not only restricts Pebble, as they make it seem, it restricts everybody.
- bitpush 2y ago
  I dont fault Apple. A company exists to make maximum money. Most monopolistic actions look like normal business decision, dare I say, even obvious. In this case, Apple is 100% exhibiting those tendencies. They are not acting maliciously, but their actions have that effect.

bitpush 2y ago

Sometimes I wonder whether people are willfully ignorant, or just simply trying to pick a fight. Please read what you wrote yourself, and put yourself in the shoes of someone who might actually be affected. If you cant think of any failure cases ("edge cases", in programming parlance), please read on - You've essentially reduced every monopolistic tendancies companies exhibit into a positive thing. - Amazon restricting smaller third-party vendors - according to you, not a problem - Microsoft ensuring their favored browser (IE) is successful unfairly - according to you, not a problem. Those are just 2 examples I could think of at the top of my head.

rambambram 2y ago
Read what I write, please. Every word, every sentence. It's not that hard. Let me spell it out again for you: the wording of the title irks me the wrong way. If you have anything to reply, than reply to that.