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Two new PebbleOS watches

• timvdalen 2y ago
  I realized a long time ago that I don't actually want a smartwatch, but this _is_ making me very nostalgic
  • al_borland 2y ago
    I'm very tempted to order one, but I made a similar decision recently. I got rid of my Apple Watch and replaced it with a cheap wrist heart rate monitor that can connect to a phone, but doesn't need to (and I didn't). I wear it at the gym and that's it. That's all smart watches ever were for me, and if this isn't what Pebble is going for, it sounds like I should pass. Though I will be keeping an eye on them incase my needs change. I hope they do well and stay true to their ethos, and avoid trying to chase or become the Apple Watch.
  • ivanb 2y ago
    At one point I had a Blackberry Passport and a Pebble. The future looked bright.
• diggan 2y ago
  Maybe I skimmed too quickly, are there no size/dimensions published? Seems the display size is there, and the strap width, but no other details as far as I can tell.
  • legitster 2y ago
    On the store page there are dimensions.
    • diggan 2y ago
      I think you're gonna have to be more specific, this page? https://store.repebble.com/ https://store.repebble.com/ All I see is display size and strap width there.
• desireco42 2y ago
  Look Eric, I had and loved Pebble in the past. You sold us and ditched us first chance you got. Why would we trust you now? Lovingly, Zeljko
• brcmthrowaway 2y ago
  Where are the ai features
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• erohead 2y ago
  I'll be hanging out here - happy to answer any questions you have!
  • goosedragons 2y ago
    What does Intel think about that name and was it intentional? Any plans for a more sporty model (i.e., HR, GPS?)?
    • erohead 2y ago
      Intentional?? :) Core Time 2 has a heart rate monitor!
  • varbhat 2y ago
    I was interested in NFC payments using a smartwatch. Do these watches support NFC payment? I didn't see any mention of it.
    • erohead 2y ago
      Nope. I just use my phone.
      • yalok 2y ago
        anecdotally, NFC payment is my #1 use for Apple Watch, by far. It's so much work to pull out a phone and unlock it! :)
    • isjustintime 2y ago
      Personally I never found myself using my NFC payment watch. It felt like if I was venturing far enough to the store, I'm just going to bring my phone with me anyways. I wonder if this differs for areas that don't get as much suburban sprawl.
      • eisa01 2y ago
        I never bring my phone with me when I go running, but occasionally pick something up and pay with my watch afterwards
• xrd 2y ago
  I know battery life is impacted but I really want exactly this with GPS. I want to be able to track my runs. I love the banglejs because it is hackable but the GPS was very difficult to use. But it is such a fun device to hack on.
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  • lrvick 2y ago
    The firmware is open. You could add a GPS backpack and firmware support if you wanted.
  • 4k93n2 2y ago
    the option to pair with an external gps would be better all round, apart from having a separate thing to carry. i have a garmin glo 2 that i pair to my android when doing openstreetmap stuff, and its something that you would barely notice in your pocket or clipped onto a backpack
• solox3 2y ago
  > Core 2 Duo Is that not one of Intel's trademarks from the past 20 years?
  • jchw 2y ago
    I actually checked because I thought the same thing immediately, but I think what Intel actually trademarked was "Core", as in "Intel® Core™2 Duo" The closest mark I could find is a wordmark for INTEL CORE INSIDE DUO cancelled in 2014 due to disuse. https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=78775512&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=78775512&caseSearchType=U...
• advisedwang 2y ago
  Is the weight and thickness of the watches announced anywhere?
• I_am_tiberius 2y ago
  I guess this is fairly unrelated to repebble
  • ulbu 2y ago
    check the store link
  • Tiberium 2y ago
    Not sure what you mean? Those are the exact watches Repebble is selling https://store.repebble.com/ https://store.repebble.com/
• BiteCode_dev 2y ago
  I want it, and yet I know that not only I don't need it, but I likely won't use it that much. This is really like a cool gadget purchase impulse.
• codingmoney 2y ago
  It's great to see PebbleOS making a comeback! Regarding the questions about NFC payments and GPS, these would definitely be valuable features to consider for future models. The demand is clearly there, and it would make the watches more competitive with other smartwatches on the market.
• enragedcacti 2y ago
  As a Pebble fan I'm sad to say I'm a little bit disappointed. I love the pebble ethos but I think the design for the Core Time 2 is a step back in terms of style compared to the final Pebble options. I rocked an OG Pebble and it was nerdy in a way that I didn't mind at the time, but now with smartwatches being so common and having so many cheap and feature packed options with multi-day battery life I think the styling matters a lot more. Pebble in particular could have a big advantage here with the reflective display since you can show a lot of personality in the always-on watch face without it being distracting, but I think you would need a more minimal and sleek body to make that a selling feature. As it is I find the pricing to be a hard sell given how many features you are losing compared even to cheap fitness bands e.g. lots of advanced health tracking, NFC payments. I applaud Eric on self-funding the project and I'm sure the risk and volume questions there are contributors to the cost. All that said, I may still pick up a duo because there really isn't anything like a Pebble and I would really like this to be a success so that we can see lower prices, more styles, and an even more awesome community at some point in the future.
  • JoshTriplett 2y ago
    > more minimal and sleek body I don't think that this should be trying to compete head-on with existing smartwatches on styling. And for the purposes of a hackable device, a larger screen seems like a selling point. Also, the larger screen makes touchscreen features more usable.
    • enragedcacti 2y ago
      Agreed with respect to size and the touchscreen which I do think is a great addition. I just think something that's more of a continuation of the Time series designs would be better fitting for a $200+ option. The Time 2 body which would have had the exact same screen would be fine by me.
      • esel2k 2y ago
        100percent - that is the single thing holding me back to preorder. The time 2 body would be an instant buy.
• maufl 2y ago
  Why does the Core 2 Duo not have a heart rate monitor (which I think my Pebble 2 had) and why does the Core Time 2 not have the barometer and compass? It makes it really difficult for me to decide which to get. Also, I have a small preference for the design of the original Pebble Time 2 over the Core Time 2 ...
  • margalabargala 2y ago
    Very much agree. I want to go take this on a hike in the wilderness. I want a compass and a heart rate monitor. Barometer would be nice but I could take or leave.
    • apparent 2y ago
      This would be nice, but for me I'd never go hiking without my iPhone (especially since they now have satellite-based messaging). I assume there was a tradeoff here, and even if it was just a bit more battery I probably would have to agree with ditching these bits.
      • margalabargala 2y ago
        That's a fair point. My phone has a compass, so I can always look at a compass there. Not having it on the watch is just an inconvenience. My phone isn't a heart monitor.
• apparent 2y ago
  This blog post [1] makes it seem like the cheaper model has a barometer and compass, but the more expensive one does not. Anyone know if that is true? 1: https://ericmigi.com/blog/introducing-two-new-pebbleos-watches https://ericmigi.com/blog/introducing-two-new-pebbleos-watch...
  • margalabargala 2y ago
    Everything appears to point that way, yes. This thread is full of people complaining how these aren't like their preferred watches, in terms of design, face shape, no GPS, etc. I think this is a much more valid criticism in that their expensive flagship watch is not like their cheaper watch.
    • apparent 2y ago
      Is there anything else lacking? I ordered the color one without much thought and only saw the barometer/compass bit afterward.
    • macNchz 2y ago
      It's kind of weird segmentation, but, given neither has GPS, I wonder how many people who'd seriously consider buying one of these really care about having a compass & barometer. Are those often important features to someone who doesn't care about GPS?
      • hn8726 2y ago
        You can track elevation with barometer which is nice for casual hiking in the mountains
        • inasio 2y ago
          I had an old Suunto from before they went to crap, by far my favourite function was vertical speed, and it relied only on the accelerometer (the watch had GPS, but turning it on killed battery life). I still tried a couple of newer models but they removed that function.
• greetings 2y ago
  Are there any plans for a circular screen? I would love one of these devices, but the screen feels like it may be bulky on my wrist.
  • modeless 2y ago
    Eric has mentioned that they might later do a Pebble Time Round equivalent. Not this year though. And I have the perfect name for it: the Second Time ‘Round.
    • erohead 2y ago
      Holy crap, I almost want to make it just so we can name it that.
      • wlesieutre 2y ago
        I’d buy one! With the Bluetooth power use improvements mentioned for today’s watches, the tiny Round battery ought to be good for a week or more now, right? My main complaint about Apple Watch is the size, so a very slim watch might get me to switch back. Have a Time in a drawer somewhere, but I assume its battery is shot by now.
      • Daegalus 2y ago
        I'm hesitant to order because I much preferred the designs of the PTS and PTR. And I had a PTS for years. I hope you do consider it in the future, as I am having a hard time pulling the trigger purely for design reasons, the rest is great.
  • DecentShoes 2y ago
    I don't understand this in the slightest. There's no advantage whatsoever to a round screen, but tons of disadvantages. Why not make your phone screen round? Why not make your computer screen round? Your TV? Please, Core, resist the temptation to enshittify yourself with another useless round screen.
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• wferrell 2y ago
  Who did the product design (cad, picking components, etc) for both of these watches? Is this in house? (shout them out!) or did you work with an outside firm, and if so which one?
• hombre_fatal 2y ago
  Pretty cool. I'd like to hack around with the HR sensor, so I pre-ordered the Time 2. What are good resources for looking into building an app for it? I see the OS is hosted here https://github.com/pebble-dev/pebble-firmware https://github.com/pebble-dev/pebble-firmware But most pebble-related google searches bring up ancient material and I'm not sure what's still relevant.
  • modeless 2y ago
    The ancient material is relevant because nothing has changed since the company went out of business :) I'm wearing a Pebble right now and I was able to update one of my favorite watchfaces using a docker container of the old Pebble SDK. The blog post says there will be an updated SDK released with the new watches.
  • erohead 2y ago
    We're still working on improving the documentation, but here's a good place to start https://github.com/richinfante/rebbletool https://github.com/richinfante/rebbletool and https://developer.rebble.io/developer.pebble.com/tutorials/js-watchface-tutorial/part1/index.html https://developer.rebble.io/developer.pebble.com/tutorials/j...
• apparent 2y ago
  I'm pleased the pricing is so low. I did some math and if they're making 10k of these (not clear if that's each or all together), there's not a ton of money to be made. Assuming $100 average profit, that's a $2M for 20k watches. Given the work opportunities that the founder and other employees have, that's not a lot of money for them to make in a year, and it comes with significant risk. Basically seems like this is a passion project, for which I am very grateful!
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  • nebulous1 2y ago
    $100 profit on a $150 watch would be crazy. Rest of the post seems made up too. I don't know where these numbers are coming from. I'm genuinely confused.
    • apparent 2y ago
      I was using a blended average of the $150 and $225 watches. Also, it sounds like some of the components for the $150 watch were literally left over from Pebble days, which means they could have gotten an amazing deal on them.
    • IshKebab 2y ago
      Nah that's pretty typical, depending on what you mean by "profit".
      • ac29 2y ago
        Right, that is presumably gross profit per unit, not net. Net profit could easily be zero or negative.
    • roboror 2y ago
      Not crazy at all in consumer electronics, that's margin on the parts only. R&D, admin, software, etc. costs need to be recovered from that money.
• mouse_ 2y ago
  Shouldn't call it Core 2 Duo...
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• InkCanon 2y ago
  Definitely excited for this! Been wanting a hackable smartwatch for awhile now.
• solarkraft 2y ago
  Core 2 Duo is a pretty funny name. Are you going to sell replacement parts this time? I was immensely disappointed to see the initial watches being pretty repairable in theory, but no parts being sold. It was marketed as a tinkerer‘s device after all. I’m wearing my Pebble Time Steel right now - and quite like it. Haven’t found anything better. It could use some better activity tracking, but the worst thing about it right now is that it doesn’t really have an iOS app (AltStore is pretty flaky). Any news on that front? For some reason there just hasn’t been a real spiritual successor, so the revival is greatly appreciated.
  • thekoma 2y ago
    > Core 2 Duo is a pretty funny name. I remember there was also an Intel processor with the same name.
    • starttoaster 2y ago
      I'm guessing that is why they said it was a funny name.
  • apparent 2y ago
    > it doesn’t really have an iOS app (AltStore is pretty flaky). Any news on that front? I thought the Pebble app still worked, using Rebble. My understanding is that they are building a new app for the new watches, if that's what you were asking about.
    • zevon 2y ago
      The only way to install the old iOS Pebble app is by sideloading via something like AltStore (or doing it manually every week). Maybe you can also still re-install it if you had it installed when it was available in the App Store but I'm not sure if that still works.
  • KeplerBoy 2y ago
    There's no way it's actually shipping with that name, right?
• rcarmo 2y ago
  Very nice. I love my OG Pebble (even if I now use an Apple Watch), and I dream of the day when I will go back to having an all-week battery...
• pnemonic 2y ago
  I am beside myself with excitement. This has been in the back of my mind 8 years, I always believed. I have never pre-ordered anything this quickly in my life.
• andrewmutz 2y ago
  The demo image of getting a text message about a party on your watch is an example of everything that is wrong with wearable computing. The last thing I need is more invasive notifications.
• QuantumNoodle 2y ago
  As someone who has exclusively worn a pebble since it was crowd funded, I am trilled. I love purpose built devices[0] that don't attempt to do everything. I don't need a watch that does everything, just triage notification and perform time related activities and get out of the way. Pebble has always fit that niche. The fact that I can hack on it and mold it to my needs has been icing. I have some sincere questions on the design choices. For context, I own a pebble time (everyday wear for triaging notifications) and a polar watch (for exercise tracking). Also part of a cycling community where we swap exercise watches to try out what else is out there. I have found I always sleep in my polycarb pebble time because I forget I am wearing it - it is that unnoticeable. 1) Why limit Core 2 Duo screen to BW? Feels like a step back when the Core Time 2 will have it. Sourcing parts? 2) According to the blog, I understand the Core Time 2 is your (Eric's) dream watch, so not trying to rain on your parade but trying to reason about the audience you're catering to here. The heart rate monitor suggests that it can be used to track physical activity. But... no GPS, metal (heavy) case, and protruding sensor diminish the utility of the sensor. If you've ever run with a light watch, you'll start noticing how quickly metal watches fatigue the skin. I've slept with watches on that track my sleep (optically) and the protruding sensors always causes pressure points - similar to a pebble (heh) in the shoe. Having 30 days battery life, speaker, and better vibration make for a great gadget that doesn't need to be taken off... unless it is not comfortable. [0]: https://www.polar.com/en/science/whitepapers https://www.polar.com/en/science/whitepapers Purpose built devices are optimized and companies that build they have domain knowledge. You've probably never heard of polar but they publish the science behind their features where as garmin has nice looking gear but has gimmicky features, like "body battery"
  • apparent 2y ago
    > Why limit screen to BW? There's one with a color screen.
  • erohead 2y ago
    1) Yes, the hardest part of building a watch is getting a display. There is only 1 vendor and we have to use what they make. Custom displays cost $1m+ and take 18 months to build. 2) It's not a running watch. I'd recommend getting garmin if you're looking for that.
• zokier 2y ago
  I wonder how good the sleep tracking is without heart monitoring?
• nabaraz 2y ago
  All i want is sleep and step tracking. Is this a good option?
  • jmcphers 2y ago
    Probably not if you care about accuracy. Really good sleep tracking requires more sensors than these devices have.
    • pornel 2y ago
      Quite the opposite. Pebble is great at sleep tracking. They manage to do a better job with Pebble's limited sensors than Apple can with all of their hardware. I have both, I use sleep tracking a lot, and I've compared them.
• officeplant 2y ago
  Honestly getting the Core 2 Duo just because of the funny name. I miss my old Pebble sometimes so it will be a neat tinker toy.
• rescbr 2y ago
  As a previous PTS2 backer, I knew I couldn't hesitate. I had to pre-order both watches at once. But whenever July (and December) comes, I'm very much going to dread the import duty on these things.
• nashashmi 2y ago
  I am annoyed at the name, core 2 duo. Could have changed it to core 2 duos, just so it doesn’t confuse people who search for it.
• RandomBacon 2y ago
  I liked the old feature of the alarm clock vibrating when the wearer was in the good phase of sleep to wake up in, please make sure the new watches also have that. I preordered.
  • modeless 2y ago
    It'll be the same alarm app on the same OS since Google open sourced it.
• AndroidKitKat 2y ago
  Would have been nice to see a model without a microphone. I understand I'm a minoritiy (workplace doesn't allow devices with mics), but being severely hamstrung with smartwatch choices that don't have a microphone is tough. Will still definitely buy one to support the project, and will eagerly watch (heh) for new models!
  • BariumBlue 2y ago
    Strange - I would expect a workplace that doesn't allow mics to also disallow bluetooth
    • Yhippa 2y ago
      Security theater
    • AndroidKitKat 2y ago
      Agree with sibling, security theater largely. I suspect the logic of banning is to stop recordings of conversations, whereas Bluetooth is just a protocol for sending data. Eliminate collection sensors and mediums for transmit are fine. I did decide to purchase a Pebble Time Steel and a new battery alongside the Core 2 Duo. I hope that with Eric back in charge, the old Pebbles will be allowed to use the new app and hopefully get modern apps.
• carlgreene 2y ago
  Does it say the thickness or weight of them anywhere on there? They look awesome! But I really care about how it feels on the wrist
• toisanji 2y ago
  I want minimal plastic in my life. its too bad the core 2 duo is made of plastic, otherwise I would buy it. I don't care for color.
• dheera 2y ago
  Love it. I would absolutely love if they would consider making the Core Time 2 in a slightly more timeless outer case than this "sport" look.
• elliot07 2y ago
  Bought the Core 2 Duo, but I really wanted it to have a HR sensor. May have to buy the other one too.
• juujian 2y ago
  These look really appealing. What are the most common use cases for these other than telling the time? Are they gimmicky or actually useful?
  • apparent 2y ago
    Elimination of phantom vibrations. You always know when your phone buzzed if your wrist buzzes right afterward. Also nice to see what a notification is without having to take out your phone.
  • pornel 2y ago
    Pebble is still way better at sleep (and nap) tracking than Apple Watch. I have a tendency to stay up late and get up at random times, so I need to track if I get enough sleep.
• starkparker 2y ago
  The "having a baby"/"having a baby bok choi party" attempt to sell me on the larger screen did not work, but it did make me laugh.
  • __MatrixMan__ 2y ago
    I might tolerate the larger screen if I got an invite to that baby bok choi party. Delicious.
• nickthegreek 2y ago
  > Core 2 Duo has an ultra crisp black and white display, polycarbonate frame, costs $149 and starts shipping in July. > Core Time 2 has a larger 64-colour display, metal frame, costs $225 and starts shipping in December Pretty affordable!
• lptptech 2y ago
  please also bring back a version of pebble time round! it was so classy and slim that no round smartwatch since has been able to compete. my wife is still wearing it everyday! i had to learn soldering to replace the battery :)
• chc4 2y ago
  I've wanted to play around with a color ePaper watch for a while, including debating buying an old Pebble Time, so this seems like a great excuse to pull the trigger. For people who have developed apps for them in the past, does everyone just use the embedded JavaScript engine? For maintaining apps that modify the firmware or talk to new peripherals does that require maintaining a fork or is there some module system?
  • ramses0 2y ago
    Get on their discord. Bangle has the JS thing, pebble watch faces used a c-variant, I don't remember if their applets used something different. AFAIK, if you're doing firmware replacements you're likely going to be maintaining an "out of tree fork" unless it's already well-modularized in the way you're imagining.
• marsknight 2y ago
  I almost bought one and I'd love to. But then I've read in the Q&A about the tariffs and how that would affect the price at time of shipment. This is too much uncertainty for me. I've got no incentive to buy from the US right now, as a European. I wish you the best of luck, as you definitely put a lot of love into it
  • mrzool 2y ago
    Same here. Based in the EU, I was ready to buy one on day one, but when I saw the prices listed only in USD I had to stop right there. Just the shipping alone would be $25, plus the uncertainty of duty fees. I hope to see an EU store soon — with prices in EUR, low-cost shipping, and all fees already factored in.
    • erohead 2y ago
      International shipments will not be sent from the USA; they'll be shipped directly from Asia. The comment is in reference to your own countries - they may charge tariffs.
      • zyxin 2y ago
        I will be visiting China later this year, any chance I can get one while I'm there via something like TaoBao to save on tax and shipping?
      • mrzool 2y ago
        Thanks for clarifying! It would be helpful to mention that in the FAQ — knowing that the US has no involvement when ordering from the EU would be reassuring.
• jezze 2y ago
  I would buy one but only if I am guaranteed to be able to compile the source code somewhat easily and flash it to the device. Anyone knows if they have made any promises around that?
  • nameless912 2y ago
    I can't see why this wouldn't be the case, the firmware will be open source and I have to imagine a developer mode will be part of that.
• j45 2y ago
  This watch might be enough reason to jump back to Android. It’s too bad third party watches are second class citizens in iOS.
• blorkusmelorkus 2y ago
  Core 2 Duo is an intel trademark https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/33910/intel-core2-duo-processor-e8400-6m-cache-3-00-ghz-1333-mhz-fsb/specifications.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/33910/i...
  • noname120 2y ago
    Intel® is a registered trademark, Core™ is an unregistered trademark, 2 Duo is nothing.
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• ftkftk 2y ago
  I miss my pebbles every day. Can't wait for december!!
• lostphilosopher 2y ago
  I was surprised at the time how cheap the original Pebbles were, they were nearly exactly what I wanted and I would have been willing to pay more for mine. In fact I ultimately paid more to replace mine with a watch I like less. When Pebble folded I wondered if having too low of price ultimately hurt them - if they didn't pick up enough customers to make up on volume what they left off the table on per-unit revenue? I hope the relaunch is successful, and I assume they have all manner of internal data that says I'm wrong, but my initial reaction to the listed prices is the same as it was to the originals - they seem too low. (I'm setting aside the caveat about a potential price change due to tariffs and assuming they launch at current list price.)
  • lolinder 2y ago
    > I'm setting aside the caveat about a potential price change due to tariffs and assuming they launch at current list price As you should, because if they raise the price because of tariffs they won't see a dime of it. It's less raising the price and more that they don't yet know how much tax they'll be expected to collect and remit.
  • jerlam 2y ago
    There's a big difference: it's 2025 and there are no shortage of competitors that look better and have more features than a $150 Pebble 2 or $225 Time 2. Unlike 2015 the market already has a $200 Apple Watch, $60 Amazfit Bip, $55 CMF Watch Pro, and a $220 Coros Pace which will track an ultramarathon. All these devices are made by mature companies and have multiple revisions. I liked my Pebbles, but I won't spend $300 on one because the chance of failure (again) is so great.
    • extraduder_ire 2y ago
      I would be amazed if there aren't comparable pebbleOS watches from a Chinese manufacturer for cheap(er) coming soon.
      • jerlam 2y ago
        I'm not sure why manufacturers would care - it's a ten year old device with limited appeal. Chinese manufacturers already make better, cheaper watches.
• cdurth 2y ago
  I might be missing something, but how do you specify color options for the Core Time 2?
  • jolmg 2y ago
    Was wondering the same thing. I found this: > 1. Can I choose a color for Core Time 2? Yes you can! Just not yet. We are finalizing all the color options and will contact everyone prior to shipping so you can choose which color best suits you! Just make sure your contact information is correct for your pre-order -- https://bsky.app/profile/repebble.com/post/3lkt2yfub7s2i https://bsky.app/profile/repebble.com/post/3lkt2yfub7s2i
• pizzaman500 2y ago
  I'm super excited to hear this announcement! For those of us interested in health metrics - can we expect the precision of the heart rate sensor to be sufficient for calculating HRV (heart rate variability)? It doesn't have to be natively supported, but I'd love to see a third party app offer this some day... In fact I may work on it myself, provided the data from HR sensor is good enough.
• QuantumNoodle 2y ago
  Eric, thank you. Lurking in the forum answering questions evokes people to share their opinion for satisfaction and dissatisfaction and often neglectes to evoke praise (proportionally). I am guilty of this too. So please have some well deserved praise for your work on this. We have gotten an open source wearable OS, purpose built hardware, R&D, a community, more pressure on Apple to be less of a gatekeeper, and something we can own in a crazy short timeframe. I hope you see this despite it being buried. Thank you, you glorious nerd.
  • chasemp 2y ago
    Hear, hear
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• zevon 2y ago
  Wow, those guys are moving fast. :-) I own and use a Pebble Time Steel and a Pebble Time as my only watches. I'm not really missing anything and I'm very happy with my old Pebbles - yet, I'm still quite tempted to pre-order a Core Time 2 to support development and out of curiosity. I'm looking forward to seeing how the touchscreen is implemented. Intuitively, I'd consider a touch-based interface almost an anti-feature on a Pebble, but given their software/UX quality, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.
• HumblyTossed 2y ago
  > Core 2 Duo Cringe... Why do people _do_ this? You should make it _easier_ to search for you product.
  • nosrepa 2y ago
    Tangentially, that reminded me of my days back when I frequented a forum for Rio digital audio players. When the company got sold off, an engineer leaked an unreleased firmware without the company's permission. We all had a laugh when the engineer decided to go by the name of "Nestle tollhouse".
• Zetaphor 2y ago
  As someone who was a huge fan of the original Pebble series, it's hard to get excited about this offering when compared to the alternatives available today with more features and a cheaper price. I'm currently wearing the BangleJS v2 [0] which has the following going for it, all for $90USD: * 1.3 inch 176x176 always-on 3 bit colour LCD display (LPM013M126) with backlight * Full touchscreen (6H hardness glass) * GPS/Glonass receiver * Heart rate monitor * 3 Axis Accelerometer * 3 Axis Magnetometer * Air Pressure/Temperature sensor * 175mAh battery, 4 week standby time * Full SWD debug port on rear of watch * The OS and every app are open source, all written in Javascript In my experience it lasts over 2 weeks with multiple daily notifications and wearing it 24/7 for HR and sleep tracking. The Pebble was a compelling offer when it came out, but I'll have to pass on this one. [0] https://shop.espruino.com/banglejs2 https://shop.espruino.com/banglejs2
  • NAHWheatCracker 2y ago
    > all written in Javascript Pass.
    • Zetaphor 2y ago
      All I care about is battery life and level of friction to creating an app. 2+ weeks and extremely low, so language purism is irrelevant imo
    • wizzzzzy 2y ago
      Why?
      • Zetaphor 2y ago
        Because dunking on Javascript is trendy
    • nosrepa 2y ago
      Pebble 's user created apps and watch faces are all JS.
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• Jordan-117 2y ago
  From your Reddit AMA you said there are no plans to make a more Time-style design since you prefer the original Pebble form factor. Is this just for now or is it a hard no to ever offering a different design? (I never got into the OG Pebble or Pebble 2 myself because it looks very clunky on my fairly thin wrist, but the Time was perfect)
• briandear 2y ago
  Pebble Day at HN?
• cunidev 2y ago
  This might be asking too much, but will there be any way to run the newer pebbleOS on the first-gen Pebbles? I love my Steel, and am currently still using it
• moron4hire 2y ago
  I know this is going to sound weird, but I'd really love a stylish smartwatch without any wireless comms of any kind on board. And I think a lot of people living in and around Arlington, VA would as well.
  • codepoet80 2y ago
    how would it be "smart" without some kind of way to get data from your phone (or other wireless data source)? are you imagining a wired tether and periodic sync, like Palm Pilots?
    • moron4hire 2y ago
      I guess technically I mean more of a fitness tracker watch. Having connectivity to my phone isn't important because I can't take my phone into the places I can't take my current smart watch. I have a Garmin Vivoactive 5 that I used to wear, but having to take it off before going to certain meetings got to be such a hassle that I just got myself a Casio 593 to just not have to worry about it. A nice bedside dock in which I could mount the watch and have it sync data at that point would round the whole thing out.
• fersarr 2y ago
  I want a smart watch where bluetooth and everything can be fully turned off. Can I do that with this one?
• tonymet 2y ago
  I had an OG pebble, it was a gift from a conference. An amazing product, more Apple than Apple in terms of making clear tradeoffs to provide real utility & design quality. Reading this press release I thought -- they perfectly read the minds of the target customer. Retaining the spirit of the product and exceeding expectations with polished improvements. Great job guys! I'm in
• aucisson_masque 2y ago
  i expected the price to be cheap, like the original pebble. it's trying to make a cheap product into a niche product with kind of premium price, 150$ and 225$ for a watch is already pretty high. The people who can afford it, they already got apple watch.
  • repeekad 2y ago
    Apple Watches start at $250 and up to over $1k, pebbleOS offers way more functionality and 10x battery life, they’re not overlapping audiences
    • sulam 2y ago
      Sorry but while I won’t argue the battery life angle, you really cannot say that the PebbleOS offers significantly more functionality than WatchOS. It just ain’t so.
    • noname120 2y ago
      Do Pebble watches have GPS, cellular, and almost medical-grade sleep analysis? Are they rated for 50m underwater?
    • dag11 2y ago
      I had an original Kickstarter Pebble, a Pebble Time, and am probably ordering this new Pebble, but I have to say you have it the other way around. Apple Watch has 10x the functionality in this comparison, but they're both delightful devices and I'm excited to have a Pebble back in my rotation!
  • DecentShoes 2y ago
    Apple Watch doesn't work on Android, and Android Wear watches are laggy garbage with stupid round screens. There are zero good options on the Android side, so something like Pebble\Core has value.
  • c22 2y ago
    The Pebble Time was $150 and the Time Steel was $250. That was also 10 years of inflation ago.
• walrus01 2y ago
  If the goal is to make a product impossible to google, "core 2 duo" is a pretty good choice, since it'll turn up 99.9999% results related to an obsolete Intel desktop PC CPU.
• schnatterer 2y ago
  Interesting as companion for a phone. Anyone know of a hackable or privacy friendly standalone watch that can be used to make calls (e.g. for children pre smartphone age)?
• TulliusCicero 2y ago
  > Core 2 Duo Well that's a name I've not heard in a long, long time...
• promiseofbeans 2y ago
  I'm curious that the $150 ones has a barometer and compass, while the $225 one doesn't in favour of a heart rate monitor. Given that they're specifically saying you shouldn't use it as a sports watch, what use is an HRM, especially when compared to the utility of a compass and barometer/altimeter?
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  • seltzered_ 2y ago
    Possibly SoC differences or space limitations. If I recall correctly, the original Pebble had a Compass (which may not have even been used until a OS overhaul later on) but the Pebble 2 SE didn't. (https://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/4kz7ch/why_pebble_is_cut_off_the_compass/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/4kz7ch/why_pebble_i...)
  • Spunkie 2y ago
    Yeah I just noticed that when going to preorder. It muddies what would otherwise an easy upsell/upgrade.
  • hombre_fatal 2y ago
    I think HRM is more useful than compass/barometer since HR is the only thing your phone can't do. The https://www.whoop.com/ https://www.whoop.com/, for example, doesn't even have GPS. All of its value comes from its HRM. Barometer is especially niche and not something very trustworthy outside of devices made for it. To the average person, compass is only useful for showing orientation on a map.
• r0fl 2y ago
  I bought my first Pebble watch the week it was released. Loved it! Got an Apple Watch and hated it. Got a few more Apple Watches and now the activity rings alone have me hooked. 800+ days in a row of closing my rings means I cannot switch away from apples tightly closed ecosystem :( I wish this came out years ago and I never got to experience the Apple Watch Good luck
• poisonborz 2y ago
  Any chance of wireless charging? I can't imagine it being so complicated or expensive... tho most smartwatches come with custom pins so there has to be a reason. Worst aspect of these watches are the custom charging cradles you have to lug around when travelling. Hell, even usb-c with some cap/sliding door mechanism would be better.
  • Groxx 2y ago
    While I really do like wireless charging for watches (no exposed electrical contacts == easier waterproofing and no corrosion to worry about, and the battery capacities are so low that slow charging barely matters): 2 and 4 pin magnetic charging cables are extremely common in smart watches, it's what pebble used before, and it sounds like what they're using for these as well. "Standard pebble charger" is listed in the tech-specs, which likely means the 2-pin version.
  • dTal 2y ago
    "Standard" wireless charging (Qi) requires a reciever 30x44mm, too big for a smartwatch. Custom wireless charging, like bluetooth earbuds, requires a custom charger. And we're back to the custom charging cradle. Might as well just put pins in it and call it a day. I do wish the pins were standardized though.
• evolve2k 2y ago
  Eric, I’m interested in what you learnt picking up a 10 year old open hardware project. I’m especially interested in the “revival” nature of this project. How did staying mostly true to the original vision guide you practically? You mentioned briefly that some apps may have stopped working as they attempt to hit now no existent url endpoints. Least of which is likely the old official pebble endpoints. Have you done any design work as a revival project such that the project will be more robust in future. Eg 50 years from now, if things didn’t pan out and your company is still here, such that the watches and their apps are all that bit more resilient? Curious as to your thoughts on designing in longevity of serviceability into this reboot given you can feel that yourself.
• Reason077 2y ago
  > "30 day battery life" I've done the math and according to my calculations that's approximately 30X more battery life than an Apple Watch. Impressive!
  • xahrepap 2y ago
    About 60 for me. I have to charge mine while working to get it to last a day :/
    • mulderc 2y ago
      I have had an Apple Watch since the original and never had it that bad. I think something is wrong with your watch.
      • jeffgreco 2y ago
        That's common for me after three or four years.
        • wlesieutre 2y ago
          I charged my S6 last night - it’s been running 22 hours - and it has 17% charge left. That’s at about 4.5 years old. I don’t run it at high screen brightness though.
          • SSLy 2y ago
            disable hours-in-sunlight, it's a battery gobbler.
            • LeifCarrotson 2y ago
              Switch to a MIPS transflective or e-paper display as on a Pebble or Garmin, OLED and LCD displays on Apple and Samsung watches look pretty indoors (when they're not turned off to save power) but are hard to read outside (without excessive brightness) and are battery gobblers. Just charged my Garmin Fenix for the first time in... 9 days (it was down at 18%, could get a few more days but it makes me nervous), most of the battery use went to some 11 hours of GPS activity recording and heart rate recording. Could get 30 days if I turned off the features the Pebble doesn't have.
• Larrikin 2y ago
  I am extremely ready to drop my FitBit since they do nothing but make the product worse. The only major watch brand with something small is Garmin with their extremely ugly vivo smart. But I am worried about compatibility. I assume it will be possible to connect into Home Assistant eventually, but would be nice to get confirmation on how open the platform plans to be in allowing me to get my own data. I also wonder if they will pursue partnerships. I feel safe sharing my walking data with my insurance company and can usually max out the rewards simply by getting my steps in on most days and doing normal annual things. Will Pebble work with them?
• spaceguillotine 2y ago
  Former Pebble and Pebble Time owner and these kinda feel, meh in 2025. The Pebble roadmap seemed like it had more potential back in the day with experimental bands that didn't really materialize. Hoping once they actually release and we find out if the targets are hit or not with battery life and water resistance. I just hope they don't release limited color cases again and not have any left for warranty support as happened with my Blue Pebble and all they could offer was a Black one.
• just-another-se 2y ago
  I couldn't agree more on how restricted popular smartwatches are. I'm working on a project to capture the maximum physiological and health data—such as heart rate (HR), heart rate variability (HRV), stress levels, and SpO2—from a smartwatch in the shortest possible interval. So far, the best I've achieved is once per minute. Could pebble support obtaining this data (particularly HRV) at even shorter intervals?
  • hombre_fatal 2y ago
    Pebble let developers request HR data at a max frequency of 1Hz, so I'm not sure how you could calculate HRV from it (Nyquist theorem). https://developer.rebble.io/developer.pebble.com/guides/events-and-services/hrm/index.html https://developer.rebble.io/developer.pebble.com/guides/even... I also tinker with health data from wearables. I've built some Whoop-like UIs for a couple cheapo wrist straps from Aliexpress, but their HR monitors are always so bad that they're useless outside of when you're sleeping.
• insane_dreamer 2y ago
  Woah! So excited that Core Time 2 includes a HR sensor (since HR is something I need for health reasons more than as a full-fledged fitness tracker). Any details on what sensor is used (PPG I presume?) and how reliable/accurate it is? Love the Pebble -- still have my first OG one in my drawer!
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• iamjake648 2y ago
  What is the sample rate on the barometer? If it’s sensitive enough, a compelling skydiving altimeter app could be developed. Considering most purpose built altis used worse screens and cost 350+, could be a quite compelling use case.
• Forgeties79 2y ago
  I am really not being overdramatic or hyperbolic when I say this watch sounds like the exact kind of smart device I want in my life. Just ordered the b&w one. Very excited
• nkg 2y ago
  Looks fun!
• gianpaj 2y ago
  Can you go running with your watch and earphones and listen to music without a phone?
• raaron773 2y ago
  Finally.. a hybrid amart watch, that also from Pebble! This is great, the only other hybrid smartwatch I have ever seen was from Fossil and that was quite a few years ago.
• zhyder 2y ago
  I'm super happy about the revival (I backed the first Pebble Kickstarter) and the bullet list of key features you're targeting would make my dream watch, but I hope you take this as constructive criticism that you're way off right now on this one: - Simple and beautiful design It's ugly, and the gap with the industrial design of today's watches is wider. I suggest contracting with a good industrial design firm to redesign the case: the case material, screen and internal electronics can remain the same.
  • lifeformed 2y ago
    I think it looks great. I don't want a sleek expensive looking piece of jewelry,I want something fun.
  • all2 2y ago
    I very much disagree. This design gives me old school Casio vibes, and I really, really like it. My father has worn an old model from Casio for decades, and I have a lot of nostalgia around it.
    • hombre_fatal 2y ago
      The shape of the Time 2 reminds me of the Casio calculator watch, which I love. Frankly I'd like it if they leaned even harder into hard edges, like octagons over curved bevels.
  • ponorin 2y ago
    it's unique, and it's not even that bad. you shouldn't compare this to the apple watches of the world when the screen itself could display 64 colours at best (monochrome at worst). the design language should line in perfectly with those from the pebble os. it's supposed to be quirky, not liking the looks of it just means you're not the target audience.
    • Shawnj2 2y ago
      It's not the worst but the original Pebble Time Steel looks better IMO. I understand why they used a simpler case design (They don't have the resources to make anything like the PTS) but I still like the PTS design more. Maybe someone will come out with a custom case or something idk
• oscord 2y ago
  If I get a job, I’ll buy one. How difficult is it to add a blood pressure sensor?
• dreadlordbone 2y ago
  this makes me depressed about american manufacturing
• OoTheNigerian 2y ago
  I bought 2. I understand this is a semi experiment and will not expect the warranty or certainty that an Apple will give. This is to support the possibility of making an alternative become viable. Question for Eric, is there a way to ensure charging works with USB? Please don't make us carry yet another cable. Thanks.
  • apparent 2y ago
    The month-long battery life ensures you won't have to carry another cable. From the 360° shot on the product page, these appeare to use a proprietary cable, like almost all other smartwatches.
    • ajolly 2y ago
      To be fair the Pebble "proprietary cable" is simply applying five volt voltage to the back of the watch. I'm definitely ended up on vacation without the cable and just cut the ends off a USB cable to charge my watch.
• vetrom 2y ago
  I miss having pebble watches, they hit a sweet spot of lifetime vs functionality. That said, what is this team going to do to avoid crashing and burning the way the original pebble did? Specifically I refer to the debacle around the pebble 2 variants and the 1st round pebble core that totally got the ball dropped on it.
  • apparent 2y ago
    They're keep the team super lean and apparently self-financed some of the early development. Last time they had some venture loans that apparently did them in.
• silverliver 2y ago
  Open source and hackable makes this a dream watch replacement for my old watch. Hopefully these new watches see great success, so much so that they motivates competition that is willing to sale in stores so that I can buy one.
• ivanb 2y ago
  My beautiful Pebble Time Steel died of salt water damage, the prior Pebble 2 SE got disintegrated by sunscreen. I have to take ruggedness into consideration.
• dlcarrier 2y ago
  Is there an Athlon XP version?
• simgt 2y ago
  I want a Pebble watch with cellular so I can use it like a Nokia 3310! In the mean time I'll dust off my yellowed Pebble Time.
• meta-level 2y ago
  Is there some definite information about what kind of "e-paper" is used for those? While I like reflective LCD more than backlit LCD/TFT a "real" e-paper (as in eInk) is far better readable in low light, so would be nice to know.. For e-paper feeling we still have the Watchy (with far less battery life and close to no available software admittedly)
  • daemonologist 2y ago
    The are both transflective (for sunlight readability) memory-in-pixel (for power efficiency) LCDs. The black & white one is the same display as was used in the Pebble 2, and the color one is most likely the display which was planned to be used in the Pebble Time 2 (mostly comparable to the Pebble Time display but larger). I agree that a true electrophoretic display is a lot nicer to look at; unfortunately the refresh rate leaves a lot to be desired in a highly interactive watch. Hopefully someday we get a technology with the best of both worlds.
• joejohnson 2y ago
  Not a great fitness tracker because it has no GPS Poor notification integration because of the restrictions on iOS explained in their blog post. If you want long battery life, I’d go for a Garmin. But the Apple Watch is really the best option for 90% of people.
  • zeroday28 2y ago
    Pebble is really cool. But would I pay $225 for a Core Time 2 when I could get a Garmin Forerunner 55? Probably not. But still, it's amazing that we are getting new Pebble watches.
  • _flux 2y ago
    90% of Apple users, you mean? Apple doesn't have 90% market share of the mobile market, as far as I know. Or is Apple Watch just that good on Android as well?
• 42772827 2y ago
  Now do the Pebble Core, with LTE service and hackable voice control and Spotify :)
• esel2k 2y ago
  Why was that frame choosen over the other ones? I fee PTR and PTS where by far the most modern looking and beautiful ones. Do you consider bringing that pebble 2 back with the same look? PS: Pebble owner and daily user since more than 5 years here
• FloatArtifact 2y ago
  Will the battery be user-replaceable?
• wilsonjholmes 2y ago
  Pre-ordered 2 different units; really excited for these to ship. Got a Pebble Time in highschool and it was so much fun to use and so polished. It was one of the first electronic devices to truely enamor me. I have worked with embedded syatems for the last ~3 years and I have been wondering lately just how no-one else has been able to since make a smartwatch with such good "taste" as the Pebbles... Happy to have a fresh device to live with! Thank you Eric!
  • jjice 2y ago
    I also had a Pebble Time in high school. That was an incredible watch. Beautiful, polished, functional, but still had a nerdy charm from the display. I miss it so much and this announcement is so exciting.
• phirschybar 2y ago
  this is awesome news. I loved the original pebble but moved to the apple watch after pebble's demise. I am curious what people here use their smart watches for on a daily basis and couldn't live without, other than to check the day/time. for me it's just message alerts, timer, and media controls. just those 3 features on a e-ink screen would make me super happy.
  • mcintyre1994 2y ago
    I moved from Apple Watch to Garmin, so I’m not in the market for something like a Pebble, I value the fitness features too much. But putting that aside, I’d say the essential features for me are notifications, timer, calendar, media controls.
• Max-q 2y ago
  One is named “Core 2 Duo”. I think that name is taken.
• lproven 2y ago
  This sounded to me like a device I might want, but the price is offputting to me. $150 is not cheap device. It's nearly 10x the used price of the smartwatch I wearing right now. The CEO did a Reddit AMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/1jea5cc/ama_with_eric_migicovsky_lets_talk_about_the_new/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/1jea5cc/ama_with_er... I am surprised by his comment there: « Honestly 5 years seems pretty good for a $150 consumer gadget. » So, its creator feels that a $150 watch is cheap. Huh. That is interesting. I never owned a Pebble, but I’ve had 3 smartwatches in the last 8 years: an original Amazfit Bip which I liked a lot. It lasted 5 years, its battery life was 6 weeks when new and 4 weeks when old, it was always-on and daylight-readable, and it was about $70. https://www.cnet.com/reviews/amazfit-bip-review/ https://www.cnet.com/reviews/amazfit-bip-review/ When it finally died, I replaced it with a Bip 5 last year. I didn’t like it – screen is wake-on-demand, it wasn’t sensitive enough to a wrist-flip to wake it so I had to press a button, and the battery life was down to 10 days. Higher-res screen, more colours, but no additional useful functionality to me. It cost about $80. https://www.amazfit.com/products/amazfit-bip-5 https://www.amazfit.com/products/amazfit-bip-5 So I sold it on for about $45, over half what I paid, and bought a used Amazfit Neo. It looks like a real watch, it was £15 used – about $20 – and it’s always-on, battery life in weeks, very visible, has a backlight, and does the essentials. https://www.gsmarena.com/amazfit_neo_review-news-45962.php https://www.gsmarena.com/amazfit_neo_review-news-45962.php So I’ve had three watches now and the total price of all 3 put together is about what Eric here dismisses as a consumer gadget. Huh. That is a potential Ratner’s moment right there. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/ratner-losses-mean-closure-of-330-shops-1541709.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/ratner-losses-me...
  • sundarurfriend 2y ago
    I felt the same way, but this thread seems to be full of people primed by Apple Watch pricing. Not sure how much that will translate to purchases in the end though, in my experience these folks are likely to leave a glowing comment and then just stick to their Apple Watches. As someone who just wanted a low-frills smartwatch and was following repebble for that, I'm disappointed and have unsubscribed from their update emails. This thread at least pointed me towards a bunch of other good options though, so it got me there in the end.
• fennecfoxy 2y ago
  I was worried about it using an "e-paper" display considering the originals used Sharp MiP LCDs, however from that demo video the refresh rate is insane! I guess I haven't looked at e-paper modules in a wee while!
• Liron 2y ago
  The "Do you want a Pebble?" "No" button is hilarious
• noelrock 2y ago
  Just a brief note to say: loved original Pebble, always a regret that my younger poorer self didn't buy one way back when, so bit the bullet straight away yesterday and am signed up for the first batch of the black Core 2 Duo in July. Two features which I think it would be useful to give more prominence to especially as you move from pre-order stage to general sale stage: Strap is replaceable in both models Both models count steps Would be high priority things for me! Look forward to seeing how this develops and best of luck.
• nelblu 2y ago
  A newbie to smartwatches question : How are RePebbleOS watches when it comes to privacy? Do they offer complete offline, manual data download/sync experience or do they require some type of Google or Apple crapware to work? I am mainly considering buying one to track my heart rate, but I don't want my data to leave my watch unless I copy it myself. Any budget friendly recommendations?
  • kmacdough 2y ago
    Vague question, as privacy means different things to different people, but its very hackable, so as long as you're running Android you should be able to make it work how you want. By default it uses the Pebble App for sync. You can decide whether that meets your privacy needs or you want a custom app. Someone has probably shared how to do what you want. See the other trending HN post for Apple compatibility (TL;DR it sucks because Apple makes it suck).
    • nelblu 2y ago
      Thanks. Sorry if it was vague. Basically my first preference would be to not have any need to connect to a mobile phone (so no android or apple). And if that is not possible it is preferable to connect via de-googled Android. I guess I need to find out whether Pebble App sync works on GrapheneOS, and whether Pebble App sync requires internet/data permission - just trying to make sure the data doesn't leave my phone.
      • ajolly 2y ago
        You need a mobile phone since they don't have internet access directly. After that you should be totally fine, what are you hoping for your smartwatch to do? I primarily use my pebble for notifications from my phone to show up on my watch which doesn't require any sort of external access.
        • nelblu 2y ago
          I need it to track my heart rate. I am actually also looking forward to something that can track my blood-pressure, but I am not sure whether the technology is there yet. A device that can do offline tracking would be ideal, ability to sync with a USB cable would be icing on the cake.
• pidgeon_lover 2y ago
  Can you use the new Pebble watches without an accompanying smartphone application? I've wanted to get a smartwatch, but have always been put off by the requirement of a stupid app to synchronise data with a recent smartphone to be able to use it. They have all the necessary hardware to record and process data on board... don't see why it should require an expensive Apple or Android every few years to keep using. My Timex from 2011 cost £35 and still works perfectly.
• knowald 2y ago
  As one of the watch enthusiasts with a collection of several dozen straps, it's refreshing to see the watches including quick-release straps right out of the box. That makes quick-swapping to our NATO straps easy peasy! There's something genuinely heartwarming about seeing Eric Migicovsky remain true to his vision, finally delivering the product I dreamed of but couldn't afford a decade ago, after all.
• Suppafly 2y ago
  What's with all the recent posts about Pebble OS and Pebble watches? Seems like there have been several in the last couple of days. Definitely doesn't feel organic.
  • mattl 2y ago
    Google released PebbleOS as open source in January and one of the Pebble founders started an effort to produce a pair of watches using the open source software. This is his website.
• dzhiurgis 2y ago
  Are there headphones that can track same vitals (movement, heart rate and sleep)? I can’t stand wearing watches and adding another fucking screen to keep track of is bonkers in 2025. It’s kinda crazy apple haven’t added tracking in airpods yet - there are at least 2x more airpods sold.
• dewcifer 2y ago
  Am I just out of my mind for feeling like I should wait a few months for a cheaper hardware equivalent to drop without an OS that will run Pebble? I guess $100 average profit is "normal" in terms of production, marketing, r&d and all of that.. but this is just an old watch that someone is selling again since the OS was open sourced. The profit is just all profit.. I can't imagine a non-US manufacturer won't just start cranking out devices people can flash with a better OS.
• tucosan 2y ago
  I love it. I loved my pebbles. The only thing that always annoyed me was the design. My dream is that pebble eventually becomes a beautiful time piece. Maybe teenage engineering could be convinced to give the pebble a design refresh.
• createaccount99 2y ago
  it doesn't have bluetooth but has speaker/mic? Am I getting that right?
• charlson 2y ago
  Testing