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Brown Medicine professor and doctor deported to Lebanon despite valid visa
- rzzzwilson 2y agoThe apparent lack of any major uproar in the USA is worrying. First they came for the immigrants, and I did not speak out - because I was not an immigrant. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came
- Paul-Craft 2y agoThe fact that this submission was flagged until I vouched for it is also worrisome.
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- MegaButts 2y agoThe majority of political posts, especially those that make it to the front page, are very quickly flagged. It feels much worse lately which makes sense considering the political climate in the US.
- Paul-Craft 2y ago> It feels much worse lately which makes sense considering the political climate in the US. This is the part that concerns me.
- MegaButts 2y agoI'm deeply concerned about it too, but the moderation on this website is pretty hostile towards politics. Only expect major political news (and the debate seems to be what qualifies as major) to be tolerated.
- edwardjlsh 2y agoI think in general this site avoids political news unless it's directly related to tech. While I agree the US politics is mad right now, it doesn't "gratify one's intellectual curiosity". > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
- curiousgal 2y agoAn H1B Worker getting deported seems preeeetty relevant to tech for me. Unless we think Tech workers themselves are somehow superior to medicine professors and this could never ever happen to them.
- Paul-Craft 2y agoNot related to tech? Excuse me? I'm assuming you're aware of how many immigrants work in the tech industry, right? Two jobs go, I was on a team of 10 where only 2 of us were actual, natural born Americans. Not every team at the company was like that, but, still, there was definitely a large percentage of non-Americans in the engineering and product org, at least.
- edwardjlsh 2y agoWhat's intellectually stimulating about a professor being deported? I'm not denying it's an issue, it needs to be voiced somewhere, but is a tech forum the place? The rules: > If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
- kccoder 2y agoAn asteroid hitting the earth would be on the news, should we not cover that here? How about the administration gunning down explicitly non-tech workers? How about the moon turning into cheese? The word "probably" is probably being ignored. It is a novel situation (which is also referenced in the rules) that the government is ignoring court orders, multiple court orders, and it is going to effect the vast majority of people on this forum, eventually.
- master_crab 2y agoShe’s an H1B holder. That is very much of importance to the tech industry (at least in the US)
- jisnsm 2y agoYeah - just wait until they start deporting actual Americans to Lebanon!
- Paul-Craft 2y agoYou may be joking, but ICE is already detaining naturalized US citizens: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-citizen-hispanic-detained-ice-questions-vote-trump-rcna195406 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-citizen-hispanic-deta...
- jisnsm 2y agoThat article is more outrage porn than anything else.
- Paul-Craft 2y agoThat doesn't sound like a denial that it's actually happening.
- jisnsm 2y agoIf you can’t see the difference between deporting someone and stopping them to see if they are the person to be deported what can I tell you.
- kcplate 2y agoIf you are traffic stopped by a law enforcement officer for any reason you are “detained”. So in that sense US citizens are detained all the time. Nothing new here about that. They apparently detained him because someone missed a court appearance who has used his address. That might be a more aggressive application of investigation than the prior administration’s policy for handling people that miss their immigration court cases, but it’s not inappropriate for a LEO to show up at your door if you miss a court case in general regardless of your immigration status. “Machado said he was uncuffed and immediately released after showing his driver’s license.” Seems like they treated him appropriately as soon as they verified his identity.
- noobermin 2y agoThere are protests actually from looking at twitter. It's just that it doesn't make the news. It's hard to tell, it doesn't look as massive as say the women's march.
- fzeroracer 2y agoGiven the ideological bent of people in favor of these actions, they will bend over backwards to invent a justification that makes this acceptable. CBP and ICE are both feeling fully empowered enough that they can just ignore court orders and not bother following the rule of law which should be considered a critical problem (especially by the people that were supposed to be 'I need guns to protect myself from the government' types) but I think it's increasingly clear the double think on brazen display.
- apexalpha 2y ago'Silence is complicity' as the Americans like to point out.
- yusaythat 2y agoWhy water down what they actually say? They say "silence is violence", and they ALSO say that speech is violence!
- jmclnx 2y agoYes, and he was 100% legal. Only proves recism is alive and well in the US
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- edwardjlsh 2y ago> There are hundreds of cases of people having issues with their paperwork when coming back in the US The article suggests they have all their documentation and, after being detained, a court said they must not be deported but was deported (against the courts orders) anyway. Do you have some sources that suggest it was due to paperwork issues?
- Paul-Craft 2y agoThe headline literally says she had a valid visa. Unless you know otherwise, we should probably assume that's true.
- piombisallow 2y agoA valid visa (or even a green card) does not guarantee entry in the US.
- fzeroracer 2y agoDo you have an actual point? The court and judge called it a deportation, ordered CBP to not go through with the deportation unless given valid notice in order to gather facts on the case and they went forward with said deportation anyways. The country has laws for a reason.
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- defrost 2y agoSee earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43384730 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43384730 Brown University Professor Is Deported Despite a Judge's Order (nytimes.com) 82 points | 4 hours ago | 36 comments
- p3rls 2y agoI had a Lebanese friend in medical school in the states and his racist rants about how he was considered white for his MCAT scores would make Goebbels blush so it's amusing how brown is used here. The good news is he eventually got into a school in the Caribbean and today is practicing medicine in New Brunswick, New Jersey. Good luck everyone.
- lma21 2y agoWhy is this flagged?
- Chinjut 2y agoIt implicitly paints the administration, and thus Elon Musk, and thus Silicon Valley bigwigs, in a bad light. Very many of the users of this site will flag anything which does so, under the guise of politics being not of interest to hackers, even as many other users of this site express interest in such conversations. (Even for me to honestly mention this phenomenon is technically against the rules, though.)
- edwardjlsh 2y agoIt's (arguably) against site rules. It doesn't gratify ones intellectual curiosity and is something they'd cover on the news. There's a large uptick in political content this year, and I agree US news is crazy right now, but this site requires posting discipline or it'll become no different to a subreddit. > On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
- instagib 2y ago“she was detained by Customs and Border Protection officers and held at the airport for 36 hours, for reasons that are unclear.” Since both articles here and NyTimes are only posting the positive things about the professor, I’ll throw in a possibility. They scanned the professors phone, didn’t like what they saw, and end of story.
- mcphage 2y ago> They scanned the professors phone, didn’t like what they saw, and end of story. Is there any evidence of that? And what sort of things could they not like, that would be sufficient for this action?
- nkurz 2y agoThe NYT is now reporting that she was deported because she had attended the funeral for the former Hezbollah leader: The Department of Homeland Security said on Monday that it had deported a Brown University professor and doctor with a valid visa because they said she attended a Hezbollah leader’s funeral in February during a trip to Lebanon. When questioned by Customs and Border Protection officers upon her return to the United States, Dr. Rasha Alawieh, who is Lebanese, “openly admitted” her support for the leader, Hassan Nasrallah, according to a Homeland Security spokeswoman. Dr. Alawieh was detained at Boston Logan International Airport on Thursday. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/17/us/rasha-alawieh-brown-university-doctor-deported-hezbollah.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/17/us/rasha-alawieh-brown-un... (https://archive.is/fraB8 https://archive.is/fraB8) The article goes on to say that the Department did not say why they thought she had attended this funeral, but seeing it on her phone does seem like an obvious possibility. This is of course independent of the question of whether this should be sufficient to deny re-entry.
- nkurz 2y agoThis article has a lot more detail: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/17/rasha-alawieh-deportation-026038 https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/17/rasha-alawieh-depor...