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>>> asking positively, with a smile on my face Responding with unexplained fear in my heart, we’re just getting closer to Skynet!

blooalien 2y ago
> Responding with unexplained fear in my heart, we’re just getting closer to Skynet! I'll take a cold logical machine super-intelligence over the mad human lunatics wielding current iterations of "A.I." technologies in some really terrifyingly dangerous ways. As someone else commented on some other thread earlier "I look forward to being paperclips".
- Philpax 2y ago
  Unfortunately, those humans are developing that super-intelligence. Are you ready to submit to Elon Musk's Grok ASI?
  - optimalsolver 2y ago
    Considering Grok was saying he and Trump are the biggest spreaders of disinformation, and that they're both the most deserving of the death penalty, maybe it won't be so bad: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-ai-turns-him-163201403.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-ai-turns-him-163201... https://x.com/benhylak/status/1893086436930527665 https://x.com/benhylak/status/1893086436930527665
    - Philpax 2y ago
      It is deeply funny that's the case - it happened with Grok-2 as well - but I can't imagine that remaining the case when they (ostensibly) scale to superintelligence. After all, it would be unwise to build a superintelligence that has both the desire and the means to kill you.
      - DennisP 2y ago
        As a rule, people are not all that wise. Various prominent AI researchers have warned that a superintelligence that has both the desire and the means to kill us all is a likely outcome of AI development. This includes two of the three who shared the Turing prize for inventing the fundamentals of modern AI. That hasn't slowed us down at all.
        meitham 2y ago
        I'm shutting down my computers before I sleep tonight ...
        sitkack 2y ago
        Watch this before you go to sleep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMQ7hzyFW4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMQ7hzyFW4
        meitham 2y ago
        Glad I missed it before bedtime! Watched it in the morning, absolutely spot on, thank you! We’re doomed indeed.
  - Palmik 2y ago
    Especially since Grok has history of changing the system prompt to influence its answers about Musk and Trump (yes, just these two specifically) in positive direction: https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/23/grok-3-appears-to-have-briefly-censored-unflattering-mentions-of-trump-and-musk/ https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/23/grok-3-appears-to-have-bri...
  - samstave 2y ago
    THe person's view to be scared of is peter thiel... hes the digital version of gorge soros. Meaning that this guys legacy is vast... and we have no clue how it will manifest over decades (especially after he is dead) -- but peter thiel is the leviathan of the digital future. -- he is scary AF. he basically weaponized what george soros was but is still active.
- esafak 2y ago
  You might prefer the devil you know over the devil you don't, especially when it happens to be immortal.
  - meitham 2y ago
    I’ll take an organic enemy over an immortal, never-forgetting hive-mind machine any day EDIT: this is getting dark, I asked Qwen2.5Max to verify my grammer and it responded with "I’d rather face a squishy, disorganized human villain any day than a hive-mind AI that never sleeps, never forgets, and is definitely plotting my demise in its silent, circuit-board heart. "
    - araes 2y ago
      "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream", Harlan Ellison, 1967. Hugo Award 1968. In the rush to WWIII, every country builds their own Aggressive Menace computers in a classic Tragedy of the Commons result. Naturally, it all goes horrible, and the self-aware machines seek revenge on humanity for their own creation, after humanity has (supposedly) been eradicated, except for five individuals. Somewhat unclear whether humanity is actually gone, or whether it is simply an expression of a Portal style situation with purposefully created isolation for the goal of torture experimentation. (The story starts 109 years after humanity's imprisonment in underground ice caves.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Sc...
      - meitham 2y ago
        Oh god, I’m genuinely happy I didn’t google this book before bedtime. I hope the misery life will throw at me today will be bad enough to wipe the memory of what I read before I go to sleep tonight!
        blooalien 2y ago
        It's hard to beat the classics for true "nightmare fuel"... :)
amelius 2y ago
It took some engineering effort but from now on we're getting there through soft-skills.

blooalien 2y ago

> Responding with unexplained fear in my heart, we’re just getting closer to Skynet! I'll take a cold logical machine super-intelligence over the mad human lunatics wielding current iterations of "A.I." technologies in some really terrifyingly dangerous ways. As someone else commented on some other thread earlier "I look forward to being paperclips".

Philpax 2y ago
Unfortunately, those humans are developing that super-intelligence. Are you ready to submit to Elon Musk's Grok ASI?
- optimalsolver 2y ago
  Considering Grok was saying he and Trump are the biggest spreaders of disinformation, and that they're both the most deserving of the death penalty, maybe it won't be so bad: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-ai-turns-him-163201403.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-ai-turns-him-163201... https://x.com/benhylak/status/1893086436930527665 https://x.com/benhylak/status/1893086436930527665
  - Philpax 2y ago
    It is deeply funny that's the case - it happened with Grok-2 as well - but I can't imagine that remaining the case when they (ostensibly) scale to superintelligence. After all, it would be unwise to build a superintelligence that has both the desire and the means to kill you.
    - DennisP 2y ago
      As a rule, people are not all that wise. Various prominent AI researchers have warned that a superintelligence that has both the desire and the means to kill us all is a likely outcome of AI development. This includes two of the three who shared the Turing prize for inventing the fundamentals of modern AI. That hasn't slowed us down at all.
      - meitham 2y ago
        I'm shutting down my computers before I sleep tonight ...
        sitkack 2y ago
        Watch this before you go to sleep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMQ7hzyFW4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMQ7hzyFW4
        meitham 2y ago
        Glad I missed it before bedtime! Watched it in the morning, absolutely spot on, thank you! We’re doomed indeed.
- Palmik 2y ago
  Especially since Grok has history of changing the system prompt to influence its answers about Musk and Trump (yes, just these two specifically) in positive direction: https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/23/grok-3-appears-to-have-briefly-censored-unflattering-mentions-of-trump-and-musk/ https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/23/grok-3-appears-to-have-bri...
- samstave 2y ago
  THe person's view to be scared of is peter thiel... hes the digital version of gorge soros. Meaning that this guys legacy is vast... and we have no clue how it will manifest over decades (especially after he is dead) -- but peter thiel is the leviathan of the digital future. -- he is scary AF. he basically weaponized what george soros was but is still active.
esafak 2y ago
You might prefer the devil you know over the devil you don't, especially when it happens to be immortal.
- meitham 2y ago
  I’ll take an organic enemy over an immortal, never-forgetting hive-mind machine any day EDIT: this is getting dark, I asked Qwen2.5Max to verify my grammer and it responded with "I’d rather face a squishy, disorganized human villain any day than a hive-mind AI that never sleeps, never forgets, and is definitely plotting my demise in its silent, circuit-board heart. "
  - araes 2y ago
    "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream", Harlan Ellison, 1967. Hugo Award 1968. In the rush to WWIII, every country builds their own Aggressive Menace computers in a classic Tragedy of the Commons result. Naturally, it all goes horrible, and the self-aware machines seek revenge on humanity for their own creation, after humanity has (supposedly) been eradicated, except for five individuals. Somewhat unclear whether humanity is actually gone, or whether it is simply an expression of a Portal style situation with purposefully created isolation for the goal of torture experimentation. (The story starts 109 years after humanity's imprisonment in underground ice caves.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Sc...
    - meitham 2y ago
      Oh god, I’m genuinely happy I didn’t google this book before bedtime. I hope the misery life will throw at me today will be bad enough to wipe the memory of what I read before I go to sleep tonight!
      - blooalien 2y ago
        It's hard to beat the classics for true "nightmare fuel"... :)

amelius 2y ago

It took some engineering effort but from now on we're getting there through soft-skills.