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The way to square this is to realize that the stated goals are not the real goals. USDS and 18F were doing the work that DOGE purports to want to do. Less than

The way to square this is to realize that the stated goals are not the real goals. USDS and 18F were doing the work that DOGE purports to want to do. Less than 2 months into the administration, they have been gutted and terminated, respectively.

dagelf 2y ago
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- frostburg 2y ago
  Did they have unfettered power? This is obviously a non sequitur.
- kristjansson 2y ago
  "I've pinned the gas and feathered the brakes but I'm not slowing down. Clearly my brakes are broken" Also US national debt is literally on live billboards, get your numbers right if you're going to be a troll.
pton_xd 2y ago
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- api 2y ago
  That's mostly from benefits, defense, unfunded tax cuts, and entitlements, not the type of spending DOGE claims to be addressing. Go look at a broad summary of Federal spending categories, then look at the history of the deficit under the last four or five Presidential administrations. DOGE is about conducting an ideological party purge of the government bureaucracy. Overall I predict it will cost money, since it'll cause a lot of things to break and/or be replaced by more expensive contractors.
- exe34 2y ago
  sounds like something for Congress to work through isn't it?
- ronbenton 2y ago
  They both brought in great private industry talent to make digital services better. 18F in particular did this in a cost-recoverable way. So killing 18F saves literally $0
- dekhn 2y ago
  USDS and 18F took people with experience in industry who were also politically savvy, and placed them where they could help the existing government and their contractors (which has grown absolutely terrible at building things) cut costs while increasing service. DOGE will do worse, in service of bringing about the oligarchy.
- youngtaff 2y ago
  US deficit is mostly from unfunded tax cuts of the type Trump and your boy Elon love
- loktarogar 2y ago
  Federal worker salaries make up around 4% of the entire federal budget. On your stated figures, if you eliminated the entire government workforce, you would only be saving around 40 billion every 3 months. You would still be spending 960 billion. And you wouldn't have a functioning government.

dagelf 2y ago

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frostburg 2y ago
Did they have unfettered power? This is obviously a non sequitur.
kristjansson 2y ago
"I've pinned the gas and feathered the brakes but I'm not slowing down. Clearly my brakes are broken" Also US national debt is literally on live billboards, get your numbers right if you're going to be a troll.

pton_xd 2y ago

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api 2y ago
That's mostly from benefits, defense, unfunded tax cuts, and entitlements, not the type of spending DOGE claims to be addressing. Go look at a broad summary of Federal spending categories, then look at the history of the deficit under the last four or five Presidential administrations. DOGE is about conducting an ideological party purge of the government bureaucracy. Overall I predict it will cost money, since it'll cause a lot of things to break and/or be replaced by more expensive contractors.
exe34 2y ago
sounds like something for Congress to work through isn't it?
ronbenton 2y ago
They both brought in great private industry talent to make digital services better. 18F in particular did this in a cost-recoverable way. So killing 18F saves literally $0
dekhn 2y ago
USDS and 18F took people with experience in industry who were also politically savvy, and placed them where they could help the existing government and their contractors (which has grown absolutely terrible at building things) cut costs while increasing service. DOGE will do worse, in service of bringing about the oligarchy.
youngtaff 2y ago
US deficit is mostly from unfunded tax cuts of the type Trump and your boy Elon love
loktarogar 2y ago
Federal worker salaries make up around 4% of the entire federal budget. On your stated figures, if you eliminated the entire government workforce, you would only be saving around 40 billion every 3 months. You would still be spending 960 billion. And you wouldn't have a functioning government.