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More than 20 Musk staffers resign over DOGE's 'dismantling of public services'
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- beretguy 2y agohttps://archive.ph/es38j https://archive.ph/es38j
- monetus 2y agoOur government is starting to have a bit of a 1970's Cambodia feel to its anti-intelligentsia.
- lnwlebjel 2y agowhere and how does one acquire the '1970's Cambodia feel' without having actually been there?
- clipsy 2y agoIf only there was some way to learn about things without experiencing them first hand. Alas!
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- throw0101d 2y ago> Our government is starting to have a bit of a 1970's Cambodia feel to its anti-intelligentsia. Anti-intellectualism has a long history in the US: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism_in_American_Life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism_in_Americ... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism#In_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism#In_the_Un...
- jqpabc123 2y agoWho will be hurt the most by this? Not rich billionaires like Musk. The answer is the working class folks who voted for Trump? The same answer applies to who will be hurt the most by tariffs. Amazingly, lots of ordinary folks were hoodwinked into giving rich billionaires more control --- over themselves and their lives. Stupid is as stupid does.
- creer 2y agoHow is resigning a way to serve that oath?
- insane_dreamer 2y agoBecause what you're being asked to do is in contravention of that oath, therefore the only way to serve the oath is to resign.
- pvg 2y agoThey don't take an oath to the job.
- creer 2y agoSee TFA? “We swore to serve the American people and uphold our oath to the constitution across presidential administrations,” the 21 staffers wrote in a joint resignation letter, a copy of which was obtained by the Associated Press. “However, it has become clear that we can no longer honor those commitments.”
- pvg 2y agoI still don't understand the question. Resignation because you don't feel you are able to fulfill the commitments of your job is a pretty standard way to publicly resign from some public service position in protest? There's probably a couple of hundred of years worth of examples.
- dekhn 2y agoDon't feed the trolls. You're arguing with somebody who is being obtuse.
- creer 2y agoResigning in protest has been common over the years. Of course (like reading the TFA?). I don't see it being effective besides bringing attention to the problem. In this case, it's not like there isn't enough attention. There's already plenty of attention. During the first Trump round, there seemed to be an effort to resist and obstruct from the inside. In some cases pretty effective. That also seems to be something Trump is trying to fight this time around. He noticed. Still an option. A third method would be to remain in place, mitigate as possible, but mostly maintain the knowledge and experience in place to rebuild things at the next opportunity. I'm sure more ways can be dug out from history too. So, yeah, there are options.
- VieEnCode 2y agoUnfortunately, they will be replaced with those sympathetic to the nerd reich takeover and thus ultimately reduce friction and for those in charge looking to wield the wrecking ball. It feels like half the goal of DOGE and similar measures is to purge those with a conscience and loyalty to public service and replace them with those willing to do almost anything asked of them.
- ofcourseyoudo 2y agoI think the idea is that they are some of the ones that know where all the procedures (and skeletons) are buried, so the DOGEkids will be slowed down because they'll be trying to examine and audit systems they don't understand.
- black_puppydog 2y agoI agree that's probably the rationale, I am just afraid the Dogekids won't let a lack of understanding slow them down.
- sillywalk 2y agoThe headline seems kind of misleading. It looks like they weren't "Musk staffers", they were employees who worked at the US Digital Service.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoThey are Musk staffers now since the USDS was rebranded DOGE, making existing USDS employees DOGE employees.
- dekhn 2y agoHowever, Musk doesn't actually lead DOGE, or work in DOGE, he's a special advisor to the president, so they're not really even his staffers.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoHe's the one giving the orders, so yeah, they're his staffers. In Trump's own words, Elon is running DOGE. Also the WH is unable to say who is actually in charge of DOGE and giving the orders if not Musk.
- bathtub365 2y agoYes and this is just obvious legal maneuvering to avoid accountability
- dekhn 2y agoAmy Gleason is in charge of DOGE.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoLOL
- linuxftw 2y agoHighly misleading article and reporting. These were apparently hold overs from USDS, not DOGE hires. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/21-doge-staffers-resign-saying-refuse-compromise-core-government-syste-rcna193622 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/21-doge-staffers-resig...
- insane_dreamer 2y agoIt's not misleading. The article states they were originally USDS employees. Nonetheless when DOGE came into being, it became the USDS and changed its name, therefore all those USDS employees are DOGE employees and are resigning from DOGE not the USDS (which no longer exists). So the article is correct.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoThe misleading detail on the holdovers, the lack of acknowledgment that these people are just not doing their job, the lack of context on how big or small 21 is - all of it is intentional. The outlets that run these stories, like the guardian, and the people who work at them, have a bias.
- mnewme 2y agoCome on. That is ridiculous. Read the original letter, nothing biased about the article, just facts.
- hedayet 2y agoThis is a refreshing break from the usual 'Replacement Excuse' in tech—'If I don’t do it, someone else will, so I might as well profit from it.'
- gniv 2y agoHere's the actual letter: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25544180-usds-resignation-letter/ https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25544180-usds-resign...