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Here we go again with Tesla cultist trying to change what the word "recall" means.
by avgDev 2y ago
Here we go again with Tesla cultist trying to change what the word "recall" means.
- niceice 2y agoDoes that mean the people defending the misuse of the word "recall" are regulation cultists?
- eagerpace 2y ago[flagged]
- Mekoloto 2y agoShouldn't a recall imply that this software update is so critical that a real danger was possible?
- freejazz 2y agoI don't think they are ignoring anything. One of those amazing things is cars. This is what it's called when the gov't mandates a software update for cars because of a safety issue... I'm not sure why that's controversial
- bumby 2y agoThis needs a broader context. On some fronts, software is amazing from a reliability perspective. It doesn’t wear out and can be updated easier. On the other hand, it creates new failure modes and interaction effects that are much harder to define, test, and mitigate thoroughly. Anyone who pretends software is wholly good or bad is probably wrong.
- avgDev 2y agoWho said I am ignoring all the great things software does? What is this comment even. A recall is a recall. Every time Tesla has one these recalls apologist come out and try to change what the word means. It is a RECALL. It isn't a big deal.
- eagerpace 2y agoFair. I don't think it needs a recall if it doesn't change the way the car operates. Perhaps there is a new class of change notification between "release notes" and "recall" that needs to be established.
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- _DeadFred_ 2y ago'I don't trust those with the knowledge, expertise, and experience in the industry that created the system' is a heck of a take after your 'pro progress' previous post.
- bpodgursky 2y agoAs a Tesla owner it is relevant to me whether I have to drive to a service center, or ignore it and do nothing.
- avgDev 2y agoThe recall will clearly state what the remedy is? It is there because whatever the issue is it can potentially affect safety. In this case a power steering issue is A SAFETY issue. Therefore, a RECALL is issued. Why is this so hard to comprehend?
- saalweachter 2y agoMy vague understanding is that it also exists because the NHTSA notices a problem and demands the manufacturer to fix it. Which is to say, my understanding is that if Tesla had noticed the issue first, and fixed it immediately, then no recall would have been issued. And since it's an OTA update that Tesla can push whenever, it was totally within Tesla's power to fix it before someone at the NHTSA went through the trouble of issuing a recall. Tesla owners should be pissed at Tesla for outsourcing software Q&A to the NHTSA, not at the NHTSA for issuing recalls when it finds bugs.
- caconym_ 2y agoAnd as a person who trusts mass market automobiles with my own safety and that of my family I could not care less if Tesla owners experience some kind of weird insecurity (?) when their OTA updates are described using a term of art with a specific contextual meaning, whose existence arguably makes us all safer. Software issues with automobiles are just as capable of injuring or killing people as mechanical issues, so regardless of the remedy, they should be treated with equal severity from a regulatory perspective. We do not need a new word for OTA recalls just to safeguard the feelings of Tesla owners and others who benefit from their convenience.
- bpodgursky 2y agoIt's quite literally not recalling anything. Think about what the word actually means.