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Every .gov Domain

336 points by KoftaBob 2y ago

edent 2y ago
The equivalent for the UK is https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/list-of-gov-uk-domain-names https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/list-of-gov-uk-do... (I helped open that up when I was there.)
- numinix 2y ago
  The parish council websites seem to have a lot of freedom to run their own standards. Lots of WP and shall we say 'nostalgic' web design!
  - ChrisRR 2y ago
    Given how many parish councils are just a bunch of biddies, be thankful they even have websites.
    - croisillon 2y ago
      TIL a new word!
    - markx2 2y ago
      Having served on a parish council there can certainly be a technology challenge for some. There are services which will do the work - https://cuttlefish.com/local-councils/ https://cuttlefish.com/local-councils/ - https://www.parishcouncil.net https://www.parishcouncil.net - are two of many. These have their drawbacks, may not provide exportable data so locking the council in. Some will allow direct access, some require that any new content be sent to them and they upload it. Some councils will own their domain name, some will not. Then there is the email issue and many will use a gmail / hotmail address. Cost, especially these days, is also a factor. I don't see it as a bad thing to have so much variety though.
    - jonathantf2 2y ago
      Our local parish council don't have SPF, DKIM or DMARC set up so every single meeting is just a back and forth of "well I didn't receive that e-mail"
      - ChrisRR 2y ago
        Our local parish spent literally years arguing about removing a dog poo bin from a park
        biofox 2y ago
        Critical infrastructure projects require proper due diligence.
        PhilipRoman 2y ago
        something something Chesterton's fence
        ianmcgowan 2y ago
        Let's hope they don't want to paint the bike shed!
  - rsynnott 2y ago
    There are over 10,000 of them, many absolutely tiny.
  - toyg 2y ago
    One thing that British local government definitely is NOT, is consistent. 500 years of continuous monarchic rule means the backbone of the State is a rickety Rube Goldberg machine, riddled with absurdities and obsolete entities that change every few miles. What you mention is the tip of an iceberg as big as Greenland, where every other town or region is administered in fundamentally different ways for no particularly good reason beyond "that's how it's always been". For all their centralist instincts, the Westminster classes fundamentally don't care about how the provinces go about their business, as long as they keep paying into London and act adequately subservient whenever the Southern classes come knocking. So we have to live with constitutional aberrations like Cornwall and Lancaster.
chirau 2y ago
How do you guys go about doing this? Is there some techy/reverse engineering way or you manually asking each department which domains they have?
- TechRemarker 2y ago
  Did you open the link? The the very top says Data Source: https://manage.get.gov/api/v1/get-report/current-full https://manage.get.gov/api/v1/get-report/current-full. Public API provides them all, this is just a website to more easily view that data.
- rayhaanj 2y ago
  You can download a list from here too: https://github.com/cisagov/dotgov-data/blob/main/current-full.csv https://github.com/cisagov/dotgov-data/blob/main/current-ful...
- chippiewill 2y ago
  Even if there weren't official records, you'd probably be able to get a list of most of them out of the certificate transparency logs (Obviously that would just miss out the non-https enabled ones - less of those these days).
  - MediumOwl 2y ago
    There are also Whois DB services, that will provide you with all domains on a given TLD.
  - bdavbdav 2y ago
    It’s probably the non SSL ones that nefarious actors would find really interesting in the list, as who knows what else is up with them. I suspect the non ssl ones aren’t holding anything particularly useful at this stage though.
- astura 2y ago
  This info is provided by the registrar https://get.gov/about/data/ https://get.gov/about/data/
pratio 2y ago
For those like me who want know how the page was built. It's using https://githubnext.com/projects/flat-data/ https://githubnext.com/projects/flat-data/. You can cycle through commits and files. Love it. Example of another such pages: https://flatgithub.com/the-pudding/data?filename=boybands%2Fboys.csv&sha=9b4e89ed178e11bf70a9b3d8ffa57ac2ea181b96 https://flatgithub.com/the-pudding/data?filename=boybands%2F... It felt a bit like datasette and no wonder it's the inspiration as well
- pl4nty 2y ago
  thanks for this, can't believe I've never come across it. I've been building git scraping tools for years, but didn't know it was a popular pattern
- renegat0x0 2y ago
  I struggled for some time how to maintain data in repository. Initially stored them in a JSON files (1k per file). This, eventually, became tedious. In the end I just redistribute SQLite file now with the data. It is easier for the "user" to use ready database than a set of files. https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database
- beklein 2y ago
  If you are only interested in the neat table UI check: https://github.com/githubocto/flat-ui https://github.com/githubocto/flat-ui
YPPH 2y ago
US government domains seem a little over the place. I'm surprised by the number of courts and counties that have random .org and .com domains. In Australia, it follows a pretty strict structure: Federal: entity.gov.au State: entity.wa.gov.au (example for State of Western Australia) Local: entity.stirling.wa.gov.au (example for a local government in Western Australia), So, for example, the Federal Court is fedcourt.gov.au as it's federal. Strange how the US has such a mishmash.
- dave881 2y ago
  I assume that this is the result of a few quirks here in the US - Lots of things came online in the US before ccTLDs were common, and are still rare for US based orgs - US states have quite a bit of freedom in how they communicate with their citizens. - US states vary greatly in services provided and population (from ~600,000 up to ~40M)
- Operyl 2y ago
  It’s not terribly difficult to get a gov domain, it’s just much easier to do an ordinary one. Smaller towns and cities outsource to cheap WYSIWYG type builders that also include a domain so it’s really simple to just go that route too.
  - Mountain_Skies 2y ago
    It can get quite unprofessional at that level. There was a small suburb in our metro whose .com domain was an insult against the core city. I'm sure they thought it was funny but eventually it did get changed to the town and state name.
- FinnKuhn 2y ago
  Wait until you see the situation in Germany. Everything uses just a normal .de domain, no special TLD for government institutions at all.
  - 9dev 2y ago
    It’s awful, really. Some domain names are so awfully chosen, they sound like scams. Take the government program for financial support to students, called BAföG. Here’s a bunch of domains related to that: * bafoeg.de * bafoeg-digital.de * bafoegonline.bva.bund.de Or, the worst one in my opinion: the German federal ID card has an integrated RFID chip that requires a PIN to unlock. You can use that chip to authenticate against a few government services online, which rely on the PIN as proof of identity. The PIN can be reset using a OTP sent via snail mail. Q: where you you think can you order that letter? a) Bundesdruckerei.de b) personalausweisportal.de c) pin-ruecksetzbrief-bestellen.de d) bmi.bund.de? A: yes. It’s c. Seriously.
ChrisRR 2y ago
Give it a week and see how many of them are taken down in the name of "efficiency"
- psd1 2y ago
  The moment .gov is opened to the public, I'm squatting as many domains as I can grab. Fill your boots! It's raining marks!
  - askl 2y ago
    And with your X.gov premium subscription you will get your blue checkmark and are recognized as a real government entity.
  - EvanAnderson 2y ago
    I use a jokey ".gov" domain for some of my home IT stuff. I always said wistfully that I'd never actually be able to get that domain name. There's a glimmer of hope now that I actually will be able to (albeit I expect my family and I will be sent to a re-education / extermination camp before that happens).
- honeybadger1 2y ago
  it's a good thing to spring clean, just like it's generally a good choice to change life habits and lose weight. humans get lazy or preoccupied and need to alter the "normal" state they get into that could be unhealthy or not as productive.the government is ran by humans as well, it's no surprise that it's gotten shoddy in some areas and some shuffling and fear has been injected to correct this in government operations and spending. it won't all be fair or kosher for sure and some of the layoffs were already stated as mistakes publicly and jobs offered back to some(though not very many surprisingly). with that being said, i hope even you see a surprising amount of what has been uncovered is clearly bad?
  - ChrisRR 2y ago
    I'm not sure what parts you're referring to as "clearly bad" because so far I haven't seen any examples of that. What actually seems "clearly bad" is the random stripping of funding with little to no research into the knock-on effects. The only example I've seen that is potentially is a good move is removing the penny from circulation, but of course that has its own pros and cons.
pknerd 2y ago
The title should mention that it is for the US only.
- mbb70 2y ago
  The United States owns and operates the `.gov` domain, US only is implied.
- bdavbdav 2y ago
  No one else uses the gov TLD. Gov.xx maybe, but that’s a different TLD.
- k4rli 2y ago
  classic us defaultism. "the government" and no specifying needed
  - BenjiWiebe 2y ago
    This is a predominantly US site, run by a US business. There's other nationalities on here, which is great, but it's going to be US-centric.
  - DaSHacka 2y ago
    Feel free to take it up with ICANN.
  - kube-system 2y ago
    At the time .gov was defined, the entire DNS system was a US military project on the ARPA-Internet. It was neither global nor publicly accessible at the time.
  - whalesalad 2y ago
    well we literally invented the internet, so...
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trallnag 2y ago
Are there government domains in the USA that don't live under ".gov" or ".mil" top-level domains? In Germany it is all over the place. For example the official website for federal elections is "bundeswahlleiter.de" and "bundeswahlleiterin.de" depending on whether the election manager is male or female.
- astura 2y ago
  Yes, plenty, even for the federal government. There's nothing that compels government entities to use .gov. A few I can think of: https://www.usps.com/ https://www.usps.com/ https://www.goarmy.com/ https://www.goarmy.com/
  - notfed 2y ago
    "Trust" is a pretty compelling reason.
- psd1 2y ago
  If DNS were invented by German speakers, then requests would have a field for noun case...
  - TZubiri 2y ago
    Now you have me wondering how the cyclades protocol is different from IP. Presumably the protocol rejects malformed packets even if they would be still parseable, and they would additionally berate them in the reply code.
- croisillon 2y ago
  they could have solved this with a Nigerian tld bundeswahlleitu.ng and then shared it with the other German speaking countries :)
  - n_plus_1_acc 2y ago
    bundeswahlleitung.de would be fine
xyst 2y ago
Wild that there hasn’t been some sort of standardization yet. Current: - http://albanycountywy.gov http://albanycountywy.gov - http://albanyga.gov http://albanyga.gov - http://albanyla.gov http://albanyla.gov - http://albanyny.gov http://albanyny.gov - http://albanyoregon.gov http://albanyoregon.gov Proposed: {name}.{county|city|parish…}.{2 letter state abbreviation}.gov - albany.county.wy.gov - albany.city.ga.gov - albany.city.ny.gov - albany.city.or.gov Then can easily distinguish between local, regional, state, and federal resources. Local resource: - parksandrec.albany.city.ga.gov Regional resource: - cad.albany.county.wy.gov State resource: - senate.ny.gov Federal resource: - fbi.gov - nsa.gov As a citizen, would make it very easy to find what you are looking for. Plus the added benefit of trust with .gov. Reduces the risk of our vulnerable citizens (elderly) getting phished.
- acc_297 2y ago
  https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/
- xaldir 2y ago
  Hard to standardize after decades of use. Each of these are well known to the public, referenced everywhere. Changing this would be painful and the benefice is not evident.
  - Larrikin 2y ago
    Why can't those sites just use a 301 or 308 and just change material going forward
    - mattl 2y ago
      Email, non-web content, 30 years of usage..
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- duped 2y ago
  What do you do about Springfield Township(1) and Springfield Township(2)? (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Township,_Burlington_County,_New_Jersey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Township,_Burlingt... (2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Township,_Union_County,_New_Jersey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Township,_Union_Co... Point being that government is messy and exists to cover _all_ cases, not the common case.
amanda99 2y ago
Here is an interesting diff: https://github.com/cisagov/dotgov-data/compare/57e66bcb0fccc802022b93ebbfad2ca847e052a8..main https://github.com/cisagov/dotgov-data/compare/57e66bcb0fccc...
- beams_of_light 2y ago
  dei.gov redirects to waste.gov. It's a PHP site with only a password entry form.
  - ffgh 2y ago
    WordPress nevertheless.
    - iAMkenough 2y ago
      whitehouse.gov is also WordPress
LorenDB 2y ago
I was quite confused why the government would create an entire site telling people to stop consuming manga. I mean, I personally don't care for manga/anime stuff, but really? Turns out it's just a website for Quitman, GA. https://quitmanga.gov https://quitmanga.gov
- Slump 2y ago
  This brought out an audible chuckle from me. Definitely stealing this and sharing this site with a few co-workers who are heavily into manga/anime. Thanks for the laugh.
  - xmichael909 2y ago
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    - rcpt 2y ago
      You really can't use sarcasm around that topic. There seems to be no limit to what their supporters will fall for.
      - lizamomo96 2y ago
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      - cheema33 2y ago
        > You really can't use sarcasm around that topic. I have often wondered why that is. Why is the sarcasm bit turned off for most conservatives? Similarly their humor bit is quite off as well. There aren't many successful conservative comedians either.
        xp84 2y ago
        I’ve seen it’s no different on either side with how willing they are to believe something horrendous about the other side (which interferes with interpreting a statement as sarcasm). For instance, you believe “most conservatives” don’t understand sarcasm, which is silly. Most people do, they just really want to believe the other “team” is evil, stupid, and/or subhuman. Edit: added the words after “evil.”
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29athrowaway 2y ago
Many of those URLs could use subdomains, especially the state level ones.
Eikon 2y ago
Seems like this is missing quite a few :) https://www.merklemap.com/search?query=*.gov&page=0 https://www.merklemap.com/search?query=*.gov&page=0 Exported to use the same viewer as the other list: https://flatgithub.com/barre/all_dot_gov_domains?filename=all_dot_gov_domains.csv&sha=72f6b223e2da9a71b2c06eb6e600dc2325361e66 https://flatgithub.com/barre/all_dot_gov_domains?filename=al...
- thrdbndndn 2y ago
  The list in your link includes all the subdomains, so I can't really tell if it's more complete than OP's list.
m-hodges 2y ago
For a few years I’ve been operating the EveryDotGov bot; formerly on Twitter, formerly on Mastodon, now on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/everydotgov.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/everydotgov.bsky.social
- mattl 2y ago
  Why did you stop posting on Mastodon?
  - m-hodges 2y ago
    botsin.space shut down.
Arubis 2y ago
Probably worthwhile to start piping the contents of these into a private archive.
- TZubiri 2y ago
  archive.org should already have this
ajaygeorge91 2y ago
where is doge.gov
- rexreed 2y ago
  It's there, under doe.gov and above dohfireca.gov in the full list when sorted alphabetically.
irs 2y ago
Is there a similar source for .edu ?
- whalesalad 2y ago
  I have the zonefile for .education but not .edu =(
jeffmc 2y ago
Interesting list. I geocoded the data and created an interactive searchable map of the sites - https://ramadda.org/repository/a/dotgov https://ramadda.org/repository/a/dotgov
atxlurker 2y ago
This is far from an exhaustive list of the .gov domain. Perhaps it is only the ones managed at the Top level. For instance, Texas.gov is listed here, but none of the subdomains are. For example gov.texas.gov, house.texas.gov, senate.texas.gov, comptroller.texas.gov, etc...
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gr33nq 2y ago
I registered and currently manage one of these .gov domains. Registration took some time, but it was an interesting process and felt pretty cool once it was finally provisioned!
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chriscjcj 2y ago
Not every. Bart.gov is missing. (I found it in the data source, but not on the website that was linked to.)
- 0xdade 2y ago
  Yeah based on the linked document, it's missing about 1000 apex domains based on the .gov zone export from today. Even the current-full.csv on the latest commit in github is short about 1000 apex domains. $ cat 2025-02-21-gov.txt | cut -f1 | uniq | wc -l 13345 But nevertheless, I like seeing it made easily available on github!

336 points by KoftaBob 2y ago

The equivalent for the UK is https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/list-of-gov-uk-domain-names https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/list-of-gov-uk-do... (I helped open that up when I was there.)

numinix 2y ago
The parish council websites seem to have a lot of freedom to run their own standards. Lots of WP and shall we say 'nostalgic' web design!
- ChrisRR 2y ago
  Given how many parish councils are just a bunch of biddies, be thankful they even have websites.
  - croisillon 2y ago
    TIL a new word!
  - markx2 2y ago
    Having served on a parish council there can certainly be a technology challenge for some. There are services which will do the work - https://cuttlefish.com/local-councils/ https://cuttlefish.com/local-councils/ - https://www.parishcouncil.net https://www.parishcouncil.net - are two of many. These have their drawbacks, may not provide exportable data so locking the council in. Some will allow direct access, some require that any new content be sent to them and they upload it. Some councils will own their domain name, some will not. Then there is the email issue and many will use a gmail / hotmail address. Cost, especially these days, is also a factor. I don't see it as a bad thing to have so much variety though.
  - jonathantf2 2y ago
    Our local parish council don't have SPF, DKIM or DMARC set up so every single meeting is just a back and forth of "well I didn't receive that e-mail"
    - ChrisRR 2y ago
      Our local parish spent literally years arguing about removing a dog poo bin from a park
      - biofox 2y ago
        Critical infrastructure projects require proper due diligence.
      - PhilipRoman 2y ago
        something something Chesterton's fence
      - ianmcgowan 2y ago
        Let's hope they don't want to paint the bike shed!
- rsynnott 2y ago
  There are over 10,000 of them, many absolutely tiny.
- toyg 2y ago
  One thing that British local government definitely is NOT, is consistent. 500 years of continuous monarchic rule means the backbone of the State is a rickety Rube Goldberg machine, riddled with absurdities and obsolete entities that change every few miles. What you mention is the tip of an iceberg as big as Greenland, where every other town or region is administered in fundamentally different ways for no particularly good reason beyond "that's how it's always been". For all their centralist instincts, the Westminster classes fundamentally don't care about how the provinces go about their business, as long as they keep paying into London and act adequately subservient whenever the Southern classes come knocking. So we have to live with constitutional aberrations like Cornwall and Lancaster.

chirau 2y ago

How do you guys go about doing this? Is there some techy/reverse engineering way or you manually asking each department which domains they have?

TechRemarker 2y ago
Did you open the link? The the very top says Data Source: https://manage.get.gov/api/v1/get-report/current-full https://manage.get.gov/api/v1/get-report/current-full. Public API provides them all, this is just a website to more easily view that data.
rayhaanj 2y ago
You can download a list from here too: https://github.com/cisagov/dotgov-data/blob/main/current-full.csv https://github.com/cisagov/dotgov-data/blob/main/current-ful...
chippiewill 2y ago
Even if there weren't official records, you'd probably be able to get a list of most of them out of the certificate transparency logs (Obviously that would just miss out the non-https enabled ones - less of those these days).
- MediumOwl 2y ago
  There are also Whois DB services, that will provide you with all domains on a given TLD.
- bdavbdav 2y ago
  It’s probably the non SSL ones that nefarious actors would find really interesting in the list, as who knows what else is up with them. I suspect the non ssl ones aren’t holding anything particularly useful at this stage though.
astura 2y ago
This info is provided by the registrar https://get.gov/about/data/ https://get.gov/about/data/

pratio 2y ago

For those like me who want know how the page was built. It's using https://githubnext.com/projects/flat-data/ https://githubnext.com/projects/flat-data/. You can cycle through commits and files. Love it. Example of another such pages: https://flatgithub.com/the-pudding/data?filename=boybands%2Fboys.csv&sha=9b4e89ed178e11bf70a9b3d8ffa57ac2ea181b96 https://flatgithub.com/the-pudding/data?filename=boybands%2F... It felt a bit like datasette and no wonder it's the inspiration as well

pl4nty 2y ago
thanks for this, can't believe I've never come across it. I've been building git scraping tools for years, but didn't know it was a popular pattern
renegat0x0 2y ago
I struggled for some time how to maintain data in repository. Initially stored them in a JSON files (1k per file). This, eventually, became tedious. In the end I just redistribute SQLite file now with the data. It is easier for the "user" to use ready database than a set of files. https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database
beklein 2y ago
If you are only interested in the neat table UI check: https://github.com/githubocto/flat-ui https://github.com/githubocto/flat-ui

YPPH 2y ago

US government domains seem a little over the place. I'm surprised by the number of courts and counties that have random .org and .com domains. In Australia, it follows a pretty strict structure: Federal: entity.gov.au State: entity.wa.gov.au (example for State of Western Australia) Local: entity.stirling.wa.gov.au (example for a local government in Western Australia), So, for example, the Federal Court is fedcourt.gov.au as it's federal. Strange how the US has such a mishmash.

dave881 2y ago
I assume that this is the result of a few quirks here in the US - Lots of things came online in the US before ccTLDs were common, and are still rare for US based orgs - US states have quite a bit of freedom in how they communicate with their citizens. - US states vary greatly in services provided and population (from ~600,000 up to ~40M)
Operyl 2y ago
It’s not terribly difficult to get a gov domain, it’s just much easier to do an ordinary one. Smaller towns and cities outsource to cheap WYSIWYG type builders that also include a domain so it’s really simple to just go that route too.
- Mountain_Skies 2y ago
  It can get quite unprofessional at that level. There was a small suburb in our metro whose .com domain was an insult against the core city. I'm sure they thought it was funny but eventually it did get changed to the town and state name.
FinnKuhn 2y ago
Wait until you see the situation in Germany. Everything uses just a normal .de domain, no special TLD for government institutions at all.
- 9dev 2y ago
  It’s awful, really. Some domain names are so awfully chosen, they sound like scams. Take the government program for financial support to students, called BAföG. Here’s a bunch of domains related to that: * bafoeg.de * bafoeg-digital.de * bafoegonline.bva.bund.de Or, the worst one in my opinion: the German federal ID card has an integrated RFID chip that requires a PIN to unlock. You can use that chip to authenticate against a few government services online, which rely on the PIN as proof of identity. The PIN can be reset using a OTP sent via snail mail. Q: where you you think can you order that letter? a) Bundesdruckerei.de b) personalausweisportal.de c) pin-ruecksetzbrief-bestellen.de d) bmi.bund.de? A: yes. It’s c. Seriously.

ChrisRR 2y ago

Give it a week and see how many of them are taken down in the name of "efficiency"

psd1 2y ago
The moment .gov is opened to the public, I'm squatting as many domains as I can grab. Fill your boots! It's raining marks!
- askl 2y ago
  And with your X.gov premium subscription you will get your blue checkmark and are recognized as a real government entity.
- EvanAnderson 2y ago
  I use a jokey ".gov" domain for some of my home IT stuff. I always said wistfully that I'd never actually be able to get that domain name. There's a glimmer of hope now that I actually will be able to (albeit I expect my family and I will be sent to a re-education / extermination camp before that happens).
honeybadger1 2y ago
it's a good thing to spring clean, just like it's generally a good choice to change life habits and lose weight. humans get lazy or preoccupied and need to alter the "normal" state they get into that could be unhealthy or not as productive.the government is ran by humans as well, it's no surprise that it's gotten shoddy in some areas and some shuffling and fear has been injected to correct this in government operations and spending. it won't all be fair or kosher for sure and some of the layoffs were already stated as mistakes publicly and jobs offered back to some(though not very many surprisingly). with that being said, i hope even you see a surprising amount of what has been uncovered is clearly bad?
- ChrisRR 2y ago
  I'm not sure what parts you're referring to as "clearly bad" because so far I haven't seen any examples of that. What actually seems "clearly bad" is the random stripping of funding with little to no research into the knock-on effects. The only example I've seen that is potentially is a good move is removing the penny from circulation, but of course that has its own pros and cons.

pknerd 2y ago

The title should mention that it is for the US only.

mbb70 2y ago
The United States owns and operates the `.gov` domain, US only is implied.
bdavbdav 2y ago
No one else uses the gov TLD. Gov.xx maybe, but that’s a different TLD.
k4rli 2y ago
classic us defaultism. "the government" and no specifying needed
- BenjiWiebe 2y ago
  This is a predominantly US site, run by a US business. There's other nationalities on here, which is great, but it's going to be US-centric.
- DaSHacka 2y ago
  Feel free to take it up with ICANN.
- kube-system 2y ago
  At the time .gov was defined, the entire DNS system was a US military project on the ARPA-Internet. It was neither global nor publicly accessible at the time.
- whalesalad 2y ago
  well we literally invented the internet, so...
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trallnag 2y ago

Are there government domains in the USA that don't live under ".gov" or ".mil" top-level domains? In Germany it is all over the place. For example the official website for federal elections is "bundeswahlleiter.de" and "bundeswahlleiterin.de" depending on whether the election manager is male or female.

astura 2y ago
Yes, plenty, even for the federal government. There's nothing that compels government entities to use .gov. A few I can think of: https://www.usps.com/ https://www.usps.com/ https://www.goarmy.com/ https://www.goarmy.com/
- notfed 2y ago
  "Trust" is a pretty compelling reason.
psd1 2y ago
If DNS were invented by German speakers, then requests would have a field for noun case...
- TZubiri 2y ago
  Now you have me wondering how the cyclades protocol is different from IP. Presumably the protocol rejects malformed packets even if they would be still parseable, and they would additionally berate them in the reply code.
croisillon 2y ago
they could have solved this with a Nigerian tld bundeswahlleitu.ng and then shared it with the other German speaking countries :)
- n_plus_1_acc 2y ago
  bundeswahlleitung.de would be fine

xyst 2y ago

Wild that there hasn’t been some sort of standardization yet. Current: - http://albanycountywy.gov http://albanycountywy.gov - http://albanyga.gov http://albanyga.gov - http://albanyla.gov http://albanyla.gov - http://albanyny.gov http://albanyny.gov - http://albanyoregon.gov http://albanyoregon.gov Proposed: {name}.{county|city|parish…}.{2 letter state abbreviation}.gov - albany.county.wy.gov - albany.city.ga.gov - albany.city.ny.gov - albany.city.or.gov Then can easily distinguish between local, regional, state, and federal resources. Local resource: - parksandrec.albany.city.ga.gov Regional resource: - cad.albany.county.wy.gov State resource: - senate.ny.gov Federal resource: - fbi.gov - nsa.gov As a citizen, would make it very easy to find what you are looking for. Plus the added benefit of trust with .gov. Reduces the risk of our vulnerable citizens (elderly) getting phished.

acc_297 2y ago
https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/
xaldir 2y ago
Hard to standardize after decades of use. Each of these are well known to the public, referenced everywhere. Changing this would be painful and the benefice is not evident.
- Larrikin 2y ago
  Why can't those sites just use a 301 or 308 and just change material going forward
  - mattl 2y ago
    Email, non-web content, 30 years of usage..
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duped 2y ago
What do you do about Springfield Township(1) and Springfield Township(2)? (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Township,_Burlington_County,_New_Jersey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Township,_Burlingt... (2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Township,_Union_County,_New_Jersey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Township,_Union_Co... Point being that government is messy and exists to cover _all_ cases, not the common case.

amanda99 2y ago

Here is an interesting diff: https://github.com/cisagov/dotgov-data/compare/57e66bcb0fccc802022b93ebbfad2ca847e052a8..main https://github.com/cisagov/dotgov-data/compare/57e66bcb0fccc...

beams_of_light 2y ago
dei.gov redirects to waste.gov. It's a PHP site with only a password entry form.
- ffgh 2y ago
  WordPress nevertheless.
  - iAMkenough 2y ago
    whitehouse.gov is also WordPress

LorenDB 2y ago

I was quite confused why the government would create an entire site telling people to stop consuming manga. I mean, I personally don't care for manga/anime stuff, but really? Turns out it's just a website for Quitman, GA. https://quitmanga.gov https://quitmanga.gov

Slump 2y ago
This brought out an audible chuckle from me. Definitely stealing this and sharing this site with a few co-workers who are heavily into manga/anime. Thanks for the laugh.
- xmichael909 2y ago
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  - rcpt 2y ago
    You really can't use sarcasm around that topic. There seems to be no limit to what their supporters will fall for.
    - lizamomo96 2y ago
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    - cheema33 2y ago
      > You really can't use sarcasm around that topic. I have often wondered why that is. Why is the sarcasm bit turned off for most conservatives? Similarly their humor bit is quite off as well. There aren't many successful conservative comedians either.
      - xp84 2y ago
        I’ve seen it’s no different on either side with how willing they are to believe something horrendous about the other side (which interferes with interpreting a statement as sarcasm). For instance, you believe “most conservatives” don’t understand sarcasm, which is silly. Most people do, they just really want to believe the other “team” is evil, stupid, and/or subhuman. Edit: added the words after “evil.”

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29athrowaway 2y ago

Many of those URLs could use subdomains, especially the state level ones.

Eikon 2y ago

Seems like this is missing quite a few :) https://www.merklemap.com/search?query=*.gov&page=0 https://www.merklemap.com/search?query=*.gov&page=0 Exported to use the same viewer as the other list: https://flatgithub.com/barre/all_dot_gov_domains?filename=all_dot_gov_domains.csv&sha=72f6b223e2da9a71b2c06eb6e600dc2325361e66 https://flatgithub.com/barre/all_dot_gov_domains?filename=al...

thrdbndndn 2y ago
The list in your link includes all the subdomains, so I can't really tell if it's more complete than OP's list.

m-hodges 2y ago

For a few years I’ve been operating the EveryDotGov bot; formerly on Twitter, formerly on Mastodon, now on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/everydotgov.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/everydotgov.bsky.social

mattl 2y ago
Why did you stop posting on Mastodon?
- m-hodges 2y ago
  botsin.space shut down.

Arubis 2y ago

Probably worthwhile to start piping the contents of these into a private archive.

TZubiri 2y ago
archive.org should already have this

ajaygeorge91 2y ago

where is doge.gov

rexreed 2y ago
It's there, under doe.gov and above dohfireca.gov in the full list when sorted alphabetically.

irs 2y ago

Is there a similar source for .edu ?

whalesalad 2y ago
I have the zonefile for .education but not .edu =(

jeffmc 2y ago

Interesting list. I geocoded the data and created an interactive searchable map of the sites - https://ramadda.org/repository/a/dotgov https://ramadda.org/repository/a/dotgov

atxlurker 2y ago

This is far from an exhaustive list of the .gov domain. Perhaps it is only the ones managed at the Top level. For instance, Texas.gov is listed here, but none of the subdomains are. For example gov.texas.gov, house.texas.gov, senate.texas.gov, comptroller.texas.gov, etc...

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gr33nq 2y ago

I registered and currently manage one of these .gov domains. Registration took some time, but it was an interesting process and felt pretty cool once it was finally provisioned!

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chriscjcj 2y ago

Not every. Bart.gov is missing. (I found it in the data source, but not on the website that was linked to.)

0xdade 2y ago
Yeah based on the linked document, it's missing about 1000 apex domains based on the .gov zone export from today. Even the current-full.csv on the latest commit in github is short about 1000 apex domains. $ cat 2025-02-21-gov.txt | cut -f1 | uniq | wc -l 13345 But nevertheless, I like seeing it made easily available on github!