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I remember people getting beat up for wearing Google glasses in public. What a difference 10 years makes. https://www.businessinsider.com/i-was-assaulted-for-w

I remember people getting beat up for wearing Google glasses in public. What a difference 10 years makes. https://www.businessinsider.com/i-was-assaulted-for-wearing-google-glass-2014-4 https://www.businessinsider.com/i-was-assaulted-for-wearing-...

memhole 2y ago
Yeah, the shift in acceptance is really interesting to see. This documentary has always stood out to me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Live_in_Public https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Live_in_Public
Isamu 2y ago
I would argue it has more to do with conventional styling and what that signals rather than some wider acceptance. The Google Glass look tended to draw attention in a negative way, such god awful styling that narrow minded people might conclude you were an asshole for wearing one.
- navaed01 2y ago
  The form factor for these improves acceptance but no doubt there has been a societal shift, so much more of our lives are captured, shared, communicated and entertained through individuals filming. If not your peers, the generation below you is a ‘video and image as communication’ generation.
netsharc 2y ago
Instagram shows me too many videos of "pick up artists" doing POV videos of their douchey interaction with girls, recorded on these. I wonder if it's too stealthy that the people being recorded don't notice. Slash, maybe they have release forms and the videos published are just the ones where they consented to being recorded (heh, as if the pick-up scene cares so great about consent...), and the failed ones are where they immediately say "Is that a camera? Fuck off!". It does have a glowing LED: https://youtu.be/X95mWoTgjaE?t=105 https://youtu.be/X95mWoTgjaE?t=105 but I feel like they're easy to hide with some black tape.
- xGrill 2y ago
  If you put black tape over the light, it will not allow you to turn on the camera, however, I believe someone found a hack that said if you started recording and then put black tape over the recording, it would allow you to continue to record, but only for 3 minute increments.
  - chuckwolfe 2y ago
    Could you just replace the led with a uv led or a resistor?
    - unsupp0rted 2y ago
      If "just" requires ordering specific electronic components and soldering, it's not "just" for most people.
      - chillacy 2y ago
        Also not the easy kind of 1990's LED soldering, like tiny surface mount soldering.
    - burnerthrow008 2y ago
      I suppose that really depends on how hard they’re trying to prevent you from doing that… * They could measure the forward voltage of the LED when driven by a known current. Bonus points for measuring at multiple currents. Remember that the forward voltage depends on color. * They could measure the reverse leakage current at a known voltage, and compare that to the illumination from the camera’s exposure feedback. Remember that every LED is also a photodiode. * They could vary the LED driver current to heat it up, then measure that both of the above measurements are compatible with the higher temperature. Remember that most semiconductor properties have a strong temperature dependence. So it would be pretty easy to detect most simple mods if they really wanted to.
      - Manuel_D 2y ago
asdff 2y ago
Being introduced to something in adult hood vs being primed for it from your first moments of thought. That is the real mark between generations. What sensibilities marketing departments have propagandized within this cohort of youths. They will hold those views to some degree for the rest of their lives.
prepend 2y ago
Google glass looked stupid. So I think the biggest pushback was on people looking different, and not in a good way. These look very close to normal, so I think most people don’t even notice.
konfusinomicon 2y ago
all the picked on glasses wearing nerds got programming jobs and are about to flip the whole script on society. only ones not wearing glasses now are the wierd ones
yownie 2y ago
>Google, for all the backlash it's gotten over gentrification, last year's NSA revelations, and personal data collection for ads, still looks like a company that gives a damn. this one didn't age very well did it?
__s 2y ago
Odd story given your comment. Story is about being mugged for wearing a device. 15 years ago a fellow student had someone walk up to them, ask to see their phone, then bolt off with it. Tho that student was pretty tall so he laughed it off since the guy didn't get far & as for internet laughing at someone's misfortune, that's normal. He says they wouldn't say he had it coming if it was jewelry, but people are laughing saying this rapper had it coming singing "ice on my neck" before going for crowd surfing: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VocdUpfuepY https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VocdUpfuepY
vid 2y ago
A couple years before that, Steve Mann had his medically attached prototype glasses ripped off his head in a McDonald's in Paris. https://www.theverge.com/2012/7/19/3169889/steve-mann-cyborg-assault-mcdonalds-eyetap-paris https://www.theverge.com/2012/7/19/3169889/steve-mann-cyborg...
quantified 2y ago
Being Mr. or Ms. Surveillance Narc has a little less stigma than back then, but there is still stigma. We'll have captivating stories of Little Brother, intentional and accidental, in the near future. One person's "breaking the moment" is another person's "fair warning", especially in private spaces.
theshackleford 2y ago
I got beaten unconscious in public once for doing absolutely nothing. Violent people don’t really need much of a reason for doing violent things.

memhole 2y ago

Yeah, the shift in acceptance is really interesting to see. This documentary has always stood out to me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Live_in_Public https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Live_in_Public

Isamu 2y ago

I would argue it has more to do with conventional styling and what that signals rather than some wider acceptance. The Google Glass look tended to draw attention in a negative way, such god awful styling that narrow minded people might conclude you were an asshole for wearing one.

navaed01 2y ago
The form factor for these improves acceptance but no doubt there has been a societal shift, so much more of our lives are captured, shared, communicated and entertained through individuals filming. If not your peers, the generation below you is a ‘video and image as communication’ generation.

netsharc 2y ago

Instagram shows me too many videos of "pick up artists" doing POV videos of their douchey interaction with girls, recorded on these. I wonder if it's too stealthy that the people being recorded don't notice. Slash, maybe they have release forms and the videos published are just the ones where they consented to being recorded (heh, as if the pick-up scene cares so great about consent...), and the failed ones are where they immediately say "Is that a camera? Fuck off!". It does have a glowing LED: https://youtu.be/X95mWoTgjaE?t=105 https://youtu.be/X95mWoTgjaE?t=105 but I feel like they're easy to hide with some black tape.

xGrill 2y ago
If you put black tape over the light, it will not allow you to turn on the camera, however, I believe someone found a hack that said if you started recording and then put black tape over the recording, it would allow you to continue to record, but only for 3 minute increments.
- chuckwolfe 2y ago
  Could you just replace the led with a uv led or a resistor?
  - unsupp0rted 2y ago
    If "just" requires ordering specific electronic components and soldering, it's not "just" for most people.
    - chillacy 2y ago
      Also not the easy kind of 1990's LED soldering, like tiny surface mount soldering.
  - burnerthrow008 2y ago
    I suppose that really depends on how hard they’re trying to prevent you from doing that… * They could measure the forward voltage of the LED when driven by a known current. Bonus points for measuring at multiple currents. Remember that the forward voltage depends on color. * They could measure the reverse leakage current at a known voltage, and compare that to the illumination from the camera’s exposure feedback. Remember that every LED is also a photodiode. * They could vary the LED driver current to heat it up, then measure that both of the above measurements are compatible with the higher temperature. Remember that most semiconductor properties have a strong temperature dependence. So it would be pretty easy to detect most simple mods if they really wanted to.
    - Manuel_D 2y ago

asdff 2y ago

Being introduced to something in adult hood vs being primed for it from your first moments of thought. That is the real mark between generations. What sensibilities marketing departments have propagandized within this cohort of youths. They will hold those views to some degree for the rest of their lives.

prepend 2y ago

Google glass looked stupid. So I think the biggest pushback was on people looking different, and not in a good way. These look very close to normal, so I think most people don’t even notice.

konfusinomicon 2y ago

all the picked on glasses wearing nerds got programming jobs and are about to flip the whole script on society. only ones not wearing glasses now are the wierd ones

yownie 2y ago

>Google, for all the backlash it's gotten over gentrification, last year's NSA revelations, and personal data collection for ads, still looks like a company that gives a damn. this one didn't age very well did it?

__s 2y ago

Odd story given your comment. Story is about being mugged for wearing a device. 15 years ago a fellow student had someone walk up to them, ask to see their phone, then bolt off with it. Tho that student was pretty tall so he laughed it off since the guy didn't get far & as for internet laughing at someone's misfortune, that's normal. He says they wouldn't say he had it coming if it was jewelry, but people are laughing saying this rapper had it coming singing "ice on my neck" before going for crowd surfing: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VocdUpfuepY https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VocdUpfuepY

vid 2y ago

A couple years before that, Steve Mann had his medically attached prototype glasses ripped off his head in a McDonald's in Paris. https://www.theverge.com/2012/7/19/3169889/steve-mann-cyborg-assault-mcdonalds-eyetap-paris https://www.theverge.com/2012/7/19/3169889/steve-mann-cyborg...

quantified 2y ago

Being Mr. or Ms. Surveillance Narc has a little less stigma than back then, but there is still stigma. We'll have captivating stories of Little Brother, intentional and accidental, in the near future. One person's "breaking the moment" is another person's "fair warning", especially in private spaces.

theshackleford 2y ago

I got beaten unconscious in public once for doing absolutely nothing. Violent people don’t really need much of a reason for doing violent things.