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Clear view from the plane waiting to take off https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/1isabtg/a_clear_visual_of_delta_airlines_crashlanding_at/ h
by leetrout 2y ago
Clear view from the plane waiting to take off
https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/1isabtg/a_clear_visual_of_delta_airlines_crashlanding_at/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/1isabt...
Which also brings into mind cockpit distractions but its amazing they caught this on video.
- eknkc 2y agoI wonder why were they filming? Was there an early warning? Was it a sketchy landing in any case? I mean aircraft are fascinating and people film them all the time but wouldn’t expect a pilot sitting in another one to casually film landings. Maybe just an extremely lucky catch.
- randerson 2y agoProbably just because pilots generally think planes are cool, especially when landing, and there's not much else to do while waiting in line but film them.
- rob74 2y ago...after they've completed all their checklists and are ready for takeoff, of course.
- Scoundreller 2y agoIn Toronto that day, there was a lot of waiting on the tarmac
- psunavy03 2y agoAs a former aviator, the joke in the business is that a career in aviation is largely stupefying boredom interrupted by moments of sheer terror.
- bookofjoe 2y agoAlso perfectly descriptive of being an anesthesiologist. We had a resident who, at the end of most OR days, even during his third (final) year of residency, would come into the ready room and remark, "Something really amazing happened today...." The fact that this was still the case for him after anesthetizing thousands of patients was troubling to us attendings.
- devilbunny 2y agoI diagnosed my first pseudocholinesterase deficiency as a CA-1 (for non-doctors: second-year resident, patient was still paralyzed after a long case from a drug that usually lasts ~5 minutes, had to send him to ICU on ventilator until it finally broke down from all the other enzymes in the body). Had to be an attending for ~10 years before I got a malignant hyperthermia case. Do not want to repeat either of those. No. Surprises. Ever. Unless it's ROSC (return of spontaneous circulation, aka we succeeded) in a code.
- bookofjoe 2y agoThat's interesting. I never encountered either a pseudocholinesterase deficiency or MH during my 38 years of residency/attending/private practice. However — in my first year of residency, during my rotation at the VA, while performing my first brachial plexus block, I unknowingly injected lidocaine into the axillary artery: as the patient began seizing, the attending calmly said "Joe, take out the needle, I'm going to give him some diazepam." Worked! Never had another intravascular injection (that became symptomatic) doing a regional block.
- devilbunny 2y agoOne of my attendings during residency was Kenyan. In the bush, pediatric anesthesia was lido until they seized. At that point, you knew they could not feel anything.
- bookofjoe 2y ago
- kevincox 2y agoYeah, this guy probably has a library of landing videos.
- jboggan 2y agoI think most pilots could take one look at that approach and see they were coming in too fast. As many have said, that looked more like a carrier landing than an airstrip approach.
- Piskvorrr 2y agoExtremely lucky, probably not. More in the sense "under different circumstances, this would have gone into the folder Uninteresting Landings, never to be viewed again." Ubiquitous smartphones mean petabytes upon petabytes of boring photos and videos - the "unusual" part is just in the event itself.
- kshacker 2y agoAnd now we are going to require body cams in everything and AI will sort it out for us
- DiggyJohnson 2y agoBecause of the tricky conditions and great view. Presumably they were waiting for that arrival and it’s not every day you get that view of crosswind landings into such a snowy airport.
- unregistereddev 2y agoLots of pilots know each other and will sometimes film each other's landings just for fun. The original idea was probably along the lines of "Bill's coming in and I have a good angle on it, let's take a video and send it to him." Landing is the hardest part of piloting an airplane and many pilots take pride in their ability to land smoothly. Slight tangent, if you are on an airplane that lands smoothly despite bad weather and crosswinds, compliment the pilot as you leave the plane. I once offered a "That was a damned impressive landing in this wind" on my way off an airplane and the pilot simply beamed with pride.
- madaxe_again 2y agoI saw the footage, and wondered if perhaps he knew he had a buddy filming him, and there was a “watch this” going on, decided to flare as late as possible, and he just flared… well, stick up after you hit the deck like a sack of potatoes doesn’t do much for you.
- lqet 2y agoFrom the same thread, an AMA by a passenger: https://old.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1is5unz/i_was_on_the_flight_that_crashed_today_in_toronto/ https://old.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1is5unz/i_was_on_the_f... Just to emphasize how insanely lucky they were: > From inside we didn't see any of the fire, thank goodness! We were all upside down to start with, but many of us were able to release themselves pretty quickly. After that the "upright" of us helped the upside-down until we were all righted and ready to evacuate. We were able to quickly get out the one emergency exit that was safe, the other one poured jet fuel in when they opened it.
- 0xbadcafebee 2y ago> the other one poured jet fuel in when they opened it welp guess i'm never flying again
- SteveNuts 2y ago[flagged]
- account42 2y agoWait until you hear how many car crashes there are per moth and how many fatal hiking accidents. You'll never travel again! That is, until you learn how many people pass away in their own home.
- tomcar288 2y agoWait until you hear how many people pass away as a result of eating cheeseburgers! Only somewhat kidding here. The number of people that die from heart disease and stroke and diabetes is far far greater than plane crashes or car crashes. Metabolic syndrome is a large constellation of diseases and scientists have discovered that many of them are largely preventable through diet and lifestyle choices!
- munk-a 2y ago
- fransje26 2y agoNice video! No flare, hard landing, landing-gear collapse. Ouch.
- alsoforgotmypwd 2y agoThe landing gear didn't collapse, the wings ripped off from landing too hard.
- gonzo 2y agoOnly one wing separated
- alsoforgotmypwd 2y agoEither way, it's a write-off and it's not the landing gear's fault.
- nirui 2y agoHoly shit, that was just pure luck that no one end up dead. Based on the video, the plane glide-flipped just enough to slide/roll itself out of the major fire. Things could be a whole lot worse if it played out just slightly differently.
- cjrp 2y agoI was thinking this, and also if the airframe had warped enough to prevent the doors opening (maybe this is impossible?).
- jessekv 2y agoStop, drop, and roll.
- snovv_crash 2y agoIn this case more like drop, roll and stop.
- exabrial 2y agoMy brother in law, aviation firefighter, said after a crash you have 15s to egress, that's it. There's not a lot of air in the metal tube you're trapped in, it'll fill with smoke and everyone will be disoriented. It's also a long way to the exits, and the average person in the exit row probably will be in shock and likely not operate the exit door immediately. Absolutely incredible the fireball was put out in the flip, these people are so lucky.
- arrowsmith 2y agoPresumably it helped that they crashed into a thick pile of snow in freezing conditions - I imagine that would slow the spread of the fire. But still, that’s astonishing footage in the Reddit post linked above. Incredible that no one died.
- rtkwe 2y agoAlso the wing broke off early so the plane continued away from the initial fireball.
- dredmorbius 2y agoAnd the fuel spilled both away from the fuselage and onto snow, which both kept the main focus of the fire away from people and limited development of the fireball as well. Kerosene (Jet-A) is relatively nonvolatile and tends to burn most violently when dispersed in air. It's not quite as heavy as diesel fuel, in which you can extinguish a lit match, but conditions in this incident probably limited flame development considerably.
- ghostly_s 2y agoAll that snow is going to do next to a jet fuel fire is create a lot of steam.
- mannykannot 2y agoThe crash kicked up a lot of snow into the air, making me wonder if that helped suppress the fireball, as it seemed to die down very quickly. On thing leading to me think this might have happened is video from the recent firefighting in California, where the spray from the firefighting aircraft seemed to snuff out the flames as soon as it descended into them, before it reached the ground.
- xhkkffbf 2y agoDoes this pilot record lots of landings? Is this standard procedure?
- DiggyJohnson 2y agoIt’s not a procedure but not against the rules assuming his parking brake was on. It would be similar to you taking notes in a personal notebook that you keep as a development journal.
- seatac76 2y agoThat was a navy landing. Looks like the landing gear buckled. Also doesn’t look like there was much flaring prior to touchdown.
- dredmorbius 2y agoOr flaps, as is noted in other discussions.
- amelius 2y agoWhy doesn't every airport have a bunch of automated cameras around every landing/takeoff strip?
- polynomial 2y agoThis seems like a really good question. if not for some random dude they wouldn't have any footage of this crash.
- munk-a 2y agoThere are a plethora of security cameras covering the takeoff area to monitor for obstacles and unauthorized personnel as well as plenty of cameras covering security fences that likely have partial coverage of the interior area... lastly, there are multiple things recording everything the plane does including in the air traffic controller tower and the plane's black box. Whether the folks controlling these recordings would publicly release them is debatable (especially as it may be seen as being in bad taste due to the trauma these folks experienced and especially especially if anyone had died or ends up dying from injuries sustained).
- TonyTrapp 2y agoI would assume they do, but it's not exactly in their interest to release footage of catastrophes for public consumption.
- adamanonymous 2y agoI think they do, there was a bunch of footage of the AA collision it just took a little while for it to surface online. People publishing to social media is faster than an investigation