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> Media and social media are evil forces. We've got to get over this "all media bad" mentality. It's counterproductive and not helping anything. Sure, there ar

by gnz11 2y ago

> Media and social media are evil forces. We've got to get over this "all media bad" mentality. It's counterproductive and not helping anything. Sure, there are garbage media organizations publishing to maximize profits but there are also all kinds of organizations doing stellar journalism these days too. Also, "media" is such a broad term that it's almost meaningless.

marcosdumay 2y ago
> but there are also all kinds of organizations doing stellar journalism these days too They just don't have any viewership. It may be worth studying why and what can be done to fix this. But I bet one will get stuck with "it's because of government corruption" pretty soon and have no place to move from there.
Kubuxu 2y ago
Could you list few? I’ve stopped following media in general because everything I could find was profit maximisation through outrage and sensationalism. So I would really appreciate something that isn’t that.
- janderson215 2y ago
  Foreign Affairs is an exception I’ve recently discovered that seems to go for level-headed criticism versus a more panicky take. Here’s an example article: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/path-american-authoritarianism-trump https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/path-american-a...
jajko 2y ago
Please stop dragging rest of humanity to your side, there is no "we" in your camp, and I agree with OP in the meaning of his/her words. Its a net loss for humanity, as is all political correctness instead of objective truth which should always be pursued. Maybe a good idea on paper, but it failed to actually change anything or anybody, fringe people just got pushed into their own siloed groups and there is no coming back, thanx to 'media'. Now with ie US elections of gradually in Europe too we saw and see how all fringe quietly became majority at the end.

by gnz11 2y ago

marcosdumay 2y ago

> but there are also all kinds of organizations doing stellar journalism these days too They just don't have any viewership. It may be worth studying why and what can be done to fix this. But I bet one will get stuck with "it's because of government corruption" pretty soon and have no place to move from there.

Kubuxu 2y ago

Could you list few? I’ve stopped following media in general because everything I could find was profit maximisation through outrage and sensationalism. So I would really appreciate something that isn’t that.

janderson215 2y ago
Foreign Affairs is an exception I’ve recently discovered that seems to go for level-headed criticism versus a more panicky take. Here’s an example article: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/path-american-authoritarianism-trump https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/path-american-a...

jajko 2y ago

Please stop dragging rest of humanity to your side, there is no "we" in your camp, and I agree with OP in the meaning of his/her words. Its a net loss for humanity, as is all political correctness instead of objective truth which should always be pursued. Maybe a good idea on paper, but it failed to actually change anything or anybody, fringe people just got pushed into their own siloed groups and there is no coming back, thanx to 'media'. Now with ie US elections of gradually in Europe too we saw and see how all fringe quietly became majority at the end.