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OS X Lion was the most stable operating system I've ever used. Tbh, it's all downhill from there, every new release gets a little worse not to mention all the

OS X Lion was the most stable operating system I've ever used. Tbh, it's all downhill from there, every new release gets a little worse not to mention all the hardware issues too.

xp84 2y ago
I still remember in the late oughts, when Mac software updates came out (say, 10.x.1 or whatever, Safari updates, etc.) an app called Software Update would tell you about them, allow you to click to download and install what you wanted, the installation all happened in the background while you worked, and then at the end the SWU dock icon would bounce to prompt you to restart when ready. Guess what? quick option-right-click → Force Quit on the app would shut that up, then you could go about your day and reboot when you were ready. Today, the Mac harangues you every time you wake it about the updates, then to apply them, you must reboot immediately, and stare at various Apple logos and progress bars for an indeterminate amount of time (no estimates offered).
- goosedragons 2y ago
  Modern macOS updates take forever too. I had one clocked at 40 minutes! In that time I could reinstall Ubuntu 4x over.
  - frizlab 2y ago
    On what computer? Actual modern macOS updates takes some initial time indeed, but in the background! The reboot phase is not very long.
    - goosedragons 2y ago
      2018 MBP.
      - frizlab 2y ago
        Ha yeah, IIRC macOS updates on Intel are slower (and not only because of the processor and/or disk, but because of the whole architecture).
    - xp84 2y ago
      As far as I can tell, the updates that require a reboot don't do anything in the background now (prior to the reboot), besides downloading.
      - frizlab 2y ago
        They do much. They spend usually around 20 minutes doing stuff before rebooting.
kazinator 2y ago
I have VirtualBox VM of Lion. I use that for making 32 bit x86 builds of TXR for older Macs. (I ssh out to the Compile Farm for M1 on newer MacOS.)
Jyaif 2y ago
you are supposed to say it's snow leopard

OS X Lion was the most stable operating system I've ever used. Tbh, it's all downhill from there, every new release gets a little worse not to mention all the hardware issues too.

xp84 2y ago

I still remember in the late oughts, when Mac software updates came out (say, 10.x.1 or whatever, Safari updates, etc.) an app called Software Update would tell you about them, allow you to click to download and install what you wanted, the installation all happened in the background while you worked, and then at the end the SWU dock icon would bounce to prompt you to restart when ready. Guess what? quick option-right-click → Force Quit on the app would shut that up, then you could go about your day and reboot when you were ready. Today, the Mac harangues you every time you wake it about the updates, then to apply them, you must reboot immediately, and stare at various Apple logos and progress bars for an indeterminate amount of time (no estimates offered).

goosedragons 2y ago
Modern macOS updates take forever too. I had one clocked at 40 minutes! In that time I could reinstall Ubuntu 4x over.
- frizlab 2y ago
  On what computer? Actual modern macOS updates takes some initial time indeed, but in the background! The reboot phase is not very long.
  - goosedragons 2y ago
    2018 MBP.
    - frizlab 2y ago
      Ha yeah, IIRC macOS updates on Intel are slower (and not only because of the processor and/or disk, but because of the whole architecture).
  - xp84 2y ago
    As far as I can tell, the updates that require a reboot don't do anything in the background now (prior to the reboot), besides downloading.
    - frizlab 2y ago
      They do much. They spend usually around 20 minutes doing stuff before rebooting.

kazinator 2y ago

I have VirtualBox VM of Lion. I use that for making 32 bit x86 builds of TXR for older Macs. (I ssh out to the Compile Farm for M1 on newer MacOS.)

Jyaif 2y ago

you are supposed to say it's snow leopard