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First, there's hardly any evidence that these are anywhere near "brilliant engineers" let alone 1%. Their claims to "fame" were being interns or working on tigh
by alfalfasprout 2y ago
First, there's hardly any evidence that these are anywhere near "brilliant engineers" let alone 1%. Their claims to "fame" were being interns or working on tightly scoped greenfield projects. Some might be interesting, sure. But it's hardly relevant to operating in a complex organization.
But more importantly, the real issue is regardless of how old they are an unelected individual is doling out hyper-privileged access to sensitive data to folks without any kind of oversight. It's a total mess.
It's hyperbolic to the n-th degree to call these "the best of nerds" as well.
- crooked-v 2y ago> Their claims to "fame" were being interns or working on tightly scoped greenfield projects. And there's that one guy whose entire work history is as a summer camp counselor.
- mvkel 2y agoSure, and there's a sprinter who can outrun Usain Bolt who just happened to become an accountant instead
- jamala1 2y agoProbably still better than the non-technical people usually governing things.
- d4mi3n 2y agoAs many issues as we have, I’d rather have somebody who understands the consequences of a security breach having access to sensitive information than someone who does not. Think what you will about who came before or after, but everyone involved here should have experience or training in how to handle and secure sensitive information.
- raverbashing 2y ago[flagged]
- ban-evader 2y agoWhy is that? I would bet large sums of money that these guys will have a bright future ahead of them, much of it because of the goodwill they get from working for DOGE.
- chikere232 2y agoIt all depends on how persistent the new american system is. During the WW2 german occupation of France, there were some french people who opted to enthusiastically work to support the german side, and they certainly benefitted short term from the goodwill earned At the end of the occupation, a lot of them were shot or hanged by the resistance
- muddi900 2y agoThat is a fantastically chreky comment. 10/10 no notes
- raverbashing 2y agoAnd I reiterated that being good with computers is not a good predictor for how things work in highly-politicized government positions
- realusername 2y agoGoodwill from whom exactly? When the shit inevitably hits the fan from the massive amount of orgs they are dismantling, Musk and the DOGE will be used as a political scapegoat by Trump, that's how politics work. And then from that, taking responsibility has never been Musk strongest point either, he'll push back the blame further to DOGE workers.
- 4ndrewl 2y agoForgot the /s
- TacticalCoder 2y agoOne of the dude literally solved a hundreds years problem and won a prize. He coded an AI to decipher an ancient manuscript AIUI. I certainly wouldn't look down on the achievement of that young programmer.
- saagarjha 2y agoCan you explain why this makes him a good fit for doing government payroll?
- Klonoar 2y agoNone of which qualifies him for anything he’s doing here.
- laurent_du 2y agoBeing smart is a qualification.
- tsimionescu 2y agoThere is no such thing as "being smart". You can be arbitrarily good at some things, and arbitrarily bad at anything else. Even the greatest physicists can have laughably naive philosophical positions. Linus Paulding, one of the greatest minds in chemistry in history, was convinced that you can cure virtually any disease with a large enough dose of vitamin C. Expertise, even the extreme peak, in one field doesn't give you expertise of any kind in another field.
- whitepaint 2y agoThis is factually wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient
- tsimionescu 2y agoIQ is mostly BS. And even if it's not, it only measures the ability to learn, not the actual skills. What I wrote remains true: just because you have skills in one area (AI deciphering of hieroglyphics scroll), doesn't mean in any way whatsoever that you have skills for something entirely unrelated (administrative matters).
- zekrioca 2y ago100%
- gadders 2y ago[flagged]
- kelnos 2y agoAh yes, let's just make a sweeping generalization about 3 million people. I've met plenty of people in the private sector who I could easily describe as "the worst kind of bureaucrats". You really don't know what you're talking about.
- gadders 2y agoI'm sure there is the odd person that is above average, but most just sign on for an easy life and a gold plated pension.
- goldenManatee 2y agoI mean, Garry Tan has already been on Twitter with his stupid take that there are “brilliant” so it surely must be true. /s The Treasury has been taken over and barricaded, but please enlighten us Garry with fables of their 10x brilliance.
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- eterevsky 2y agoGovernment employees are never elected. They are hired by the elected officials. In this case the general public in the US was aware of DOGE before the election and chose to vote for it.
- orf 2y agoWhere specifically was it spelled out that DODGE would remove the free tax filing system?
- thebigspacefuck 2y agoDid they delete it? Elon said 18F, the group that developed DirectFile, was deleted. DirectFile appears to still be available. https://directfile.irs.gov/ https://directfile.irs.gov/
- niceice 2y agoRight. Why are people suddenly confused about this?
- exe34 2y agoI don't understand the "unelected" aspect - he funded Trump and Trump got elected. Trump said Elon would get to run a wrecking ball through the ship of state and the magas cheered. He derives his authority from Trump. A lot of people work at the white house and only one of them was elected.
- shipscode 2y agoHe’s surely the most public bureaucrat in history.
- GenerocUsername 2y agoBureaucrat is a misnomer. Think of him more as a reaper of souls
- uni_rule 2y agoHe's more of a lobotomized Jack Welch imo