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The ACA is just more of the same? Are you kidding me? Do you know how many lives that changed? No more pre-existing conditions? Literally before that if you los
by _DeadFred_ 2y ago
The ACA is just more of the same? Are you kidding me? Do you know how many lives that changed? No more pre-existing conditions? Literally before that if you lost your insurance you just died.
- g-b-r 2y agoAnd it was just a compromise with the republicans
- bmitc 2y agoIt was a Republican policy! From the 80s.
- _DeadFred_ 2y agoYou mean 'a Republican's (I.E. Mitt Romney) policy'. What a manipulative response. Republics hated it and fought against it.
- arp242 2y agoIt goes back a lot further; see e.g. https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2012/02/07/the-tortuous-conservative-history-of-the-individual-mandate/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2012/02/07/the-to... And Republicans fought against it because the wrong party/person proposed it.
- o11c 2y agoFor the majority of people, the ACA just meant "insurance has an excuse to raise premiums without end (far more than the number of new people covered)". There was some corporate trickery involved, but that doesn't matter to the individual who's paying more.
- _DeadFred_ 2y agoThe majority of people are very grateful of the coverage. The ACA is very popular if you call it something different (to move away from the propaganda) and explain the details.
- seanmcdirmid 2y agoThe ACA is popular, it is ObamaCare that is unpopular.
- tstrimple 2y agoI don’t know any serious person who could make these arguments without also acknowledging that premiums were increasing before the ACA. They typically won’t acknowledge that the rate of increase slowed down post ACA because then their entire argument falls apart.
- o11c 2y agoOkay, but even with that (though I really don't think there were >20% increases in any year prior to the ACA ...), all we get is my original point of "Obama promised change, but just provided more of the same."