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Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency
- cocacola1 2y ago> The systems include a vast database called Enterprise Human Resources Integration, which contains dates of birth, Social Security numbers, appraisals, home addresses, pay grades and length of service of government workers, the officials said. > "We have no visibility into what they are doing with the computer and data systems," one of the officials said. "That is creating great concern. There is no oversight. It creates real cybersecurity and hacking implications." This seems beyond bad.
- scarab92 2y ago[flagged]
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- an_guy 2y agoCan you provide source for your claim?
- Tadpole9181 2y agohttps://tennesseelookout.com/2025/01/30/tennessee-house-passes-immigration-enforcement-bill-aclu-plans-legal-challenge/ https://tennesseelookout.com/2025/01/30/tennessee-house-pass... > The bill’s passage came despite concerns over the constitutionality of a provision creating a Class E felony, punishable by up to 6 years in prison and a $3,000 fine, for any public official who votes in favor of so-called sanctuary policies.
- an_guy 2y agoIt was prohibited to create such policies since 2019[1]. They've increased punishment for offenders. You might want to read on what exactly changed[2] Besides Tennessee law prohibits creation of "sanctuary city" way before Trump came into power. [1] https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/Billinfo/default.aspx?BillNumber=HB2315&ga=110 https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/Billinfo/default.aspx?BillN... [2] https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=SB6002 https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillN...
- Tadpole9181 2y agoIt was prohibited to enact those policies. But that's performative, it has always been illegal to aid criminals. It's also technically illegal to sell weed in Colorado. This makes it illegal to vote. That's first amendment protected behavior and has long been precedent. And once they set the precedent they can make voting a particular way illegal, they'll apply that same law to more and more laws - and then they'll apply it to citizens (based on the SCOTUS ruling that legislators have the same first amendement right as citizens). Stop being a fascist apologist and pretending this behavior is normal. It is not God damn normal to outlaw voting a specific way. It's their job to represent their electorate and that's literally how we're supposed to change the system in democratic system. This is clearly a move to make it illegal to progressive.
- an_guy 2y agoI do have to agree punishing elected representative for voting is a slippery slope. But in this case, it didn't really change anything.
- darthwalsh 2y agoFrom your link: >making it a felony for public officials to back sanctuary policies. Saying "vote against Republicans" makes it sound like voting against any Trump policy is a crime.
- Tadpole9181 2y agoYes, I quoted that in a comment. I'm sorry, are you being a fascist apologist here? Is it remotely acceptable to make it a crime to vote a given way as a democratically elected representative? Once a single such law exists, it's now precedent we can do it anywhere. Such a law doesn't even exist for murder for obvious reasons.
- archagon 2y agoI'm sure this will be flagged soon enough, but people need to know that there is an unprecedented, hostile, and (seemingly) illegal blitzkrieg happening against the federal civil service. Doors are being barricaded. Strange servers are being installed by unknown individuals. People with decades of institutional experience are getting pushed out the door. First-hand accounts can be found here: https://old.reddit.com/r/fednews/ https://old.reddit.com/r/fednews/
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- archagon 2y agoRegardless of your thoughts about the size of the federal government, there is zero oversight to this "transition." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-federal-inspectors-general-fired/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-federal-inspectors-genera...
- mrits 2y agoI'm surprised they have learned to be efficient as the private sector is in mass purges
- billfor 2y agoThere's no way to have unbiased oversite. It was tried that way during his first term with limited sucess. Give this method a shot and if it breaks then it breaks and they try something different. This is the same "he's going to break twitter" crowd when 80% of the people were fired. Guess what, it kept running. The government will be fine. And the Chinese already have all our data.
- sundaeofshock 2y agoHe’s not fucking around with a social media website; this is the federal government with responsibility for trillions of dollars of spending. A small group of people were annoyed when Twitter was down for a few hours. I think the reaction will be much stronger when millions of US citizens miss a social security check or two.
- toomuchtodo 2y agoI chuckle when people were worried about China. The call is coming from inside the house. We have met the enemy and he is us.
- cyanydeez 2y agoIf anything, these billionaires are concerned that Chinese power is in it's ability to control its people and businesses and democracy gets in the way. Pure delusional greed of silver spoon tech incels.
- ge96 2y agowhy is that word used, this guy has like 9 kids
- cdme 2y agoHe also acts like a child. An uninspired edgelord like Musk shouldn't be in government.
- ge96 2y agoYeah I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm so sad the space guy has become this I've probably just been too poor/whole life, never rich but I can't imagine being that much of an ahole regarding not helping others but might is right... right I also believe in the premise of capitalism (getting paid for merit/work) but yeah when you get to that much money why do you keep going for more
- cdme 2y agoGreed, I suppose — or I suppose when you've stepped on enough people to get that rich you stop caring.
- ffsm8 2y agoDoesn't change the fact he cannot be involuntarily celibate after fathering 9 kids. The usage of the term in this vain is basically the same as if I called cyanydeez "retarded" over the usage of this term. A word with a negative connotation that inapplicable by definition, but used anyway because they consider people that are such to be lesser people.
- DiogenesKynikos 2y agoRunning the Federal government like a Silicon Valley startup - what could possibly go wrong?
- cdme 2y agoMusk should have nothing to do with governing. Period.
- tootie 2y agoThis guy decided to get into politics like 5 months ago and is now the second most powerful person in the world purely by dint of being extremely wealthy. He bought the US government and it was apparently a bargain at $250M.
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- butterlettuce 2y agoMeh, that seems like hyperbole to me. Doesn't a real coup involve the military going into federal buildings and rounding up congressmen from opposing parties and detaining them? Forgive me for not viewing it the same way. The news is focusing on the airplane right now.
- valbaca 2y agoa military coup is a type of coup, and a common one, but not the only Literally lookup the definition and you'll find out more
- tbatchelli 2y agoA military coup is a kind of coup, but not the only kind. This one, for example, is an auto-coup. Many coups don't look like one at first.
- nh23423fefe 2y ago[flagged]
- tootie 2y agoCoups do not require troops. They simple require the existing regime to be removed. Months ago, the leader of Project 2025 said a second Trump term would be "a second American Revolution" and "bloodless if the left allows it to be". https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/04/leader-of-the-pro-trump-project-2025-suggests-there-will-be-a-new-american-revolution-00166583 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/04/leader-of-the-pro-t...
- scarab92 2y ago[flagged]
- lz127HqgR 2y agoIt might be to prevent them from altering job and task descriptions in order to escape DEI purges. Let's hope they don't use a regex or an "AI" to decide whom to purge, but I would not be surprised.
- bananapub 2y agothis is...despite happening concurrently with a "democratic transition", a coup, which is going entirely unopposed by the legislature. this is ... beyond bad.
- jdgoesmarching 2y agoWhy is this flagged? This seems like a pretty damn important tech story.
- ks2048 2y agoIt was flagged, then un-flagged, now flagged again.
- lrae 2y agoBecause you have two parties of HN users that happily flag, which is enough. Those who are Trump supporters and those who just don't want any politics / the discussions surrounding it on HN. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Doesn't seem to be a duplicate, so dang might unflag it and remove the filter if he sees the thread.
- Redoubts 2y agoYou can always email dang about Flags you think are unjust. He's pretty responsive and fair. Just checkout the contact page linked at the bottom
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- nozzlegear 2y agoI wonder if the flagging/flame war detector is too aggressive for stories like this that blend the worlds of tech and politics. From my bystander PoV, it seems like the majority of interesting news stories like this one get flagged and killed despite a somewhat normal discussion in the comments. I know people want to pretend that politics don't belong on their tech/startup forum, but that's just ignoring the reality of how intertwined the two are at this point.
- archagon 2y agoWe are literally following Curtis Yarvin's playbook for toppling democracy right now: https://archive.is/iAtnM https://archive.is/iAtnM
- tmpz22 2y agoThis happened on Friday for a reason
- jauntywundrkind 2y agoThe massacres will increase until open society finds leverage to push back.