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Reading the comments here, it's clear that many have a less than favorable view of NordVPN. With that said, what VPN provider would readers here recommend? I do

Reading the comments here, it's clear that many have a less than favorable view of NordVPN. With that said, what VPN provider would readers here recommend? I don't know if there is a consensus for a "good VPN provider" that respects privacy, etc or if they are all shitty in one way or another.

JasonSage 2y ago
Mullvad
flarzzarp 2y ago
mullvad.net usually gets really high praise. I am not a user, but if i was looking for a vpn service, that's what I would personally get.
puppycodes 2y ago
Mullvad is the best setup ive seen, with the most accessible interface, and recently audited. The ability to pay with cash in the mail and login with just a generated ID is great. All VPNs require trust however.
- pseudalopex 2y ago
  And in some countries you can buy a scratch card if you don't want to use cryptocurrency or risk sending cash in the mail.
  - Arrowmaster 2y ago
    You can even buy them from Amazon. The cards don't have any sort of exposed code to scan when it gets sold to activate it like other gift cards. Nothing on them makes one identifiable from another until you scratch it off.
puppycodes 2y ago
Also many people forget its not just the VPN, its the combination of the VPN and your browser. There are many ways to unmask you even if the provider does everything right. They can't protect against attacks like dom battery monitoring, complex fingerprinting, UDP timing attacks, etc... read the Mullvad audit for more details. They cite the need to enable DAITA by default as a shortcoming. https://www.x41-dsec.de/static/reports/X41-Mullvad-Audit-Public-Report-2024-12-10.pdf https://www.x41-dsec.de/static/reports/X41-Mullvad-Audit-Pub...
cchance 2y ago
Mullvad
xwx 2y ago
Mullvad are the 'good VPN provider'. They make an effort to store as little customer info as possible, including getting rid of subscriptions to reduce payment information they have to keep [1]. Despite subscriptions being a great way of getting consistent revenue. As well as card, they allow payment in cash, crypto and quite a few others. They have open source clients and are one of few providers with an official client on F-Droid. They don't try to lock you in for years. It's €5 per month no matter how long you pay for. They have regular external audits. [2] If you read their website you'll find they focus on privacy rather than 'watching TV while you're on holiday'. [3][4] Mozilla use Mullvad for Firefox VPN. Tailscale have partnered with Mullvad. [5] [1] https://mullvad.net/en/blog/were-removing-the-option-to-create-new-subscriptions https://mullvad.net/en/blog/were-removing-the-option-to-crea... [2] https://mullvad.net/en/blog/tag/audits https://mullvad.net/en/blog/tag/audits [3] https://mullvad.net/en/why-privacy-matters https://mullvad.net/en/why-privacy-matters [4] https://mullvad.net/en/chatcontrol https://mullvad.net/en/chatcontrol [5] https://mullvad.net/en/help/partnerships-and-resellers https://mullvad.net/en/help/partnerships-and-resellers
WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
Mullvad or OVPN. The latter kept ThePirateBay safe for years.

JasonSage 2y ago

Mullvad

flarzzarp 2y ago

mullvad.net usually gets really high praise. I am not a user, but if i was looking for a vpn service, that's what I would personally get.

puppycodes 2y ago

Mullvad is the best setup ive seen, with the most accessible interface, and recently audited. The ability to pay with cash in the mail and login with just a generated ID is great. All VPNs require trust however.

pseudalopex 2y ago
And in some countries you can buy a scratch card if you don't want to use cryptocurrency or risk sending cash in the mail.
- Arrowmaster 2y ago
  You can even buy them from Amazon. The cards don't have any sort of exposed code to scan when it gets sold to activate it like other gift cards. Nothing on them makes one identifiable from another until you scratch it off.

puppycodes 2y ago

Also many people forget its not just the VPN, its the combination of the VPN and your browser. There are many ways to unmask you even if the provider does everything right. They can't protect against attacks like dom battery monitoring, complex fingerprinting, UDP timing attacks, etc... read the Mullvad audit for more details. They cite the need to enable DAITA by default as a shortcoming. https://www.x41-dsec.de/static/reports/X41-Mullvad-Audit-Public-Report-2024-12-10.pdf https://www.x41-dsec.de/static/reports/X41-Mullvad-Audit-Pub...

cchance 2y ago

Mullvad

xwx 2y ago

Mullvad are the 'good VPN provider'. They make an effort to store as little customer info as possible, including getting rid of subscriptions to reduce payment information they have to keep [1]. Despite subscriptions being a great way of getting consistent revenue. As well as card, they allow payment in cash, crypto and quite a few others. They have open source clients and are one of few providers with an official client on F-Droid. They don't try to lock you in for years. It's €5 per month no matter how long you pay for. They have regular external audits. [2] If you read their website you'll find they focus on privacy rather than 'watching TV while you're on holiday'. [3][4] Mozilla use Mullvad for Firefox VPN. Tailscale have partnered with Mullvad. [5] [1] https://mullvad.net/en/blog/were-removing-the-option-to-create-new-subscriptions https://mullvad.net/en/blog/were-removing-the-option-to-crea... [2] https://mullvad.net/en/blog/tag/audits https://mullvad.net/en/blog/tag/audits [3] https://mullvad.net/en/why-privacy-matters https://mullvad.net/en/why-privacy-matters [4] https://mullvad.net/en/chatcontrol https://mullvad.net/en/chatcontrol [5] https://mullvad.net/en/help/partnerships-and-resellers https://mullvad.net/en/help/partnerships-and-resellers

WarOnPrivacy 2y ago

Mullvad or OVPN. The latter kept ThePirateBay safe for years.