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Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car
- singpolyma3 2y agoIf you use the JMP eSIM Adapter you can use a fully open source app, or even your own build of the app or whatever you like.
- craftkiller 2y agoThank you! I came to the comments to find the most open version of this. Unfortunately, the JMP eSIM's order form is broken so I cannot purchase their device (it never asks for city/state and then the order form errors out with "City or state/province not specified")
- singpolyma3 2y agoIt seems that bringing up the city/state box after you enter zip code is being slow right now. if you wait a bit do they show up for you after entering zip code?
- craftkiller 2y agoYou're right! It took 7 minutes according to chrome dev tools but the state and city did eventually show up. Then my credit card's fraud protection declined the order so I had to go back and watch the spinner spin for another 5.2 minutes but I eventually was able to purchase one.
- singpolyma3 2y agosorry for the trouble. glad you got it to work.
- sunaookami 2y agoYou can use OpenEUICC with 9esim. They just rebrand it and publish it as their own thing. https://gitea.angry.im/PeterCxy/OpenEUICC https://gitea.angry.im/PeterCxy/OpenEUICC
- joeofbook 2y agoThey do not "just" rebrand it. OpenEUICC needs a rooted phone, while the provider-branded packages like EasyEUICC can run in user space (and thus needs to be signed with the corresponding hash). -----8<----- There are two variants of this project: OpenEUICC: The full-fledged privileged variant. Due to its privilege requirement, OpenEUICC must be placed inside /system/priv-app and be signed with the platform certificate. The preferred way to including OpenEUICC in a system image is to build it along with AOSP. Note: When privileged, OpenEUICC supports any eUICC chip that implements the SGP.22 standard, internal or external. However, there is no guarantee that external (removable) eSIMs actually follow the standard. Please DO NOT submit bug reports for non-functioning removable eSIMs. They are NOT officially supported unless they also support / are supported by EasyEUICC, the unprivileged variant. EasyEUICC: Unprivileged version that can run as a user app. This version supports two modes of operation: Inserted, removable eSIMs: Due to obvious security requirements, EasyEUICC is only able to access eSIM chips whose ARF/ARA contains the hash of EasyEUICC's signing certificate. USB CCID Card Readers: Only T=0 readers that use the standard USB CCID protocol are supported. In this mode, EasyEUICC can access any eSIM chip loaded in the card reader regardless of their ARF/ARA, as long as they implement the SGP.22 standard. Prebuilt release-mode EasyEUICC apks can be downloaded here For removable eSIM chip vendors: to have your chip supported by official builds of EasyEUICC when inserted, include the ARA-M hash 2A2FA878BC7C3354C2CF82935A5945A3EDAE4AFA
- sunaookami 2y agoTo the dead comment: No, OpenEUICC does not need a rooted phone. Mine is not rooted and it works.
- noname120 2y agoWrong. OpenEUICC requires a rooted phone or a custom ROM, while EasyEUICC can be installed anywhere. This is literally what the (previously-)dead comment says. The second part is a copy-paste from the project's README.
- yapyap 2y agoI like the initiative and I’m not against experimenting, it’s fun. But why would you ever want an eSIM in a SIM device, I’d assume it’s more often the other way around
- harha 2y agoOne announce with eSIM is that you can’t move them freely, despite being advertised as equivalent. Depending on the provider it can get quite complicated (physical visit in store, fees) to move to another device.
- londons_explore 2y agoCould one make an all-software sim card emulator which would enable this? Or does the esim spec have some kind of DRM to require you to use physical hardware with an embedded yet secret-to-you key?
- notpushkin 2y agoThere is SoftSIM, but I think it’s geared towards IOT applications: https://onomondo.com/product/softsim/ https://onomondo.com/product/softsim/
- gruez 2y ago>Or does the esim spec have some kind of DRM to require you to use physical hardware with an embedded yet secret-to-you key? Yes. Basically there's an accreditation process by the GSMA, and if your esim doesn't have a certificate chain leading back to GSMA, you won't be able to get your esim provisioned. https://media.ccc.de/v/camp2023-57190-demystifying_esim_technology https://media.ccc.de/v/camp2023-57190-demystifying_esim_tech...
- stavros 2y agoSorry, move them from what to what? Surely an eSIM isn't locked to the first phone I use it on?
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- PopAlongKid 2y agoI wish I knew if this would have helped me on a recent trip out of the U.S. In preparation, I upgraded my older, low-end smartphone to one with a more recent version of Android, NFC (for tap-to-pay), a headphone jack, and support for two physical SIMs. So when I arrived at my destination, I was able to purchase a 30-day SIM for a local phone number and data, but my primary SIM was useless outside of the U.S. so no access to my primary phone number (I ended up using WhatsApp a lot). My carrier (Boost Mobile) advertised an add-on for "Global Roaming", but despite non-trivial time spent reading and talking to them on the phone, I got merely a vague impression that only an eSIM would have allowed me to continue to use my primary number out of the country. Would this solution have worked for me? Meanwhile, I still have the (now deactivated) second SIM in my phone, hope that is not a security risk of some kind.
- doix 2y agoI really don't see the connection between an eSIM and your SIM not working abroad here. All an eSIM does is replace a physical one with a "digital" one. You'd still be using your carrier in these places. For your sim to work, your carrier would need to have agreements in place with providers in the country you're in. And then they'd charge you an extortionate amount of money to making any calls or use any data.
- gruez 2y agoHe's probably talking about how on iPhones[1] and some Androids[2], you can do something called "wifi calling using cellular data" or "backup calling", which basically enables you to roam for "free" on your one SIM by using wifi-calling over the data connection of the second SIM. It only triggers if the first SIM doesn't have any reception, but there's workarounds for that, but in any case it's not as simple as installing an eSIM and getting free roaming. [1] https://cdsassets.apple.com/live/7WUAS350/images/ios/ios-18-iphone-16-pro-dual-sim-control-center-second-line-using-cellular-data.png https://cdsassets.apple.com/live/7WUAS350/images/ios/ios-18-... [2] https://lemmy.world/post/58708 https://lemmy.world/post/58708
- goda90 2y agoAnother factor for international travel is whether you phone has the right bands to get signal. My carrier claims to have international roaming, but I look up what bands my model phone has and what the country I'm going to uses and I pretty much would not get signal anyway.
- notpushkin 2y agoThis is neat. I’ve only heard about ESTK [0] and sysmoEUICC by sysmocom [1]. ESTK supports a couple neat features, like cloud provisioning of profiles [2] (which makes it possible to add eSIM profiles on iPhone, too, not just Android). [0]: https://estk.me/ https://estk.me/ [1]: https://shop.sysmocom.de/sysmoEUICC1-eUICC-for-consumer-eSIM-RSP/sysmoEUICC1 https://shop.sysmocom.de/sysmoEUICC1-eUICC-for-consumer-eSIM... [2]: https://docs.estk.me/manual/download/cloud-enhance/index.html https://docs.estk.me/manual/download/cloud-enhance/index.htm...
- singpolyma3 2y agoNote cloud provisioning does require an active data esim profile on the card already
- lxgr 2y agoInteresting, do you know why that is the case? Does it use BIP as a communication channel, and the iPhone doesn't route that over Wi-Fi?
- singpolyma3 2y agocorrect
- ewuhic 2y agoI always wondered - can you have no roaming if you use eSIM with wifi calling and an exit node in country where eSIM is issued? So, basically: - you bought eSIM in Germany - you are currently in US - you use tailscale with exit node at your apartment in Germany - voila, no roaming when you call German mobile lines Right? [EDIT FOR ADDITIONAL QUESTION] If I have troubles receiving SMSs from Germany to German number while in US, would wifi calling icrease the chances of receiving the said SMSs?
- Ghoelian 2y agoAre there even roaming costs at all when calling over wifi? Would make sense to me if there weren't, since you're not using the mobile infrastructure you would be paying for. Then again I could also easily see telcos charging roaming anyway, just because they can.
- simtel20 2y agoThere's also a technical hurdle of the telco can't know where you're coming from over the Internet. The terminate your end of the vowifi call and from there they only charge for the connection as though it originated in their network, which is all they know for sure (that is their SIM and your account that's authenticated from somewhere in the world)
- lxgr 2y agoWell, I know at least one provider that looks at your IP's country registration and will block you if they believe it's not domestic: Vodafone Germany. I wouldn't wish their service upon my worst enemies.
- simtel20 2y agoSounds terrible. So yeah, I guess they can make an educated guess, and initiate a demoralizing cat and mouse game with their customers.
- miki123211 2y ago
- sunaookami 2y agoHaha what a coincidence, I bought a 9eSIM adapter a few weeks ago! There is a new eSIM-only card in Germany where you get 3 GB of data plus unlimited SMS and calls per month for free. To order it I had to use Frida and the Android emulator to fool the app into thinking the device had an eSIM. After that you have to do some JavaScript shenanigans on the website to get the QR code. But after that, everything works flawlessly with the eSIM adapter. The card is called "GMX FreePhone".
- Lanolderen 2y agoThanks for mentioning the provider.
- fullspectrumdev 2y agoHow much registration is required? I can see this being useful for some things :)
- dkjaudyeqooe 2y agoIt requires that you give them your bank account details. The stated reason is because you can call premium services and run up a charges even with a free service.
- sunaookami 2y agoYeah this, and you need to give them your full address because you have to enter a code that is sent via (physical) mail. Also it has the "Datenautomatik" enabled by default where new data packages are bought automatically when the limit is reached but you can turn this off (it's on by default).
- briodf 2y ago3GB of Data + Unlimited SMS and Calls for free sounds very nice? Can you share the name of the provider so that we can add it to our eSIM comparison for Germany https://www.monito.com/en/esim-plans-compared https://www.monito.com/en/esim-plans-compared
- oniony 2y agoWas "the SIM's packaging" not just an original credit-card sized SIM? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_card#Full-size_SIM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_card#Full-size_SIM, with punch-outs for newer formats?
- arccy 2y agoi think it meant the rims for the punch outs were the best for keeping a nano sim in the reader stable (which presumably took one of the larger formats).
- TheJoeMan 2y agoIs there any effort towards enabling increased privacy against tracking by "rotating" eSIMs amongst a group of individuals? The article mentions capacity for 50 profiles, what would be the legal and/or implementation effects of such a Local-Profile-Agent?
- gruez 2y agoYou can't transfer eSIMs between devices. iPhones support "transfers" but in reality it involves the carrier reissuing it. You'd have to transfer the physical device, which is going to be a pain.
- miohtama 2y agoAFAIK Only the eSIM issuer can do this. I did it once, it involved the eSIM issuer support emailing me a new QR code.
- maxloh 2y agoWhat prevents you from doing that? Is an activated eSIM linked to the device's MAC address, making it impossible to use with a different device? If that is the case, what would happen if we transferred the MAC address along with the eSIM? (assuming you have a jailbroken/rooted phone)
- gruez 2y ago>Is an activated eSIM linked to the device's MAC address, making it impossible to use with a different device? After an esim is "activated" it's bound to the esim chip. By design, you can't copy it onto another esim chip or device. If you want to transfer devices, you need to ask your carrier to issue you another esim.
- Gormo 2y agoWhat if you use a solution like the one described in the article, and physically swap the SIM card to another device?
- TechDebtDevin 2y agoThis seems like it might be useful for web scraping. Ive been having a munch easier time scraping/ not having to buy proxies since moving to strictly 5G modems. Something like this might help get past the two sim limit on both devices.
- mateuszbuda 2y agoYou can use a USB hub (example with 20 ports: https://www.sipolar.com/product/a-805p-20-ports-usb-2-0-hub/ https://www.sipolar.com/product/a-805p-20-ports-usb-2-0-hub/) and attach multiple USB dongles to it. This blog post describes a setup for web scraping: https://scrapingfish.com/blog/byo-mobile-proxy-for-web-scraping https://scrapingfish.com/blog/byo-mobile-proxy-for-web-scrap...
- wkat4242 2y agoHmm that's kinda nice. I don't like eSIMs because the provider often imposes arbitrary constraints. Either needing their data-stealing app, only allowing so many changes per month, only allowing 'certified' handsets, having 2FA bullshit etc. I just want to swap my number into different phones like I can with a physical card, without anyone else's involvement or approval. If I could just grab an esim and download it onto a physical card that would be great.
- herbst 2y agoI have a 5ber.esim that appears to be exactly that.
- gruez 2y ago>Either needing their data-stealing app that's only needed on non-rooted Android, due to security restrictions imposed by android. OP even mentions using an open source tool (lpac) with his esim adapter.
- lxgr 2y agoWhat country is this, if you mind sharing? I've never encountered any of these problems. I've received almost all my eSIMs as a QR code, and the ones that did offer app-based installation (which is convenient if it works, but ultimately not more than that) have a QR code for fallback. > only allowing so many changes per month That I have actually encountered. I've seen one (fortunately only when traveling) that actually charges a "SIM fee" for each new eSIM profile installed, and they don't allow reinstalls of my initial one... Charging for a new eSIM is dubious even if a profile is reinstallable, but it's less of an issue for me, as I'd only have to do that if I lose a phone, or it fails to a point where I can no longer remove the installed eSIMs so that I can redownload them on another one.
- aaron695 2y ago[dead]
- RicoElectrico 2y agoTransitioning to eSim-only could enslave us even further, as if Windows 11 secure boot shenanigans were not enough. Please raise this with your favorite digital freedom advocate. Let's be proactive on this one.
- sofixa 2y ago> Transitioning to eSim-only could enslave us even further, as if Windows 11 secure boot shenanigans were not enough How are eSIMs "enslaving" people? Or for that matter, Windows 11 secure boot? There's plenty to complain about in Windows 11 from a privacy perspective, but secure boot is your problem?
- RicoElectrico 2y agoEven media created with MS's own USB imager didn't work with my DIY build. May be related to Asus' UEFI but there's no proper diagnostic facility to know. I said screw it, and used Rufus to bypass any MS nonsense at the same time. And how? The same way SIM locks did. EU made them illegal not without reason.
- sofixa 2y ago> And how? The same way SIM locks did. EU made them illegal not without reason. SIM locks were for operators to lock phones they sell you only to their network. You can install any eSIM, including from random MVNOs all around the world.
- lxgr 2y agoYeah, I really hate not having to physically juggle small smartcards whenever I want to use another network/provider (my phone has several eSIM profiles installed right now), being able to choose from dozens of providers competing on price and functionality, and not having to stand in line at the SIM store first thing after a long-haul flight too. eSIMs could have been an anti-consumer nightmare, but fortunately they were really done exactly right. I really sometimes find it hard to believe how lucky we got on that one; they could have easily been a carrier lock-in mechanism like ESN/MEID based provisioning was. > Let's be proactive on this one. Even if you had a point, you're years too late. iPhones are sold without a SIM slot in some countries already (and I love it).
- hintymad 2y agoI wonder if there's a reversed solution: using physical SIM card on devices that have only eSIMs. The use case: recent fewer versions of iPhone support only eSIMs, yet we will need a physical sim when traveling in China (yes yes, one could use roaming. It's just that with a China phone number, one can do more).
- lxgr 2y agoIt apparently can be done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twFC0A_m0KI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twFC0A_m0KI Supposedly the people doing this at scale (for grey imports?) even de-solder the eSIM module and resell it, but I have my doubts about that part of the story.
- 05 2y agoSure you can do it if there’s a module to desolder, but many phones will just use TrustZone/Secure Enclave and you’re not desoldering that…
- lxgr 2y agoAre there any TrustZone based eSIM implementations yet? I've heard about plans for a couple of times but haven't been following that closely. I'm not sure if iPhones still have a physical module; it would make a lot of sense for Apple to combine the eSIM implementation with the payments secure element (I think they hold some patents to that extent), but I'm not sure if they already do that.
- rendaw 2y agoWhy do you need a physical sim in China? Are there just no esim providers? Or is it something deeper?
- jtokoph 2y agoApparently there aren't any eSIMs in China that include a phone number. I'm not sure why. I think this is why Apple releases the latest iPhones with physical SIM trays in China while the latest iPhones in North America are eSIM only
- everdrive 2y agoDoes anyone have any resources which explain why eSIMs tunnel your network traffic to the provider? My mental model for old fashioned physical SIMs is that they would roam on the network you're visiting. ie, a Chinese physical SIM on a US network would show up from the US network, and would otherwise be normal except that the phone and network traffic would be very expensive. My understanding of eSIMs is that they act more like a VPN; your network (and phone?) traffic is tunneled back to the home network.
- lxgr 2y ago> My mental model for old fashioned physical SIMs is that they would roam on the network you're visiting. No, that's never really been the case. It's technically possible (and called "local breakout"), but for various reasons I also don't fully understand, it's usually not done that way. One is legal liability for user actions; another is accessibility of services at home, such as banking apps, that are probably more comfortable with a familiar IP.
- SSLy 2y agoThat's not ordered by the SIM but by the packet-core network policies set by both parties.
- daveoc64 2y agoIt's not really anything to do with eSIM. If you used a physical SIM from the same carrier with the same settings, you'd have the same experience. When connecting via a cellular data network, all data will be routed via your carrier's Access Point Name (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Point_Name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Point_Name). Most carriers only have servers in their home region capable of handling the traffic. It is possible to have regional servers for this, but most carriers don't bother with the expense. Roaming data is usually expensive or restricted in usage - so there's traditionally been very little demand for higher speed connectivity. Travel eSIMs are usually just a regular SIM with a very limited plan from a carrier that has favourable roaming deals.
- everdrive 2y ago
- daft_pink 2y agoHoping for the opposite option. Using physical sims for devices that only support esim?
- dustypotato 2y agoCurious on what you think the advantage there is ? If you lose your phone , you don't lose your number if it's an eSIM
- priyanmuthu 2y agoI would love to use the GoogleFi data only SIM on my iPad. But the Fi doesn't provide data only eSIM, and my iPad cannot have physical SIM slots.
- daft_pink 2y agoChinese carriers don’t support eSIM. Not an advantage. A necessity unfortunately.
- Fischgericht 2y agoIn case the original author reads this: Depending on what 4G/LTE modem/chip your laptop it is using (it must be based on a Qualcomm SoC which 99% are), there are and I can share documents on how you can do the provisioning directly on the Laptop the SIM card is in. The feature is present in the stock Qualcomm firmware bundle, but vendors like Quectel, Sierra etc may decide if they include the feature or not. I know this because it is on our dev team To-Do List to implement that for a Linux daemon :)
- neil_neilzone 2y ago> In case the original author reads this He has :) > there are and I can share documents on how you can do the provisioning directly on the Laptop the SIM card is in. Yes, please!
- Fischgericht 2y agoDone.
- jaeckel 2y agoI'd be very much interested in those documents. You can reach me via mail to s at username dot eu TIA
- Fischgericht 2y agoI'll clean up the stuff so I can not be identified as the leaker and send it to you.
- GoldfishTank 2y agoNot the OP, but I would appreciate any docs you could share. I have an email in my profile. Thank you!
- Fischgericht 2y agoSent.
- porphyra 2y agoI'm interested in solving the opposite problem: using physical SIMs with devices that only have eSIM. This is extremely important when going to mainland China as physical SIMs are required there.
- Elucalidavah 2y agoUsing an eSIM data on a physical sim is relatively straightforward; getting the keys from a physical SIM to use as an eSIM is relatively non-trivial, as "the card is designed to never divulge this key to the outside world".
- kccqzy 2y agoIt sounds like a regular SIM is more secure than an eSIM. Are there any implications to the user?
- Elucalidavah 2y agoThere doesn't seem to be that much extra attack surface: https://security.stackexchange.com/a/271953 https://security.stackexchange.com/a/271953 With an eSIM activation, the only possibility is that someone else e.g. reads the QR code from your screen and activates the eSIM on their device; but you'll notice that since eSIM activation will fail on your end, and will likely request a new one. But that does provide some window for a targeted attack. With a physical SIM, there's a much easier attack available, in form of extracting the SIM itself from your phone. It isn't a remote attack, but it might even take you longer to notice. Arguably, an operator's support of remote eSIM activation (whether you use it or not) is the biggest attack vector, since it allows an attacker to impersonate you and request a new eSIM.
- porphyra 2y agoI wonder if there's a way to use a dongle (or a small wireless Bluetooth device or something) to connect a physical SIM to a phone that doesn't have a physical SIM slot.
- pxh21 2y agoIs this a knockoff of https://esim.me/ https://esim.me/ ?
- smoovb 2y agoYes. But esim.me high prices, clunky kyc and other issues left plenty of room for competitors.
- mfkp 2y agoThese have been around for a while. Alternatives: https://esim.5ber.com/ https://esim.5ber.com/ https://esim.me/ https://esim.me/ https://jmp.chat/esim-adapter https://jmp.chat/esim-adapter
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- stavros 2y agoWhich one is the best of these? Do they work in every country? I can't tell if the do some internet-connected magic or if they just program the SIM so that it appears like a bog-standard SIM to the phone.
- mfkp 2y agoI've personally never tried since my phone supports e-sim but people on the internet report good findings with the 5ber card (note that you need the "Ultra" card for iPhone, the other ones are android only).
- stavros 2y agoThank you!
- Mogzol 2y agoI use an esim.me card in my phone and once you program the card with the esim.me app, it shows up as a normal physical sim card on the phone with whatever plan the esim was for. I believe you can even move it to another device and it will still show up with the same plan, though I haven't tried that. The only issue I've had with it is that some esim provider apps refuse to work on a phone that doesn't have esim capabilities, and since the phone sees the card as a normal sim card, the apps don't work. I assume that will be an issue for any of these cards. Not a huge issue though, most esim apps/websites will still let you get the QR code or download the profile even if your phone doesn't natively support esim, and you just enter that into the esim.me app to program the card.
- josephcsible 2y agoPreviously, https://www.androidauthority.com/esim-adapter-android-phone-3480601/ https://www.androidauthority.com/esim-adapter-android-phone-... said "While there are other eSIM adapters, the JMP adapter is the only one that doesn’t use a proprietary, closed source app." Is that still true, or is this one now a second FOSS option?
- singpolyma3 2y agoI have not been able to find the source for the 9esim app, but it is derived from the code for the JMP app so they are pretty similar I think.
- pishpash 2y agoNeed the other way around, an eSIM emulator for a physical SIM card.
- SXX 2y agoIs there no chinese knock-off SIM yet that let you change IDs and efficiently backup eSIM keys? That one would be actually a cool product.
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- mbesto 2y agoTangentially related - I recently got the holy grail of eSIM travel router setup: - GLiNet Mudi v2: https://store.gl-inet.com/products/mudi-v2-portable-4g-lte-router-travel-wifi-gl-e750v2 https://store.gl-inet.com/products/mudi-v2-portable-4g-lte-r... - EIOT Physical eSim https://store.gl-inet.com/products/esim-experience-seamless-connectivity-with-gl-inet-esim?_pos=1&_psq=esim&_ss=e&_v=1.0 https://store.gl-inet.com/products/esim-experience-seamless-... - 20GB Worldwide Airalo for 365 days ($69): https://www.airalo.com/global-esim/discover-365days-20gb https://www.airalo.com/global-esim/discover-365days-20gb Buy the airalo esim on my iphone. Download the QR code. Upload it to the mudi router. Activate it there. Voila! I then wireguard back to my home internet in case I need a US on the router. Can also use tailscale, but if my gf wants US internet its helpful. https://docs.gl-inet.com/router/en/4/tutorials/how_to_set_up_esim/ https://docs.gl-inet.com/router/en/4/tutorials/how_to_set_up...
- mjrpes 2y agoSo would you not even need a plan for your phone and could do all voice/text/data through this device? Just keep it it with you at all times and running 24/7?
- brotchie 2y agoNice, thanks for the reccomendations, the Mudi V2 looks great. Any limitations / bumps in the road, or it "just works"?
- mbesto 2y agoYes! I had to flash it with beta firmware since the eSim Manager disappears using Airalo. https://dl.gl-inet.com/release/router/testing/e750/4.3.21 https://dl.gl-inet.com/release/router/testing/e750/4.3.21 Fixed the problem that esim manage page is lost after installing some esim profiles.
- Fnoord 2y agoI own a Mudi v1, it is Chinese and 'just runs OpenWrt' (with mods). I had to use such device for a previous job (not w/eSIM tho). Battery life was good, but now not so much, and battery isn't user replaceable.
- stavros 2y agoDoes this reader allow cloning an existing SIM into this bought SIM, or what does it do if not that?
- BonoboIO 2y agoI would love to have a simple device out of the box that can receive sms and send them via api to a Webserver. Just with my own SIM card, or even multiple SIM cards. I m working on a diy solution with cheap sim800c usb modems but it’s just not that good.
- p2detar 2y agoI wish I could do it the other way around. I got a SIMcard I really want to use but the provider does not do eSIM.
- dlenski 2y agoAlmost the entirety of the enthusiasm for this post is based on people running crippled OSes (iOS, mainly) which won't let you tunnel 100% of traffic over a VPN.
- arschfick 2y ago[dead]
- noname120 2y agoI'm glad that there is finally some competition for esim.me and its scammy business practices