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The straight up "shout out" in the pop-up, I almost couldn't believe my eyes. I don't think I've seen anything like it in a long time. I also don't think an A
by robswc 2y ago
The straight up "shout out" in the pop-up, I almost couldn't believe my eyes.
I don't think I've seen anything like it in a long time. I also don't think an American company would ever do that as it seems "unprofessional." Ironically, it probably got them huge bonus points so they know what they're doing.
- notahacker 2y agoI mean, the promise to boosting Trump in the popup is probably literally what got them the promise of an executive order, possibly with the suggestion that if they wanted to stay on Trump's good side they'd best ensure their algorithm was Trump-friendly in future.
- cycrutchfield 2y agoOf course, everything he does is quid pro quo. Now he has a sword of damocles he can hang over their head to ensure he can get anything he wants in the future.
- scotty79 2y agoBesides, China doesn't mind propping Trump as they correctly see him as a simpleton who is going to delay USA development by a decade.
- cycrutchfield 2y agoHow remarkable that our major geopolitical enemies (with the exception of Iran) support our incoming president. He must truly be a great uniter that will usher in a new age of global peace.
- samr71 2y ago[flagged]
- cycrutchfield 2y agoAh ok, enlightened one. I’m sure the trough you feed from is propaganda-free. Care to explain why they are not actually our enemies? Please try to stick to facts and evidence.
- bdangubic 2y agohe will usher new age of global peace as much as my fat neighbour will not eat the cake for his birthday
- whimsicalism 2y agonot only has tiktok done this before, uber & lyft & doordash did it in california in the lead up to elections
- pests 2y agoI have no issue with American companies trying to change American policies.
- mostlysimilar 2y agoCorporations and their wealthy owners have an outsized influence on policies to the near total exclusion of everyday people. Not sure what future you're envisioning here but you might want to consider where you fall in the pecking order before bending the knee to blatant oligarchy.
- spacechild1 2y agoYou have no issues with corporate influence on US politics?
- intended 2y agoI think the commenter was choosing between american vs non american influence in US politics. Not between corporate influence and no corporate influence.
- ternnoburn 2y agoI believe the patent was highlighting an additional issue and providing a pretty clear follow up question. Not equating the two questions.
- spacechild1 2y agoThey literally said > I have no issue with American companies trying to change American policies. For me that's a naive stance that ignores the problem of corporate influence on politics. Apart from that, how is US corporate influence necessarily better than foreign corporate influence? Neither care about the US general public. Some US companies knowingly harm their own citizens (Philip Morris, Exxon, Purdue, etc.) One can argue the problem with TikTook is that it's controlled by the government of an adversary nation (from the viewpoint of the US), but it's not just the fact that the company resides in a foreign country.
- creato 2y ago> I don't think I've seen anything like it in a long time. I also don't think an American company would ever do that as it seems "unprofessional." Have you been paying attention the last few weeks? NVIDIA: https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/ai-policy/ https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/ai-policy/ "As the first Trump Administration demonstrated, America wins through innovation, competition and by sharing our technologies with the world — not by retreating behind a wall of government overreach." Companies aren't stupid. They know that in order to be successful in today's world, you have to personally fellate Trump. Thanks to the American voters for bringing us this reality.
- whimsicalism 2y ago[flagged]
- diggan 2y agoWith other words, while Silicon Valley founders said and pushed that they actually have ethics, morality and "good for the world" ideas, it wasn't actually true and money+extreme capitalism won in the end.
- whimsicalism 2y agoDemocrats decided they did not like the results of the “anyone can talk to anyone” social media revolution. I think they should have tried to adapt, they decided to focus their efforts on putting the genie back in the bottle. Technological progress has made us more affluent and better off. My father grew up in Europe and his family couldn’t even afford shoes for him or education past the third grade. I am wholly uninterested in anti-tech politics or a politics of stagnancy as seems popular in Europe. Democrats need to stop looking to Europe for inspiration and become the party of abundance, redistribution, and human capital investment. How can we make everyone better off, rather than focusing our energies on finding the next bogeyman to blame.
- metabagel 2y ago
- pjc50 2y agoThey're Chinese. They know how to handle a shakedown by Party officials: it needs both bribes and flattery.
- moshun 2y agoDamn, this is the simplest, most accurate breakdown on what’s actually happening that I’ve come across. The incoming administration is pretty transparent in the bend toward corruption, and these folks know exactly how to manage that as a business challenge.
- undersuit 2y ago[flagged]
- Aloisius 2y agoI think they're referring to nationality not ethnicity. Chinese nationals know how to deal with Party officials because necessary to get ahead in China, not because it's some racial trait.
- pjc50 2y agoYes, that was my intention.
- undersuit 2y agoI still object to this being a trait of Chinese people or citizens of China.
- sadeshmukh 2y agoChinese government certainly
- kelnos 2y agoIn that case perhaps detail why you believe it isn't how the Chinese government operates?
- bramhaag 2y agoThe relevant part of the pop-up: > We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office. Additionally, an extract from TikTok's later statement [1]: > In agreement with our service providers, TikTok is in the process of restoring service. We thank President Trump for providing the necessary clarity and assurance to our service providers that they will face no penalties providing TikTok to over 170 million Americans and allowing over 7 million small businesses to thrive. What the fuck? That's some incredible bootlicking by TikTok. They've done a great job making Biden seem like the bad guy for banning TikTok, while Trump saves the day by rescuing them. This is especially ironic considering Trump was the one who wanted to introduce the ban in the first place until he gained 15M followers on the platform. [1] https://xcancel.com/TikTokPolicy/status/1881030712188346459 https://xcancel.com/TikTokPolicy/status/1881030712188346459
- bigstrat2003 2y ago[flagged]
- bramhaag 2y agoPlease don't put words in my mouth, I did not comment on who bears the most responsibility for the ban. It is undeniable that Trump laid the groundwork for it though: July 7, 2020 - Secretary of State Mike Pompeo considers banning TikTok: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53319955 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53319955 July 31, 2020 - Donald Trump wants to ban TikTok and will not allow ByteDance to sell the platform to an American tech company: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/31/tech/tiktok-trump-bytedance-sale/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/31/tech/tiktok-trump-bytedan... August 3, 2020 - Donald Trump backpedals and allows ByteDance to sell the platform to an American tech company: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/aug/03/tiktok-row-trump-to-take-action-soon-says-pompeo-as-microsoft-pursues-deal https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/aug/03/tiktok-ro... August 6, 2020 - Donald Trump declares a national emergency based on the information TikTok collects: https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-addressing-threat-posed-tiktok/ https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/ex...
- nimbius 2y ago[flagged]
- Prbeek 2y agoI love how the US government had exempted US government accounts from the ban.. Lmaooo
- SketchySeaBeast 2y ago> The problem is most readers still think theres a discernable difference between the parties. I will give you excellent odds we're going to immediately see a definite difference between presidencies here.
- ternnoburn 2y agoAre you familiar with Malcolm X's speech about the fox and the wolf? Given the past four years have seen things like shutting down labor strikes, support foreign wars, expanding arctic drilling at record pace, increased police budgets, erosion of women's rights, erosion of lgbtq rights, and a steady increase in corporate power... I think the difference we'll see is in degree, not in direction.
- SketchySeaBeast 2y agoSo that's a discernable difference. I'm wondering what LGBTQ rights were eroded under democratic governments.
- bokoharambe 2y agoNumerous pieces of anti-trans and anti-LGBTQ legislation have passed at a state level under the Biden presidency. You might argue that that's outside of the purview of the federal government, but that certainly wasn't the case in the 50s and 60s where federal military force was used to enforce civil rights legislation. The federal government failing to use its sovereign power is 100% erosion of rights.
- laidoffamazon 2y agoThis is the prologue to a potentially dark time in American history
- weaksauce 2y agoworld* history
- copperx 2y agoAh, the propaganda GUI element. I distinctly remember covering it in my HCI class. Right between 'How to Design Intuitive Interfaces' and 'How to Influence Favorability Ratings with Popups.'
- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoI agree they know what they are doing by manipulating or perhaps secretly enriching Trump. He posted on Truth social that he is seeking 50% US ownership. That’s very odd. Why not 51% so that there is US based voting control? Or full divesture from China as the law requires? And then there’s the fact that the conditions for an extension aren’t met as written in the law. There’s no way he can certify to Congress that the conditions are met, which is why he’s trying to use an executive order. But that’s illegal.
- addicted 2y agoThey didn’t need to turn off in the first place. The Biden administration had already said they wouldn’t impose any fines. This was literally nothing but a political play intended to give Trump a boost.
- extheat 2y agoThe Biden administration signed the thing into law. Of course they need to comply. And people are acting as if somehow TikTok decided to self-ban and have now un-banned. No, it's only those with the app already installed that are able to continue to use it. It's still blocked on the app stores, and will presumably stay that way until tomorrow.
- arandomusername 2y agoThen why did they sign the law?
- bamboozled 2y agoWhen have you ever seen anything like it in the past ?
- Levitz 2y agoAfter the ban, Pornhub displayed a message asking people to contact their state representatives. I reckon it's a self-interest thing.
- richrichie 2y ago[flagged]
- fassssst 2y agoIt’s like America is rapidly turning into 90’s Russia and people are cheering for it.