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The kids flocking to another Chinese app just to avoid using Reels, Shorts, or whatever abomination is on X continues to be so funny to me. Looks like a long ga
by hb-robo 2y ago
The kids flocking to another Chinese app just to avoid using Reels, Shorts, or whatever abomination is on X continues to be so funny to me. Looks like a long game of whack a mole starting.
- EA-3167 2y agoIt isn't really whack-a-mole though, because despite the media coverage there is no "TikTok ban bill." Instead it's a "Hostile nation can't own majority stakes in media companies in the US" bill, and this SCOTUS ruling sets the precedent that can be enforced on as many entities as required. On a more amusing note the Chinese did NOT expect a bunch of Americans to show up on RedNote, and they're not thrilled so far. It seems that sharing details of how to organize labor unions, protest against your government, 3D print weapons, and so on wasn't what they were hoping for either. There's allegedly talk of them siloing off the new joins from abroad.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoSo how big does Rednote need to be to "majority stakes in media companies in the US"? I don't like this ruling at all, but it feels very American to see another looming threat and say "well, I'll just wait until it gets too big to deal with it".
- EA-3167 2y agoIt qualifies already, but I really doubt it's going to take off for many reasons. It isn't TikTok, the CCP has a much heavier hand there (ask the kids who ran into a 48 hour review period for their posts), and frankly I don't think the CCP is going to appreciate a bunch of mostly young, leftist teens sharing their ideas with Chinese people. The reaction to "Here's how you can organize a union/3D print a gun" has been hilariously predictable.
- ok123456 2y agohttps://www.xiaohongshu.com https://www.xiaohongshu.com
- diggan 2y agoAm I missing something obvious, or is that only available in one language? How do American teenagers use that? Don't get me wrong, I consumed American media and played American video games before I understood English, so clicking around eventually led you down some path. But isn't most of that content meant to be consumed by people who understand the language said content is made with?
- ok123456 2y agoYou install the app, and can set the language.
- internetter 2y agoWhile this is true, the translation is quite poor and not all parts of the app are translated.
- ok123456 2y agoIt's good enough.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoGiven the slop people are dealing with, I'm sure some people feel right at home.
- enragedcacti 2y agoMostly just lots of translation. Lots of American and Chinese users are putting translations directly into posts and comments to make it easier for others.
- taylodl 2y agoThe funny this is American teens may start learning Mandarin as a result of this ill-advised ban, which is exactly what the US government doesn't want!
- diggan 2y agoAny parent (and even us non-parents who've spent a lot of time around kids) know that the best way to get teenagers to stop doing something, is to start doing it yourself. If you forbid them to do something, it's basically inviting them to try their hardest to do it anyways.
- ok123456 2y agoThere are tons of people over 30, 40, 50 even over 90 on TikTok.
- Etheryte 2y agoThat's true, but proportionally they're a vast minority.
- echelon 2y agoThe algorithm segregates based on physical features, which can make sure they don't see one another with frequency. It's known to use facial recognition to boost videos of "beautiful people". https://www.dexerto.com/tiktok/tiktoks-algorithm-prioritizes-beautiful-people-according-to-leaked-documents-2953018/ https://www.dexerto.com/tiktok/tiktoks-algorithm-prioritizes...
- ok123456 2y agoNot true at all. I see people of all ages.
- hellojesus 2y agoIt is likely targetted at specific demographics.
- ok123456 2y ago12-year-olds probably aren't getting the same 10-minute videos of auto insurance adjusters taking exceptional calls that I am. But they might if they're precocious.
- xnyan 2y agoThe big one is called RedNote, and it's actually fairly well done.
- NickC25 2y agoThe irony of Americans flocking to a CCP-approved app whose Chinese name is translated to "little red book" is just a bit too on-the-nose. For those who don't know, Little Red Book is also the literature spread during the Cultural Revolution in China that was a collection of quotes and sayings by Chairman Mao. There's gotta be a joke in there about the communists selling the capitalists the rope the capitalists eventually hang themselves with. But, I digress.
- hb-robo 2y agoOh, wasn't meant at any dig in terms of quality, I don't believe in that kind of characterization. Besides, ostensibly, Chinese developers have been much more successful in this space and seem to deliver better products. I just wouldn't know myself as I stay off of shortform video platforms.
- gambiting 2y agoThe meme I'm seeing everywhere is that with so many Americans joining RedNote, Americans are discovering how much Chinese people are paying for healthcare, food or property, and Chinese people are discovering things like 40 hour work weeks and actually having a holiday from time to time - so now the question is whether US or China bans it first.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoDoes China not have holidays? Us isn't great there with a total of 7 federally recognized holidays.
- gambiting 2y agoThe 666 workweek(6 days a week 6 am till 6pm) is definitely real in some companies and it's a big problem with work culture especially in tech. But in general I'm sure they do holidays.
- nujabe 2y agoCan confirm. I had no idea about RedNote till my 18yo niece sent me a link to download it.
- nickthegreek 2y agoUnder a million kids moving over to RedNote for a week or 2 means nothing. There is no whack a mole. Tiktok algo is the sauce, nothing else has the sauce. People enjoyed the sauce.
- skyyler 2y agoXiaohongshu has better sauce than youtube shorts or instagram reels. Using Chinese social media is cool now.
- stevenhubertron 2y agoFor a 1MM kids, not for 169MM others. They will go where there is the least friction which is likely a Meta or Alphabet product.
- skyyler 2y ago>They will go where there is the least friction which is likely a Meta or Alphabet product. Fortunately, I think you're wrong about this. American children will be saying mandarin catchphrases before they start using Instagram Reels.
- tjpnz 2y agoJust not if you're gay.
- ternnoburn 2y agoBy all accounts, RedNote is hugely gay, with many people talking about how it's full of gay Chinese folks looking to connect with people.
- skyyler 2y agoMisinformation. I've seen plenty of gay people on there. Including myself and my partner.
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- ajross 2y agoThe Red Note nonsense is just a meme, somewhat fittingly. First, because the only place you see coverage of all the "kids flocking" is... on TikTok itself. It's always a red (heh) flag when your source for big important events comes only from the affected parties. But secondly because Red Note is subject to exactly the same regulation as TikTok, for exactly the same reason. There's no protection or loophole there, this app is just a district court injunction away from a ban too. Literally no one cares, they just love to meme.
- vehemenz 2y agoI think it's a troubling sign that American cultural decline is much broader and deeper than Trumpism.
- hb-robo 2y agoKids are born into a world where the last generation is already essentially locked into lifetime servitude, the world is burning, and the "adults in the room" are a circus. How could they not indulge in alternatives? What is there to look forward to, identify with, or love about this place? Culture thrives when the people are able to live meaningful lives.