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Minecraft Snapshot 25w03a

45 points by Wasserpuncher 2y ago

maxbaines 2y ago
This is notable as Game Tests are now available in the game.
- skerit 2y ago
  Very cool, though I do wish we had access to their suite of tests.
imtringued 2y ago
Last time I used the internal Minecraft testing library I had a problem where it was basically blocked in release builds and you had to write a bunch of fabric mixins to overwrite the feature flag, then on top of that there was a problem with the structure blocks. It could be fabric itself adding its own code in there. I don't really remember the details.
paulg2222 2y ago
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zimpenfish 2y ago
Yearning for the day when they post a snapshot which is actually optimised and we don't have to install 20 mods just to get adequate performance. (Difficult to sell merch or lootboxes on that back of that which means it'll never happen...)
- nottorp 2y ago
  This does sound like some faint semblance of official support for java modders? Which is shocking tbh. I think every java private server admin has nightmares where they wake up one day and read that java minecraft is being discontinued...
  - worldsayshi 2y ago
    >I think every java private server admin has nightmares where they wake up one day and read that java minecraft is being discontinued... If that happened I have a feeling Minecraft would fork with an open source rewrite taking over on the java side.
    - nottorp 2y ago
      More likely most will just stick to their binaries for the latest version. Most MC players I know want to play the game not hack it.
    - Filligree 2y ago
      And mod developers would heave a sigh of relief. The version treadmill is the hardest part of maintaining a mod; everything bitrots.
      - Vilian 2y ago
        You don't need to maintain anything if it don't exist, like mods support in bedrock edition
        Filligree 2y ago
        The most-recent Minecraft version would continue to exist, and by the looks of Starlight and such would continue to be improved.
    - saalweachter 2y ago
      I mean, Bedrock/Java are already pretty thoroughly forked?
      - nottorp 2y ago
        No one who plays on private servers cares about bedrock. There are just too many helper plugins on Java. And I don’t think bedrock is a fork, more like a reimplementation. Too many subtle differences.
neals 2y ago
What are all this testing features for?
- emsign 2y ago
  Quick and easy see-all-at-one-glance test world to see if a new feature breaks any import game mechanics. Will also come in handy for Java modders.
0xd3af 2y ago
Great, now even Minecraft wants me to write tests.
Borgz 2y ago
There is a 2020 video with a Minecraft developer talking about this testing infrastructure: https://youtu.be/vXaWOJTCYNg https://youtu.be/vXaWOJTCYNg
snvzz 2y ago
Hopes for Minecraft becoming open source are long dead. Moved on to Luanti[0]. 0. https://www.luanti.org/ https://www.luanti.org/
- myko 2y ago
  Was it supposed to be?
  - debugnik 2y ago
    https://web.archive.org/web/20100301103851/http://www.minecraft.net/about.jsp https://web.archive.org/web/20100301103851/http://www.minecr... > Once sales start dying and a minimum time has passed, I will release the game source code as some kind of open source. The condition never happened, so not really. However, I don't see Mojang ever doing that under Microsoft; unless it were to sunset Minecraft Java, and just maybe.
- hifikuno 2y ago
  Oh wow, did not realize Minetest rebranded. I guess to avoid legal troubles?
  - jwkerr 2y ago
    They rebranded because it brings bad connotations of being "just a Minecraft clone" https://blog.luanti.org/2024/10/13/Introducing-Our-New-Name/ https://blog.luanti.org/2024/10/13/Introducing-Our-New-Name/
rauli_ 2y ago
As a Linux user I'm grateful that they are still developing the Java version of Minecraft.
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yapyap 2y ago
rip walking speeds :(

45 points by Wasserpuncher 2y ago

maxbaines 2y ago

This is notable as Game Tests are now available in the game.

skerit 2y ago
Very cool, though I do wish we had access to their suite of tests.

imtringued 2y ago

Last time I used the internal Minecraft testing library I had a problem where it was basically blocked in release builds and you had to write a bunch of fabric mixins to overwrite the feature flag, then on top of that there was a problem with the structure blocks. It could be fabric itself adding its own code in there. I don't really remember the details.

paulg2222 2y ago

[dead]

zimpenfish 2y ago

Yearning for the day when they post a snapshot which is actually optimised and we don't have to install 20 mods just to get adequate performance. (Difficult to sell merch or lootboxes on that back of that which means it'll never happen...)

nottorp 2y ago
This does sound like some faint semblance of official support for java modders? Which is shocking tbh. I think every java private server admin has nightmares where they wake up one day and read that java minecraft is being discontinued...
- worldsayshi 2y ago
  >I think every java private server admin has nightmares where they wake up one day and read that java minecraft is being discontinued... If that happened I have a feeling Minecraft would fork with an open source rewrite taking over on the java side.
  - nottorp 2y ago
    More likely most will just stick to their binaries for the latest version. Most MC players I know want to play the game not hack it.
  - Filligree 2y ago
    And mod developers would heave a sigh of relief. The version treadmill is the hardest part of maintaining a mod; everything bitrots.
    - Vilian 2y ago
      You don't need to maintain anything if it don't exist, like mods support in bedrock edition
      - Filligree 2y ago
        The most-recent Minecraft version would continue to exist, and by the looks of Starlight and such would continue to be improved.
  - saalweachter 2y ago
    I mean, Bedrock/Java are already pretty thoroughly forked?
    - nottorp 2y ago
      No one who plays on private servers cares about bedrock. There are just too many helper plugins on Java. And I don’t think bedrock is a fork, more like a reimplementation. Too many subtle differences.

neals 2y ago

What are all this testing features for?

emsign 2y ago
Quick and easy see-all-at-one-glance test world to see if a new feature breaks any import game mechanics. Will also come in handy for Java modders.

0xd3af 2y ago

Great, now even Minecraft wants me to write tests.

Borgz 2y ago

There is a 2020 video with a Minecraft developer talking about this testing infrastructure: https://youtu.be/vXaWOJTCYNg https://youtu.be/vXaWOJTCYNg

snvzz 2y ago

Hopes for Minecraft becoming open source are long dead. Moved on to Luanti[0]. 0. https://www.luanti.org/ https://www.luanti.org/

myko 2y ago
Was it supposed to be?
- debugnik 2y ago
  https://web.archive.org/web/20100301103851/http://www.minecraft.net/about.jsp https://web.archive.org/web/20100301103851/http://www.minecr... > Once sales start dying and a minimum time has passed, I will release the game source code as some kind of open source. The condition never happened, so not really. However, I don't see Mojang ever doing that under Microsoft; unless it were to sunset Minecraft Java, and just maybe.
hifikuno 2y ago
Oh wow, did not realize Minetest rebranded. I guess to avoid legal troubles?
- jwkerr 2y ago
  They rebranded because it brings bad connotations of being "just a Minecraft clone" https://blog.luanti.org/2024/10/13/Introducing-Our-New-Name/ https://blog.luanti.org/2024/10/13/Introducing-Our-New-Name/

rauli_ 2y ago

As a Linux user I'm grateful that they are still developing the Java version of Minecraft.

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yapyap 2y ago

rip walking speeds :(