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If you feel that the national security angle is a farce, do you similarly feel that the DoD banning TikTok on government systems was just for show? https://defe
by lelandfe 2y ago
If you feel that the national security angle is a farce, do you similarly feel that the DoD banning TikTok on government systems was just for show? https://defensescoop.com/2023/06/02/pentagon-proposes-rule-to-ban-tiktok-on-all-dod-connected-devices-including-for-contractors/ https://defensescoop.com/2023/06/02/pentagon-proposes-rule-t...
- kome 2y agowell, probably yes
- mmmpetrichor 2y agoThe DoD banning an app on their network is a lot different than banning it competely in the US. I would think DoD should ban most apps connecting to their networks that aren't work related. I feel this whole effort is either in bad faith or isn't being transparently communicated to the public.
- kjkjadksj 2y agoThey famously failed to ban strava and some military assets were unintentionally disclosed on the strava heatmap by soldiers logging their cardio jogs through facility hallways.
- IncreasePosts 2y agoExcept there was never a discussion of banning TikTok the app. Which is why a sale of the app was always an option.
- RestlessMind 2y agoNatSec should not even be needed. A simpler reason could be that China bans foreign social media apps from operating in China, so Chinese apps should be treated as such.
- bb123 2y agoReciprocity is not a good idea. Why would we want to copy every bad foreign law?
- RestlessMind 2y ago> Reciprocity is not a good idea. Sometimes it is. Especially, if an adversary is bad to you, you should not be good to him. You should be equally bad, or sometimes worse. That's how wars are won. Those who are nice to enemies because of "values" get crushed by the ruthless opponents.
- hxegon 2y agoThat's not how you win wars, that's how you start them. Diplomacy is a thing.
- pixl97 2y agoIt only works when one party isn't interested in starting a war in the first place.
- hxegon 2y agoand why on earth would China want to start a war with us? We are a huge trading partner and yes there's a lot of posturing and conflicting geo-political interests, cultural views etc but that doesn't mean that war is their goal.
- RestlessMind 2y agoDiplomacy only works when both sides are playing fair. If China is going to ban US apps unilaterally, US should reciprocate in kind.
- lkois 2y agoBut China banning foreign apps also plays into their stranglehold on their domestic media and economy, so it's not a purely adversarial move against the US. Or to put it another way, should the US also ban/censor Chinese art and cinema within it's borders?
- nashashmi 2y agoIt was not for show. It acknowledged its success and was to limit its success. Then limit it as a "potential" vector for intrusion. Kaspersky was removed from the US on the same basis.
- xnx 2y agoDon't mobile apps have severely limited permissions compared to Kaspersky?
- nashashmi 2y agoTiktok has access to photos and videos on the device, and user data on interactions. This was seen as a vector for compromising the individual's integrity via embarrassment and blackmail.
- wfh 2y agoI just installed tiktok for the first time on my Android device and it asked for no permissions and even let me use it without creating an account. How is it getting photos and videos on my device?
- cwillu 2y agoNormal practice is a prompt-on-first-attempt: when you click on various things, it'll ask; I've never given it access to anything, and so I get a prompt asking for permission to see my contacts about once a week.
- culi 2y agomost bases still block twitter, facebook, flickr, etc too https://www.wired.com/2009/06/despite-army-order-some-bases-still-ban-facebook-twitter/ https://www.wired.com/2009/06/despite-army-order-some-bases-...