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So many people wanted this to fail.
by dtquad 2y ago
So many people wanted this to fail.
- UltraSane 2y agoWhy?
- YetAnotherNick 2y agoMany commenters on HN have this weird idea that if Taiwan is slightly ahead of competition, US would defend Taiwan against a country with nukes. Or that TSMC superiority is Taiwan's national security issue.
- crimsonalucard 2y ago[dead]
- UltraSane 2y agoThe US would probably defend Taiwan if the CCP invaded it. I don't think we would ever use nukes.
- ekianjo 2y agoDefend with what exactly?
- YetAnotherNick 2y agoYou think if say US bombs all the CCP's planes, CCP would sit silently and accept defeat? Same thing happened with Ukraine. NATO couldn't escalate the war at any cost, so they can just play safe and only do things that don't risk escalation.
- varjag 2y agoIf the Russia case suggests anything it's that yes, they'll sit silently and absorb the losses behind all the nuclear bravado.
- _heimdall 2y agoI'm not sure I would consider Russia having sat silent though. They've continued the war for nearly 2 years now (or 10 if you go back to 2014) and have worked with allies to have foreign troops fighting on Ukrainian soil.
- varjag 2y agoThe full scale invasion is entering its fourth year in fact. But I was addressing the nuclear war fears expressed above. Experience show you can hit anything in Russia (including the Kremlin) without nuclear retaliation.
- _heimdall 2y agoYep, it takes me about a month to get the new year in my head apparently, I did the quick math based on 2024. Anyone expecting nuclear retaliation for the strikes that have been made inside Russian territory has no grasp on what it really means for a country to use a nuke, or has no confidence in a nuclear power understanding the basic game theory of what would come next. Russia would never use a nuke when a small number of missiles or drones made it past their air defence and cause minor damage on Russian soil.
- ceejayoz 2y agoThe NATO strategy in Ukraine hasn’t been great for Ukraine, but the old cold warriors of the 1980s would be pissing their pants to find how well it worked against the Russians. Wiping out significant portions of their army, navy, and air force for a fraction of a single year’s budget and not a single American death?
- nwatson 2y agoTaiwan would strike Three Gorges Dam and kill millions. CCP should focus on Siberia.
- api 2y agoHonestly, if China wants to just go take that Eastern half of Russia they are welcome. Nobody would stop them and much of the world would cheer. I've wondered if China encouraged Russia to invade Ukraine to weaken them so they can become a Chinese vassal state to supply raw materials.
- knowitnone 2y agothe West can take the other half
- maxglute 2y agoNo they wouldn't, TW doesn't have the ordnance or ability to deliver said ordnance to structurally damage a gravity dam, especially one size of three gorges. They're much better off hitting PRC coastal nuclear (something that worries PRC planners), either way, it's suicide by war crime.
- UltraSane 2y agoIs it still a war crime AFTER the CCP invades with the goal of completely replacing the Taiwanese government?
- sofixa 2y agoYes. If Ukraine executes Russian POWs, or firebombs Moscow, it's still a war crime even if Russia invaded with the goal of genociding them (yes, saying an ethnicity doesn't really exist and they're just confused Russians, kidnapping children to resettle elsewhere, and forcefully assimilating at gunpoint everyone in the occupied territories is genocide). War crimes are absolute, there's no "if you weren't first, you get one free".
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- sashank_1509 2y agoDoesn’t TSMC building a plant in US, offset the need for US to invade Taiwan. Perhaps Taiwan expects US support out of goodwill, but I think Taiwan overestimates how much goodwill drives US politics. Taiwan might have had a better chance of getting support, if it maintained a monopoly on circuit production.
- sofixa 2y ago> Many commenters on HN have this weird idea that if Taiwan is slightly ahead of competition, US would defend Taiwan against a country with nukes. Or that TSMC superiority is Taiwan's national security issue. Well... TSMC is definitely a component of Taiwan's national security. It's called the "Silicon Shield" for a reason. And the US definitely has more reasons to go to war, and more importantly, threaten war to prevent one breaking out, over Taiwan if it knows there will be a massive economic impact. And China definitely knows that if Taiwan is important for the US, it's almost certain the US would defend it.
- corimaith 2y ago[flagged]
- jart 2y agoBoth countries are officially named China, so only one can be right.
- XorNot 2y agoAt an international politics level, what is "officially" called what doesn't mean much.
- mainecoder 2y agoThere is only One China hence the One China Policy.
- knowitnone 2y agoyou mean One Taiwan Policy
- jmartin2683 2y agoThey want war? Someone else’s, at that? Crazy.
- gadders 2y agoWhy do you think it's a weird idea? It's a strategic asset as much as oilfields are.
- YetAnotherNick 2y agoBecause Samsung and Intel would probably close the gap by the time the war is done. They are just 2-4 years behind with the gaps already closing in.
- crimsonalucard 2y ago[dead]
- energy123 2y agoSome people are against industrial policy (like the CHIPS Act) because they don't believe that market failure exists. Some people are against Biden/Dems. Some people are clueless about the foreign policy and the geopolitical reality in Asia and take the status quo regional power balance as a given.
- rtkwe 2y agoNot on the I want it to fail side but my main question is why we put this water intensive industry in Arizona instead of further east where water is less stressed as a resource? Seems like it would be way better off being somewhere in the eastern half of the country or at least not in the Southwest.
- TrapLord_Rhodo 2y agowater is a non-issue. The main issue in deciding where a factory should go is which state will give you the most to do it.
- wumeow 2y agoMany commenters just hate America.
- markhahn 2y agoLike who? Rabid globalization fans?