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Bring back a version of this to help aging seniors deal with increasingly complex interfaces.

gjsman-1000 2y ago
I remember when the first iPad came out, and the tech press marveled at how easily seniors could understand it. This no longer applies to modern iOS. We don’t necessarily need Bob. We just need an iOS 1 mode, skeuomorphic design and all. Back when the camera app only had a photo or video switch, a take photo button, and a gallery button.
- likeabatterycar 2y ago
  > We don’t necessarily need Bob. We just need an iOS 1 mode But web developers have done their best to wreck this. Have you ever had to explain GDPR cookie dialogs to elderly parents? I've watched them Google recipes only to blame the chef when the site was broken or unusable, which was more often than not.
  - johannes1234321 2y ago
    But that's not due to web developers. They merely execute what some business people ask them to do in order to make people consent to something they don't want to consent to and making them angry about the EU presumably causing this, while it's completely up to the ad industry. They could make it a lot simpler or even reduce their surveillance.
- jonathantf2 2y ago
  Maybe not skeuomorphic design, but they have a simplified mode: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/assistive-access-iphone/devcd5016d31/ios https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/assistive-access-iphon...
exe34 2y ago
that's an idea - a version of it on social media to remind them to go out and touch grass instead of believing every conspiracy theory.
nytesky 2y ago
Seniors today were professionals using technology 20 years ago. In many ways interfaces have remained pretty static since then. The only real innovation was the iPhone, but it’s just a more responsive multi touch palm, to some degree. We still use windowing computers with mice/trackpad and keyboard, have pocket computers with apps and touch screens, and interface with more less the same browser with URL bar. We maybe are on cusp of VR and that will be a sea change in interfaces, if it ever comes to pass. And voice commands, but pretty limited function so far That’s from the 90s to today. Compare that to 60s to 90s, where you barely had desktop calculators, and used magnetic tape and maybe punch card inputs: https://www.computerhistory.org/timeline/1965/ https://www.computerhistory.org/timeline/1965/
- add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
  We're probably heading for a future where seniors know what a filesystem (and other concepts we take for granted) is and younger generations don't because they've been trained to use iOS and Android fully.
  - johannes1234321 2y ago
    Just as the youth from that time has no idea what punch cards and tapes are. ;)
    - c0nsumer 2y ago
      Except... file systems are still there and if you want to be anything more than a user (or "creator"), you need to know about them.
    - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
      But filesystems aren't going away, free and direct access to them are just being taken from us.
  - bluGill 2y ago
    You have to be old to have lived when man walked on the moon.

I remember when the first iPad came out, and the tech press marveled at how easily seniors could understand it. This no longer applies to modern iOS. We don’t necessarily need Bob. We just need an iOS 1 mode, skeuomorphic design and all. Back when the camera app only had a photo or video switch, a take photo button, and a gallery button.

likeabatterycar 2y ago
> We don’t necessarily need Bob. We just need an iOS 1 mode But web developers have done their best to wreck this. Have you ever had to explain GDPR cookie dialogs to elderly parents? I've watched them Google recipes only to blame the chef when the site was broken or unusable, which was more often than not.
- johannes1234321 2y ago
  But that's not due to web developers. They merely execute what some business people ask them to do in order to make people consent to something they don't want to consent to and making them angry about the EU presumably causing this, while it's completely up to the ad industry. They could make it a lot simpler or even reduce their surveillance.
jonathantf2 2y ago
Maybe not skeuomorphic design, but they have a simplified mode: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/assistive-access-iphone/devcd5016d31/ios https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/assistive-access-iphon...

exe34 2y ago

that's an idea - a version of it on social media to remind them to go out and touch grass instead of believing every conspiracy theory.

nytesky 2y ago

Seniors today were professionals using technology 20 years ago. In many ways interfaces have remained pretty static since then. The only real innovation was the iPhone, but it’s just a more responsive multi touch palm, to some degree. We still use windowing computers with mice/trackpad and keyboard, have pocket computers with apps and touch screens, and interface with more less the same browser with URL bar. We maybe are on cusp of VR and that will be a sea change in interfaces, if it ever comes to pass. And voice commands, but pretty limited function so far That’s from the 90s to today. Compare that to 60s to 90s, where you barely had desktop calculators, and used magnetic tape and maybe punch card inputs: https://www.computerhistory.org/timeline/1965/ https://www.computerhistory.org/timeline/1965/

add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
We're probably heading for a future where seniors know what a filesystem (and other concepts we take for granted) is and younger generations don't because they've been trained to use iOS and Android fully.
- johannes1234321 2y ago
  Just as the youth from that time has no idea what punch cards and tapes are. ;)
  - c0nsumer 2y ago
    Except... file systems are still there and if you want to be anything more than a user (or "creator"), you need to know about them.
  - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
    But filesystems aren't going away, free and direct access to them are just being taken from us.
- bluGill 2y ago
  You have to be old to have lived when man walked on the moon.