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My comment from 2 months ago saying: >FBI should go after OpenAI and Sam Altman the same way they went after Aaron Swartz. Should now be expanded to: FBI sho

by agilob 2y ago

My comment from 2 months ago saying: >FBI should go after OpenAI and Sam Altman the same way they went after Aaron Swartz. Should now be expanded to: FBI should go after OpenAI, Sam Altman and Meta the same way they went after Aaron Swartz.

portaouflop 2y ago
No they should go million times harder after them given that they built billion dollar businesses on top of this - but maybe that’s tue exact reason why they don’t?
- ALittleLight 2y ago
  Disagree. They were wrong to go after Aaron Swartz and would be wrong to go after OpenAI or Meta. The federal government should instead require any university receiving federal supports, support, or students on federal loans to require anyone associated with the university to publish only in completely open journals - providing unrestricted access to all. Then the government should void whatever intellectual property protections currently fetter academic literature.
  - portaouflop 2y ago
    Fair point and I agree with you on that - I guess my point was that Aaron’s “crime” pales in comparison to what they do. But yea copyright is broken and is holding back humanity as a whole
Havoc 2y ago
That was my first thought too, though wiki suggests that at least a portion of Aaron's sentence wasn't about piracy but unauthorized access. i.e. "hacking" So not a direct analog
- bagels 2y ago
  He was sentenced? I thought he didn't make it to trial?
  - marcosdumay 2y ago
    AFAIK, he wasn't. Also AFAIK, he had access, so this would be a really though "crime" for them to push.
- danparsonson 2y ago
  That always seemed to me as just a convenient stick with which to beat him - much as Al Capone was done for tax evasion (without wishing to draw any other parallels between the two)
nostradumbasp 2y ago
Not going to happen. All the US agencies and military branches stand to gain a ton in surveillance capabilities with GenAI technologies. More capable text condensation models, the ability to "befriend" and track hundreds of thousands of citizens online with fake persona's to extract information, fingerprinting citizens writing styles, anonymizing writing styles, harvesting resumes, mass propaganda campaigns, echo chambering groups of citizens, mass sentiment analysis for strategy development and psyops, smearing corporate/political campaigns to forward agendas, mass psychological weapon assessments, etc. It's too much for all branches of government to not forward this as quietly as possible while leveraging strategic corporate partnerships for data harvests. It's the new radium. Expect it to be in your shaving cream without accountability and hope future generations look back on it thinking we were really dumb. We're all part of the biggest experiment in human history we just have to trust who is at the wheel.

by agilob 2y ago

portaouflop 2y ago

No they should go million times harder after them given that they built billion dollar businesses on top of this - but maybe that’s tue exact reason why they don’t?

ALittleLight 2y ago
Disagree. They were wrong to go after Aaron Swartz and would be wrong to go after OpenAI or Meta. The federal government should instead require any university receiving federal supports, support, or students on federal loans to require anyone associated with the university to publish only in completely open journals - providing unrestricted access to all. Then the government should void whatever intellectual property protections currently fetter academic literature.
- portaouflop 2y ago
  Fair point and I agree with you on that - I guess my point was that Aaron’s “crime” pales in comparison to what they do. But yea copyright is broken and is holding back humanity as a whole

Havoc 2y ago

That was my first thought too, though wiki suggests that at least a portion of Aaron's sentence wasn't about piracy but unauthorized access. i.e. "hacking" So not a direct analog

bagels 2y ago
He was sentenced? I thought he didn't make it to trial?
- marcosdumay 2y ago
  AFAIK, he wasn't. Also AFAIK, he had access, so this would be a really though "crime" for them to push.
danparsonson 2y ago
That always seemed to me as just a convenient stick with which to beat him - much as Al Capone was done for tax evasion (without wishing to draw any other parallels between the two)

nostradumbasp 2y ago

Not going to happen. All the US agencies and military branches stand to gain a ton in surveillance capabilities with GenAI technologies. More capable text condensation models, the ability to "befriend" and track hundreds of thousands of citizens online with fake persona's to extract information, fingerprinting citizens writing styles, anonymizing writing styles, harvesting resumes, mass propaganda campaigns, echo chambering groups of citizens, mass sentiment analysis for strategy development and psyops, smearing corporate/political campaigns to forward agendas, mass psychological weapon assessments, etc. It's too much for all branches of government to not forward this as quietly as possible while leveraging strategic corporate partnerships for data harvests. It's the new radium. Expect it to be in your shaving cream without accountability and hope future generations look back on it thinking we were really dumb. We're all part of the biggest experiment in human history we just have to trust who is at the wheel.