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> Veteran tech journalist Kara Swisher has described Matt Mullenweg’s move to shut down WordPress’s sustainability team as “bizarrely heinous behavior.” Is it
by Y_Y 2y ago
> Veteran tech journalist Kara Swisher has described Matt Mullenweg’s move to shut down WordPress’s sustainability team as “bizarrely heinous behavior.”
Is it bizarrely heinous? Or is it just kind of bad? I enjoy WordPress drama, and run a couple of lazy WordPress services, but I don't think that this is actually worth all the spilt ink and tears, relative to all the other injustices a person might choose to concern themselves with.
- Dalewyn 2y ago[flagged]
- DemocracyFTW2 2y agothe quote in question was not coming from the journalist that "bashed out some text" tho but from a team member. Thanks anyway for lashing out at the profession in general coz who do they think they are, right. Gotta know your limits, right?
- Dalewyn 2y ago[flagged]
- rafram 2y agoHowever you feel about her wording in this case, Kara Swisher is definitely a journalist, not a “journalist.”
- Dalewyn 2y ago[flagged]
- rafram 2y agoShe wrote this in a casual post on Threads [1], not an article. There’s no attempt to “sensationalize for clicks” here. Journalists don’t have to be in journalist mode all the time when they’re communicating casually. You seem to have a rather large chip on your shoulder. [1]: https://www.threads.net/@karaswisher/post/DEniSxyS01i https://www.threads.net/@karaswisher/post/DEniSxyS01i
- Dalewyn 2y ago[flagged]
- matwood 2y agoMullenweg brought this on himself. Swisher is just reporting on it. A rush to judgement can be an issue, but that is definitely not the case here.
- Dalewyn 2y ago[flagged]
- rafram 2y ago> he's the bigger man (relatively speaking) by engaging in artful trolling No, being immature does not make you “the bigger man.”
- matwood 2y agoShe said what everyone has been saying for weeks. The wording is also clearly her opinion, nothing hidden there. She also included Mullenweg's post so everyone can read the source. Are you saying that journalists can never share an opinion? Also, are you trying to argue Mullenweg is only looking bad because of journalists? His own actions and words seem to be doing a pretty good job on their own.
- Dalewyn 2y ago
- DemocracyFTW2 2y agoOK so now I feel it's rather immaterial who of us was right and who was wrong
- DemocracyFTW2 2y agoLooks like you're right!
- dang 2y agoCould you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN? You've unfortunately been doing it a lot, on multiple topics. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for, and we've already asked you to stop. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- deleted 2y ago[deleted]
- safety1st 2y agoIt sounds like you actually work for a living and aim to conduct your business professionally, which is probably why you don't understand all these people who aren't doing either of those things. I don't know man, I feel like the entire planet has gone mad over the course of about 15 years. Who am I supposed to root for? The executives who throw public tantrums and behave like children? Or the activists who try to turn the company into a vehicle for whatever the latest left wing cause is? How about someone in that organization gets back to actually building some good fucking software? Is there a connection between all the horsing around these people do and the fact that after 5+ years of development Gutenberg is still kind of a pile of crap? I feel like not so long ago in history it would have been obvious to everyone that the answer is yes, work is about actually working and producing things. But now everybody's primary job is apparently to wail on Twitter instead of putting butt in seat for 8 hours a day, writing code, and on a good day, maybe figuring out how to get a little better at it. Idk man. Whatever this world is I don't really want any part of it anymore, I want to switch to the sane timeline.
- ericjmorey 2y agoIs this recursive satire?
- DoneWithAllThat 2y agoI was more struck by the fact that the author thinks anyone would or should care what some random tech journalist thinks about something. Person has opinions, news at eleven.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y agoI don't really think you believe that journalism shouldn't exist or that you don't know journalism includes opinion and commentary, but I don't know why this is controversial enough to trigger that response. What's funny, though, is that the trite "news at 11" catchphrase is very much also invoking traditional journalism.
- aithrowawaycomm 2y ago[flagged]
- westlifer 2y agoWhy do you say he's a transphobic bigot?
- immibis 2y agoPossibly because he is one. You could Google "mullenweg" and "transphobia" together for more details, dear troll account created 3 minutes before commenting.
- westlifer 2y agoI did Google it. So perhaps you can explain how these three tweets from Matt are evidence of him being a "transphobic bigot", as others are claiming: 1. > When will you be honest with your followers? That the repeated adult content violations were not pictures like this, but likely ones on your other accounts (actual names): irishbigcockgiri, burgerfootjob, furryvore-burps, bredstrogen, cumburp, doggirlballsack, hungqueen, bigtittycockgf, bigcocktittygf, girltaint, muskmommy, girlballsack, showersharts, sapiosexual-breeder, catgirlhairball, catgirlcondom, catgirlcumsock, catgirlballsack, cumspangler. 2. > These photos are fine for Tumblr. Someone else could post them. You can't because you violated the community guidelines and terms of service multiple times and are banned for life. With your new accounts on other services, consider not posting deathwishes against their staff. 3. > Reporting credible threats of violence or terrorism is actually a legal requirement. No one reported your "i hope photomatt dies forever a painful death", however. > There's no problem with your transition photos, or the millions of others that have been posted. That last tweet in particular is evidence against the claim, is it not?
- aithrowawaycomm 2y agoThe first tweet is precisely why any honest person would conclude he's transphobic: those were private accounts and he abused his power as CEO to get that information. He publicly outed her out of pure transphobic spite, presumably hoping that Twitter's merry bands of transphobes would dogpile her there and everywhere else they could find her. (I also heard that he repeatedly misgendered her in a now-deleted Tumblr post, but I couldn't find a screenshot.) "You can't proooove that he's transphobic, and you can't prooooove that he outed her because he wanted transphobes to harass her" yeah well we're not in court, this is a social matter. I am an individual human who has to make low-information judgments about other members of my species, and my low-information judgment of Mullenweg is that he's a transphobe. It is impossible for me to see an honest argument to the contrary. I am aware that dishonest arguments come quite easily: - "innocent before proven guilty!" - "what about the tweet where he said 'trans people are okay I guess'" - "that was 8 months ago, when he was a wee 40-year-old lad, he's grown since then" But considering Mullenweg is a horrifically bad person in many other areas of his life, I am quite confident he also sucks when it comes to civil rights.
- mrcwinn 2y agoA "journalist" who won't talk to the principal of the story. Now that's bizarre behavior.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoKara Swisher is an emotional activist type of journalist and not to be taken seriously. It’s not surprising to see manufactured outrage here.
- calmbonsai 2y agoI don't agree with the "manufactured outrage", but I concur on Swisher. Her M.O. is to take a 'hot-button' issue and simply add fuel to the fire with zero nuance or in-depth analysis. Not related, see the entire ReCode fiasco.