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Pushing the whole company into the past on purpose
- senkora 2y agoThis seems to be the reason for writing about the topic right now: > So, yes, in June 2015, I slowed down the whole company [Facebook] by a second. > Of course, here it is ten years later, and the guy in charge just sent it back fifty years [by ending fact checking?]. Way to upstage me, dude.
- klooney 2y agoFacebook maybe? She mentions the cat factory
- sunshowers 2y agoThe fact checking is the tip of the iceberg — it's what the marketing machine led with because it's the least objectionable. Far far worse is letting queer people like myself be called mentally ill, though not any other group (e.g. religious people). Yes, it's part of the common discourse, but the common discourse is objectively morally abhorrent. I worked at FB for a decade, and I now am rooting for its complete destruction.
- jimbob45 2y ago[flagged]
- sunshowers 2y agoI'm advocating for moral virtue and the reduction of suffering, but short of that I'm arguing for the same standards. I'm an Indian immigrant living in the US.
- pjc50 2y agoNewsflash: people don't like being called mentally ill on either continent.
- morkalork 2y agoIf an adult told you they believed Santa was real, you'd call them mentally ill and yet..
- praptak 2y agoThat's literally not true. Neither flat earthers nor "vaccines cause autism" folks are being called mentally ill. The hypothetical Santanists would not be called mentally ill either.
- morkalork 2y agoI'll help you out, flat-earthers are delusional and sick, anti-vaxxers are idiots and anyone that believes in the supernatural in this century is a cultist.
- ClassyJacket 2y ago[flagged]
- pfannkuchen 2y agoYou can’t call Christians mentally ill on Facebook? Really?
- skellington 2y ago[flagged]
- pessimizer 2y agoIf wanting to kill yourself over your sex isn't mental illness, I have no idea why insurance or the state should be concerned about it. We're not collectively paying for flat-chested women to get breast implants, or ugly men to get nose jobs, although they both may be upset about their bodies. We're also not labeling it as "life-saving." I don't understand how we can insist that these conditions are both the worst mental illnesses, and not mental illnesses at all, at the same time. And maybe you do understand, but it's not so clearly explained that people shouldn't be allowed to discuss it in public. > though not any other group (e.g. religious people). Is this made up?
- KittenInABox 2y ago> We're not collectively paying for flat-chested women to get breast implants, or ugly men to get nose jobs, although they both may be upset about their bodies. Umm...We actually do pay for breast implants/breast reductions in the case of medical need which can vary from reconstruction to hormone imbalances, the latter of which makes sense to consider being transgender under since hormones do quite a bit to help with the illness.
- sunshowers 2y agoIs pregnancy an illness, mental or otherwise? Should insurance or the state not cover the medical costs of pregnancy? What are your credentials, anyway? Why do you think you know more than decades of in depth research and millennia of anthropological evidence?
- intended 2y agoWhy bring logic to an emotion fight. They have a whole media ecosystem, the actual main stream media, giving them training and talking points to subvert these conversations and successfully move away from facts. They only follow the style of debate, not its substance. Limiting your self to the substance only weighs you down against an attacker of this nature. Engage, but just waste their cycles. Eventually there is always a missing definition, something extremely basic that’s being alluded to. Or a contradiction that shows up. Point that out and you will get the “go google it yourself”, retreat flag show up.
- DiggyJohnson 2y agoI don’t think (most) queer people nor (most) religious people should be called mentally ill at work or on social media. However, I also don’t think a standalone policy should address either case specifically. Professional decorum and the typical “no hate speech” should cover it. What say you to that position?
- freeone3000 2y agoIt would be if those were not specific exceptions to the hate speech policy: “ Mental characteristics, including but not limited to allegations of stupidity, intellectual capacity, and mental illness, and unsupported comparisons between PC groups on the basis of inherent intellectual capacity. We do allow allegations of mental illness or abnormality when based on gender or sexual orientation, given political and religious discourse about transgenderism and homosexuality and common non-serious usage of words like “weird.”” Source: https://transparency.meta.com/policies/community-standards/hateful-conduct/ https://transparency.meta.com/policies/community-standards/h...
- sunshowers 2y agoYou are welcome to take this up with Mark Zuckerberg.
- nonrandomstring 2y agoNice descriptive article. I've done this on purpose too to debug remote filesystem syncs and cryptography problems where machines are out of sync. My GPS wall clock is handy for adjusting NTP, but the time it takes to scan my eyes from the wall back to the monitor.. you really do need two stacked like she did. So I now figured to use transparrent terminals each logged into a different host and lay them over one another running "watch -n1 date". Would have been nice to have some more network, code and command line examples. You need to set up a local ntpd and need to point your local master at that temporarily. A better utility to write would be "timediff -s1 -s2" that takes two time servers and shows the offset. I bet there's a way to do that in one line. Anyone?
- fishstock25 2y ago> watch -n1 date Um, that's a pretty inaccurate way to notice an offset in the millisecond range, isn't it?
- nonrandomstring 2y agoThat doesn't even show ms. Add something like +%s%N (ns) to the options if you want finer resolution.
- mkl 2y agoThe problem is using watch you have no control* over when in each second it's getting the time, so it could be nearly a second late (e.g. it's getting the time once per second, but happens to be doing it when it's a few milliseconds away from ticking over to the next second). * Okay, you have a little control in that you can press enter, or otherwise set it running, at a particular moment.
- Izkata 2y agoSo don't have any delay: while true; do date +%s%N; done
- singleshot_ 2y agoI’m not sure I get the fifty years bit at the very end. Anyone care to explain?
- drewbug01 2y agoI believe the author worked at Facebook in the past. The "fifty years" bit is likely a reference to that company's recent policy change that explicitly re-authorizes the use of what are rightly considered slurs - even if they were common sentiment to express publicly fifty-some years ago.
- singleshot_ 2y agoAye, that makes sense (not the slurs, but the explanation). Thanks.
- ashoeafoot 2y ago"Reenact the past , be the past, past becomes glorious present" Isil
- wodenokoto 2y ago> Of course, here it is ten years later, and the guy in charge just sent it back fifty years. Way to upstage me, dude. I feel like there's a link to a story missing there
- isoprophlex 2y agoThe guy in charge being Lizardman, who almost tripped over his own claws to get rid of fact checkers, to allow calling non-heterosexuals metally ill, etcetera etcetera now that we are witnessing the second coming of The White House Cheeto
- declan_roberts 2y ago[flagged]
- isoprophlex 2y agoThe moment big tech senses a shift in the political magnetosphere, they don't just bend, they quantum tunnel into perfect alignment with the new paradigm. What's more, in this case it is as if they were waiting for permission to shed their liberal democratic haha rainbow flags exoskeleton and reveal their true form without even bothering with keeping up appearances Punchline being that these tech companies were never the bastions of progressive values they claimed to be -- they were surfing the zeitgeist until a bigger wave came along
- ReptileMan 2y ago[flagged]
- this_user 2y agoIt's about the company's recent course change, which includes Zuckerberg's Joe Rogan interview from last week. IMO this has a lot to do with the younger generations. Gen Z were heavily supporting Trump in the recent election, and Zuck has probably realised that he needs to align Meta with them if they want to remain a relevant player in the social media space.
- Animats 2y agoIs there a standard "smearing" period now? For a while, Google had a 24 hour adjustment period, 12 hours on each side of the leap second, while Facebook used a shorter period.
- fanf2 2y agoNot as far as I know. The cosine adjustment that Google originally used is not the best: NTP aims to measure the difference in rate between the client’s hardware clock and real time, and it works best if the rates are fairly constant. With the cosine smear, the rate changes continuously! If you use a simple linear smear, NTP just has to cope with two small rate changes at the start and end of the smear. The smear needs to be slow enough that NTP’s algorithms have time to react without overshooting; 24 hours is a reasonable choice tho you can go a bit faster. There’s some disagreement about when the smear occurs relative to the leap second; if the leap is in the middle of the smear the max offset is 0.5 seconds, but if the leap is at the end of the smear the offset is always slow. They were able to test the up-to-one-second-slow scenario in a system-wide live trial, whereas they could not do the same for the sign flip. I think if you can cope with a 0.5 second offset from real time then a 1.0 second offset should not be much more troublesome.
- quitit 2y ago>Of course, here it is ten years later, and the guy in charge just sent it back fifty years. Way to upstage me, dude. Seeing that this was written by Rachel by the Bay, I thought it was going to be a post about Facebook's recent policy change, and indeed it was.
- llm_trw 2y agoThat policy change reads like a more liberal version of Obama's first term compaign platform on social issues. Lets not pretend that the current climate in SF isn't both way outside the Overton window for most of rest of the US and most of California until ten years ago.
- vlovich123 2y agoWtf is this comment in relation to? Certainly not the article which is about a strictly technical issue or how to deploy time smearing for the first time.
- schoen 2y agoIt's a reference to the very last paragraph of the article.
- llm_trw 2y agoAnd the title.
- CuriousCosmic 2y agoNot really? The title is a reference to the article's topic of systematically manipulating time standards (which results in the time for the entire company getting slowly sent "into the past") for the purpose of avoiding complexities like leap seconds, etc.
- aikinai 2y agoRead to the end. The time smearing article was just a clever ruse to set up her political jab.
- rcarmo 2y agoThe fact that she has the experience (and the stories) to set it up in the first place more than makes up for it, IMHO.
- jiriknesl 2y agoThe guy isn't sending the company 50 years back. I come from a post-communist country which had a lot of censorship. It was happening 50 years ago as well (it was happening since the end of 40s to the end of 80s). Call me sensitive. ;) The guy is removing the company from 50 years back.
- purplethinking 2y agoNo no, the guy is definitely sending the company back 50 years, to a time when free speech actually meant something, and when a single party didn't control 90% of all media outlets, social media, institutions and controlling policy at most Fortune 500 companies.
- techfeathers 2y ago50 years ago when there were like 3 television channels? Do we really want to return to the “free speech” when no one had a voice
- noobermin 2y agoI wish I wasn't so stupid or unlucky. In another life I could be doing amazing shit like rachel by the bay instead of pushing code no one cares about and rushing deadlines only to get paid late.
- DecoySalamander 2y ago"Amazing shit" like devops or bad political puns? Surely it's not too late for you to try either or both.
- Havoc 2y agoSurprised it takes 20 hours to smear one second. Normal desktops definitely aren’t that sensitive. Anybody know what sort of gear is?
- ghostpepper 2y agoI wonder how much those broadcast/studio clocks are worth. I looked everywhere to find a digital alarm clock with orange LEDs and couldn't find one.
- jelder 2y agoThe cheapest one I could find was about $250: https://timemachinescorp.com/ntp_poe_wifi_dotmatrix_clock_timer_displays/ https://timemachinescorp.com/ntp_poe_wifi_dotmatrix_clock_ti...