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I have gotten a few of those "Apple" phishing attempts. They really look legit. My Apple ID got compromised, many years ago, and people try to use it, from time

I have gotten a few of those "Apple" phishing attempts. They really look legit. My Apple ID got compromised, many years ago, and people try to use it, from time to time. However, I am pretty up on the state of my accounts, so I won't follow up on them. The only people who ever call me, from Apple, are the Developer Support folks, and that's usually to castigate me, for stepping on some soft spot, or in response to me reaching out to them. I totally ignore calls from numbers that I don't know; a rare privilege.

jimt1234 2y ago
I got a vociemail from Kaiser Permanente just yesterday, telling me I owed for a recent medical visit. The voicemail went on, citing some (probably fictional) laws that allowed them to start garnishing my wages immediately for unpaid medical debt. ... I've never been to Kaiser in my life, not even the parking lot. LOL
- olyjohn 2y ago
  Wait until you get a medical bill after an expensive procedure. You'll get 6 bills from a bunch of different doctors and facilities, you'll have no idea who any of these people are, and none of the amounts billed match up to what your insurance says is owed or was paid. They can't or won't explain what the costs were, or why some portion of it was covered or not. It'll take a whole day to reconcile everything after talking to multiple billing departments, and your insurance company. And that's why the scam they are trying to pull on you works for a lot of people. It's too much headache to deal with all of it and fight it, and usually you're still sick or recovering and won't have the mental power to deal with it, or notice that it's even a scam.
eru 2y ago
> I totally ignore calls from numbers that I don't know; a rare privilege. When I am not totally busy, I usually accept them and put myself on mute and put the phone down. They typically waste a minute saying 'hello, hello?' before hanging up, while I keep working. (Alas, I get a lot of spam calls.)
- paul7986 2y ago
  I would think those who answer the calls are automatically placed on a list as this person answers and your number is sold as such. Personally I have the "Silence Unknown Numbers," feature on my iPhone always toggled on. All unknown ..not in my contacts already..I never hear or see calling.. I might see I missed their call but my mind ignores missed call. Overall if I dont know you well your not in my iPhone contacts ..getting to know new folks they are given my Google voice number which is only for texting.
  - avh02 2y ago
    I'd love to do this but too often a call is made by an unknown number to me in response to an action, e.g i requested a dishwasher repair via email, i was called to schedule it by the contractor it was assigned to by my landlord. If i ignored that call it's likely a game of chasing them back up and potentially navigating PBX systems, etc
    - eru 2y ago
      I find that caller-id works pretty well for these kinds of expected unknown calls for me. But that might just be a Singapore thing? (Or perhaps it's an Android thing, and Google looks up the number? Not sure.)
      - avh02 2y ago
        I believe it's a Google thing, which i have turned off because i don't need every call being sent to them for a minor convenience
    - chatmasta 2y ago
      They can leave a voicemail.
      - avh02 2y ago
        This is usually the way, but still, it's often more difficult than answering when they call
renewiltord 2y ago
I just have a number with a rare area code and then block everything from that code using NumberShield, the iOS app. I usually have a few voicemails to delete but I don’t really notice the calls. I do have to laugh at security, though, since many banks and trading companies just call you direct. I’ve definitely received incoming calls that I hesitate about not continuing. Fortunately, I’m not too confident in my skill to detect a phisher so I always go online to find the official account to call. If they can redirect my call then I’m doomed but often it’s exactly a completely normal call. They were just calling to make sure the wire I set up was intentional. Come on, dude!

jimt1234 2y ago

I got a vociemail from Kaiser Permanente just yesterday, telling me I owed for a recent medical visit. The voicemail went on, citing some (probably fictional) laws that allowed them to start garnishing my wages immediately for unpaid medical debt. ... I've never been to Kaiser in my life, not even the parking lot. LOL

olyjohn 2y ago
Wait until you get a medical bill after an expensive procedure. You'll get 6 bills from a bunch of different doctors and facilities, you'll have no idea who any of these people are, and none of the amounts billed match up to what your insurance says is owed or was paid. They can't or won't explain what the costs were, or why some portion of it was covered or not. It'll take a whole day to reconcile everything after talking to multiple billing departments, and your insurance company. And that's why the scam they are trying to pull on you works for a lot of people. It's too much headache to deal with all of it and fight it, and usually you're still sick or recovering and won't have the mental power to deal with it, or notice that it's even a scam.

eru 2y ago

> I totally ignore calls from numbers that I don't know; a rare privilege. When I am not totally busy, I usually accept them and put myself on mute and put the phone down. They typically waste a minute saying 'hello, hello?' before hanging up, while I keep working. (Alas, I get a lot of spam calls.)

paul7986 2y ago
I would think those who answer the calls are automatically placed on a list as this person answers and your number is sold as such. Personally I have the "Silence Unknown Numbers," feature on my iPhone always toggled on. All unknown ..not in my contacts already..I never hear or see calling.. I might see I missed their call but my mind ignores missed call. Overall if I dont know you well your not in my iPhone contacts ..getting to know new folks they are given my Google voice number which is only for texting.
- avh02 2y ago
  I'd love to do this but too often a call is made by an unknown number to me in response to an action, e.g i requested a dishwasher repair via email, i was called to schedule it by the contractor it was assigned to by my landlord. If i ignored that call it's likely a game of chasing them back up and potentially navigating PBX systems, etc
  - eru 2y ago
    I find that caller-id works pretty well for these kinds of expected unknown calls for me. But that might just be a Singapore thing? (Or perhaps it's an Android thing, and Google looks up the number? Not sure.)
    - avh02 2y ago
      I believe it's a Google thing, which i have turned off because i don't need every call being sent to them for a minor convenience
  - chatmasta 2y ago
    They can leave a voicemail.
    - avh02 2y ago
      This is usually the way, but still, it's often more difficult than answering when they call

renewiltord 2y ago

I just have a number with a rare area code and then block everything from that code using NumberShield, the iOS app. I usually have a few voicemails to delete but I don’t really notice the calls. I do have to laugh at security, though, since many banks and trading companies just call you direct. I’ve definitely received incoming calls that I hesitate about not continuing. Fortunately, I’m not too confident in my skill to detect a phisher so I always go online to find the official account to call. If they can redirect my call then I’m doomed but often it’s exactly a completely normal call. They were just calling to make sure the wire I set up was intentional. Come on, dude!