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I don't think Apple terminal is sparse at all. Try to dig through the preferences, there's surprisingly much choice for an opinionated software vendor like Appl

I don't think Apple terminal is sparse at all. Try to dig through the preferences, there's surprisingly much choice for an opinionated software vendor like Apple. I love it, I've tried iTerm2 in the past but I just saw no reason to keep using it. The only feature that slightly appealed to me was the tmux integration but I found that i preferred to just have tmux inside the terminal instead. I know some people that use the game-like rolldown interface (quake mode?) but I also don't like/need that one. There's a few niche things like that which make it interesting. But overall I just don't see the need. If there's something that's sparse in options, it's Windows Terminal. Don't like that one at all (though it's better than the previous command prompt window).

Kwpolska 2y ago
Windows Terminal has a ton of options these days. Last time I used Apple's, it had very US-centric handling of Alt/Option, unlike iTerm2.
vouaobrasil 2y ago
> I've tried iTerm2 in the past but I just saw no reason to keep using it. One feature that's cool in iTerm2 is that you can define the left and right margins so using Vim full-screen looks nicer (I hate narrow margins). But I've switched to Sublime text for everything so I stopped using iTerm2.
frizlab 2y ago
I love Terminal. I tried iTerm2 but never got the appeal and switched back to Terminal.
johncoltrane 2y ago
I used iTerm2.app for a while, back when Terminal.app didn't support 256 colors. That was literally the only reason and I ditched it the day Terminal.app got 256c, many years ago, now.
- joshka 2y ago
  It however doesn't have 24bit color still
  - wkat4242 2y ago
    Meh that's kinda overrated. There's only so many colours you can discern in individual letters.
    - joshka 2y ago
      Sure, the issue is that it doesn't gracefully degrade when presented with 24bit color.
      - johncoltrane 2y ago
        Well, assuming 24bit—or anything from a terminal emulator, really—is not a very bright strategy.
        crest 2y ago
        Depends on your colour palette :-P.
      - sengifluff 2y ago
        Tmux does, though! I used iTerm2 for a while before realising that tmux automatically maps 24-bit colors to 256color. It works well enough for me that I switched back to Terminal.app.
  - johncoltrane 2y ago
    Which is not an issue for me as 256c is my sweet spot.
danyala 2y ago
Ghostty has the quake mode interface and has allowed me to overcome my shame for never graduating to iTerm. I can't remember much about the game except the giblets but hopefully I've understood.
alwyn 2y ago
The majority of configuration options in Windows Terminal are hidden in JSON. The GUI only exposes a fraction. They are doing work to expose more options in the GUI though. Having tried various alternatives for prolonged periods, it is currently IMHO the best option when you have to work on Windows. Mac and Linux options are just vastly ahead.
- wkat4242 2y ago
  Ah I see. I only used it since the beginning and I hated it and didn't go back. Certainly didn't explore json options :) Thanks! I really hate working on windows too and our company is tightening stuff down so crazily that I can hardly work anymore so I mostly work on my home lab in Linux and transfer stuff there. Totally not allowed by my employer but they make it impossible for me to work otherwise.

Kwpolska 2y ago

Windows Terminal has a ton of options these days. Last time I used Apple's, it had very US-centric handling of Alt/Option, unlike iTerm2.

vouaobrasil 2y ago

> I've tried iTerm2 in the past but I just saw no reason to keep using it. One feature that's cool in iTerm2 is that you can define the left and right margins so using Vim full-screen looks nicer (I hate narrow margins). But I've switched to Sublime text for everything so I stopped using iTerm2.

frizlab 2y ago

I love Terminal. I tried iTerm2 but never got the appeal and switched back to Terminal.

johncoltrane 2y ago

I used iTerm2.app for a while, back when Terminal.app didn't support 256 colors. That was literally the only reason and I ditched it the day Terminal.app got 256c, many years ago, now.

joshka 2y ago
It however doesn't have 24bit color still
- wkat4242 2y ago
  Meh that's kinda overrated. There's only so many colours you can discern in individual letters.
  - joshka 2y ago
    Sure, the issue is that it doesn't gracefully degrade when presented with 24bit color.
    - johncoltrane 2y ago
      Well, assuming 24bit—or anything from a terminal emulator, really—is not a very bright strategy.
      - crest 2y ago
        Depends on your colour palette :-P.
    - sengifluff 2y ago
      Tmux does, though! I used iTerm2 for a while before realising that tmux automatically maps 24-bit colors to 256color. It works well enough for me that I switched back to Terminal.app.
- johncoltrane 2y ago
  Which is not an issue for me as 256c is my sweet spot.

danyala 2y ago

Ghostty has the quake mode interface and has allowed me to overcome my shame for never graduating to iTerm. I can't remember much about the game except the giblets but hopefully I've understood.

alwyn 2y ago

The majority of configuration options in Windows Terminal are hidden in JSON. The GUI only exposes a fraction. They are doing work to expose more options in the GUI though. Having tried various alternatives for prolonged periods, it is currently IMHO the best option when you have to work on Windows. Mac and Linux options are just vastly ahead.

wkat4242 2y ago
Ah I see. I only used it since the beginning and I hated it and didn't go back. Certainly didn't explore json options :) Thanks! I really hate working on windows too and our company is tightening stuff down so crazily that I can hardly work anymore so I mostly work on my home lab in Linux and transfer stuff there. Totally not allowed by my employer but they make it impossible for me to work otherwise.