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He was the first American president to broker a serious Middle East peace agreement between Israel and a Middle Eastern nation (Egypt) - the Camp David Accord.

yyyk 2y ago
Ironically a result of rejecting Carter's proposal. Carter wanted a general ME conference. When Sadat heard of it, he decided it couldn't lead to peace as extremist elements would force an Arab consensus over the most radical position. So he set up the flight to Jerusalem and the rest is history. https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5047042,00.html https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5047042,00.html
mightyham 2y ago
What's ironic about this is that Egypt no longer poses a threat to Israel because of these peace agreements and reliance on American foreign aid. If this were not the case, Israel likely would not be a position such that they could pursue military attacks against Gaza and war in Lebanon.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  Interesting viewpoint, however I don't think that would stop Israel in Lebanon (which has not been aligned with Egypt), and probably not in Gaza either. It might have made Egypt more willing to open its border with Gaza, but could it really absorb 1-2 million refugees, as Jordan once did?
  - sitkack 2y ago
    That is exactly what Israel wants, so they can expropriate Gaza permanently.
- bhouston 2y ago
  My view of the future is that Israel’s borders will probably continue to expand opportunistically for the forseeable future. This is a doctrine known as Greater Israel. At some point the Egypt-Israel relationship could deteriorate and Israel could expand in that direction again. Overall expansionist/conquest urges are back in with Russia, US under Trump and Israel. We will probably see China also get into the act.
  - insane_dreamer 2y ago
    > Israel could expand in that direction again I agree that Israel harbors Zionist destructive ambitions, but it doesn't really extend beyond "Greater Israel" which is the extent of Israel in Biblical times under King David and King Solomon. That does not extend in Egypt's direction, but it does include Lebanon, Syria and Jordan, so it's no coincidence that Israel has pushed in those directions (southern Lebanon, Golan Heights, and the West Bank).
    - bhouston 2y ago
      The controversial Greater Israel army patch seen in Gaza includes Sinai and the western banks of the Red Sea as well as a bunch of Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Of course the end point of expansion is likely not predetermined.
      - settrans 2y ago
        Controversial, as in almost certainly made up anti-Israel propaganda? Ryan McBeth presents his thoughtful analysis and debunking here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8HWJ2v0R6k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8HWJ2v0R6k
        bhouston 2y ago
        I didn't say it was an official patch. Settler ambitions are real though: Settlement movement for Southern Lebanon: https://jewishcurrents.org/inside-the-movement-to-settle-southern-lebanon-uri-tzafon-israel https://jewishcurrents.org/inside-the-movement-to-settle-sou.... Unclear if this will happen, depends if Israel actually does withdraw fully or not. Resettlement movement for Gaza: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_Israeli_resettlement_of_the_Gaza_Strip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_Israeli_resettlement_.... This is likely to happen on Trumps watch in Northern Gaza. The General's Plan is clearing out Northern Gaza of Arabs as we speak. Permanent annexation of Golan Heights, and more land taken in Syria for the "foreseeable future": https://www.cbc.ca/news/israel-occupy-buffer-zone-syria-netanyahu-1.7413045 https://www.cbc.ca/news/israel-occupy-buffer-zone-syria-neta...
- aprilthird2021 2y ago
  Not exactly, they also overthrew the last (and only) democratically elected leader of the country to maintain this peace since the majority of the people don't want it
FilosofumRex 2y ago
and tragically enough, also the last American president to do so. The most Biden and before him Obama (during 2014 war), ever did was to delay arms delivery to Israel while threatening war against any country supply small arms to Palestine.

yyyk 2y ago

Ironically a result of rejecting Carter's proposal. Carter wanted a general ME conference. When Sadat heard of it, he decided it couldn't lead to peace as extremist elements would force an Arab consensus over the most radical position. So he set up the flight to Jerusalem and the rest is history. https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5047042,00.html https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5047042,00.html

mightyham 2y ago

What's ironic about this is that Egypt no longer poses a threat to Israel because of these peace agreements and reliance on American foreign aid. If this were not the case, Israel likely would not be a position such that they could pursue military attacks against Gaza and war in Lebanon.

insane_dreamer 2y ago
Interesting viewpoint, however I don't think that would stop Israel in Lebanon (which has not been aligned with Egypt), and probably not in Gaza either. It might have made Egypt more willing to open its border with Gaza, but could it really absorb 1-2 million refugees, as Jordan once did?
- sitkack 2y ago
  That is exactly what Israel wants, so they can expropriate Gaza permanently.
bhouston 2y ago
My view of the future is that Israel’s borders will probably continue to expand opportunistically for the forseeable future. This is a doctrine known as Greater Israel. At some point the Egypt-Israel relationship could deteriorate and Israel could expand in that direction again. Overall expansionist/conquest urges are back in with Russia, US under Trump and Israel. We will probably see China also get into the act.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  > Israel could expand in that direction again I agree that Israel harbors Zionist destructive ambitions, but it doesn't really extend beyond "Greater Israel" which is the extent of Israel in Biblical times under King David and King Solomon. That does not extend in Egypt's direction, but it does include Lebanon, Syria and Jordan, so it's no coincidence that Israel has pushed in those directions (southern Lebanon, Golan Heights, and the West Bank).
  - bhouston 2y ago
    The controversial Greater Israel army patch seen in Gaza includes Sinai and the western banks of the Red Sea as well as a bunch of Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Of course the end point of expansion is likely not predetermined.
    - settrans 2y ago
      Controversial, as in almost certainly made up anti-Israel propaganda? Ryan McBeth presents his thoughtful analysis and debunking here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8HWJ2v0R6k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8HWJ2v0R6k
      - bhouston 2y ago
        I didn't say it was an official patch. Settler ambitions are real though: Settlement movement for Southern Lebanon: https://jewishcurrents.org/inside-the-movement-to-settle-southern-lebanon-uri-tzafon-israel https://jewishcurrents.org/inside-the-movement-to-settle-sou.... Unclear if this will happen, depends if Israel actually does withdraw fully or not. Resettlement movement for Gaza: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_Israeli_resettlement_of_the_Gaza_Strip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_Israeli_resettlement_.... This is likely to happen on Trumps watch in Northern Gaza. The General's Plan is clearing out Northern Gaza of Arabs as we speak. Permanent annexation of Golan Heights, and more land taken in Syria for the "foreseeable future": https://www.cbc.ca/news/israel-occupy-buffer-zone-syria-netanyahu-1.7413045 https://www.cbc.ca/news/israel-occupy-buffer-zone-syria-neta...
aprilthird2021 2y ago
Not exactly, they also overthrew the last (and only) democratically elected leader of the country to maintain this peace since the majority of the people don't want it

FilosofumRex 2y ago

and tragically enough, also the last American president to do so. The most Biden and before him Obama (during 2014 war), ever did was to delay arms delivery to Israel while threatening war against any country supply small arms to Palestine.