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Founder/Former CEO Ian Crosby's post about the Bench closure: https://x.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790 https://x.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999

Founder/Former CEO Ian Crosby's post about the Bench closure: https://x.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790 https://x.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790

wslh 2y ago
With all due respect to the founder, it's impossible to know, even in hindsight, whether things in a startup would have been similar, better, or worse. This is not an endorsement to firing the CEO or saying that the board was capable in any way. This founder or CEO trap is more common that we think about. It is not only a Steve Jobs story. Founders know that giving equity and power to others include risks.
sumeno 2y ago
Is there a version readable for people without twitter accounts?
- vednig 2y ago
  https://unlace.app/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fianwcrosby%2Fstatus%2F1872724231999381790 https://unlace.app/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fianwcrosby%2Fs...
- tarr11 2y ago
  https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1872724231999381790.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1872724231999381790.html
- ckrailo 2y ago
  Swap the domain of the URL with nitter.poast.org https://nitter.poast.org/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790 https://nitter.poast.org/ianwcrosby/status/18727242319993817... More about nitter: https://github.com/zedeus/nitter https://github.com/zedeus/nitter
  - Tanoc 2y ago
    Nitter's been dead for about a year at this point. I'm pretty sure any Nitter instance still running is using some abstract method and not the actual Nitter system.
    - coldtrait 2y ago
      Yea I don't think there's an alternative after Elon made changes to Twitter's API
      - joshuahedlund 2y ago
        I don’t know how they do it but xcancel works pretty good https://xcancel.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790 https://xcancel.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790
    - KomoD 2y ago
      It's the same Nitter, but using real accounts instead of the "guest accounts" that were used previously. "Guest accounts" were accounts you could generate to access Twitter without actually signing up, but then Elon Musk killed them so then Nitter was basically declared dead because most people don't want to spend time making tons of actual accounts to run a Nitter instance and then Elon Musk also made the ratelimits stricter so you needed even more accounts. Some of the bigger Nitter instances used thousands of guest accounts.
- cebert 2y ago
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  - bdangubic 2y ago
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    - trg2 2y ago
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      - bdangubic 2y ago
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        jrflowers 2y ago
        > if your life is so empty you have to talk about elon you need to re-evaluate your life choices This post, that you’ve typed up and posted online, for all to see, is about your opinion of Elon Musk
        deleted 2y ago
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        Dylan16807 2y ago
        It is not.
        jrflowers 2y ago
        Yes it is. If they had written “if you’re posting about hamburgers you need to reevaluate your life” that would be a post expressing their opinion about hamburgers.
        Dylan16807 2y ago
- joshuahedlund 2y ago
  https://xcancel.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790 https://xcancel.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790
- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
  I used to use a site called Nitter for the same reason, but it stopped working. I think X/Twitter changed something.
ttul 2y ago
I advise caution in believing his statements to be true, particularly about Bench’s board and investors. The truth will live in their financial statements, which no doubt will be revealed in bankruptcy proceedings in the coming months.
- iwcrosby 2y ago
  Ian Crosby here. If you don't believe me, believe the CEO of Shopify who was an investor and partner: https://x.com/tobi/status/1872753436116332994 https://x.com/tobi/status/1872753436116332994
  - ttul 2y ago
    I’d like to clarify - and ought to have done above - that I’m not saying you’re lying in your Tweets. Just that the story of any business failure is often more nuanced than “investors are bad”. And that story may be revealed in court filings as I’m sure creditors will be going to court to get their money back in the coming months.
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - edoceo 2y ago
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    - jeanlucas 2y ago
      > "this is exactly what happened" In a direct reply to the thread. Well, it is confirming the original thread.
    - boxed 2y ago
      > every good ship can get a new captain and sail on. If not, the problem isn't the sailors it's the captain (who set the ship before the fall). You're seriously claiming a bad leader can't destroy a company/organization/project/country?

Founder/Former CEO Ian Crosby's post about the Bench closure: https://x.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790 https://x.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790

wslh 2y ago

With all due respect to the founder, it's impossible to know, even in hindsight, whether things in a startup would have been similar, better, or worse. This is not an endorsement to firing the CEO or saying that the board was capable in any way. This founder or CEO trap is more common that we think about. It is not only a Steve Jobs story. Founders know that giving equity and power to others include risks.

sumeno 2y ago

Is there a version readable for people without twitter accounts?

vednig 2y ago
https://unlace.app/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fianwcrosby%2Fstatus%2F1872724231999381790 https://unlace.app/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fianwcrosby%2Fs...
tarr11 2y ago
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1872724231999381790.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1872724231999381790.html
ckrailo 2y ago
Swap the domain of the URL with nitter.poast.org https://nitter.poast.org/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790 https://nitter.poast.org/ianwcrosby/status/18727242319993817... More about nitter: https://github.com/zedeus/nitter https://github.com/zedeus/nitter
- Tanoc 2y ago
  Nitter's been dead for about a year at this point. I'm pretty sure any Nitter instance still running is using some abstract method and not the actual Nitter system.
  - coldtrait 2y ago
    Yea I don't think there's an alternative after Elon made changes to Twitter's API
    - joshuahedlund 2y ago
      I don’t know how they do it but xcancel works pretty good https://xcancel.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790 https://xcancel.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790
  - KomoD 2y ago
    It's the same Nitter, but using real accounts instead of the "guest accounts" that were used previously. "Guest accounts" were accounts you could generate to access Twitter without actually signing up, but then Elon Musk killed them so then Nitter was basically declared dead because most people don't want to spend time making tons of actual accounts to run a Nitter instance and then Elon Musk also made the ratelimits stricter so you needed even more accounts. Some of the bigger Nitter instances used thousands of guest accounts.
cebert 2y ago
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- bdangubic 2y ago
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  - trg2 2y ago
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    - bdangubic 2y ago
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      - jrflowers 2y ago
        > if your life is so empty you have to talk about elon you need to re-evaluate your life choices This post, that you’ve typed up and posted online, for all to see, is about your opinion of Elon Musk
        deleted 2y ago
        [deleted]
        Dylan16807 2y ago
        It is not.
        jrflowers 2y ago
        Yes it is. If they had written “if you’re posting about hamburgers you need to reevaluate your life” that would be a post expressing their opinion about hamburgers.
        Dylan16807 2y ago
joshuahedlund 2y ago
https://xcancel.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790 https://xcancel.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790
blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
I used to use a site called Nitter for the same reason, but it stopped working. I think X/Twitter changed something.

ttul 2y ago

I advise caution in believing his statements to be true, particularly about Bench’s board and investors. The truth will live in their financial statements, which no doubt will be revealed in bankruptcy proceedings in the coming months.

iwcrosby 2y ago
Ian Crosby here. If you don't believe me, believe the CEO of Shopify who was an investor and partner: https://x.com/tobi/status/1872753436116332994 https://x.com/tobi/status/1872753436116332994
- ttul 2y ago
  I’d like to clarify - and ought to have done above - that I’m not saying you’re lying in your Tweets. Just that the story of any business failure is often more nuanced than “investors are bad”. And that story may be revealed in court filings as I’m sure creditors will be going to court to get their money back in the coming months.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
- edoceo 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - jeanlucas 2y ago
    > "this is exactly what happened" In a direct reply to the thread. Well, it is confirming the original thread.
  - boxed 2y ago
    > every good ship can get a new captain and sail on. If not, the problem isn't the sailors it's the captain (who set the ship before the fall). You're seriously claiming a bad leader can't destroy a company/organization/project/country?