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'AI-powered judge' takes boxing closer to brave new world it appears to seek
- teraklj 2y ago[flagged]
- LPisGood 2y ago> Why are ostensibly religious people interested in replacing humans? I’m not sure what you mean here. As far as I’m aware, “preventing humans being replaced with technology” is not a component of many religions.
- throwaway123812 2y agoOk, then we could replace the boxers with robots, too. And perhaps the Saudi royals with an AI.
- NeutralCrane 2y agoHave you watched Battlebots? It’s pretty entertaining.
- nradov 2y agoThe Saudis literally replaced human camel jockeys with robots. https://www.npr.org/2007/05/22/10304576/robot-jockeys-give-camel-racing-a-modern-twist https://www.npr.org/2007/05/22/10304576/robot-jockeys-give-c...
- lalalali 2y agoI don’t you your personal scale of religion ostensibility, but in mine USA is veryyyyy religious from the culture to the government and isn’t shy on AI. The more you learn about someone the more the contradictions became parts of a complex logical scheme.
- throwaway123812 2y ago[dead]
- nonrandomstring 2y agoIf one is going to connect religion and "AI" a good point of intersection is idolatry [0]. Though whether the human embodies the divine is a further question. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idolatry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idolatry
- philip1209 2y agoCan it also detect traumatic brain injuries?
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- ianbooker 2y agoMost sports would profit from a deeper understanding and application of statistical inference. Or even of descriptive statistics. The fun lays in the operationalization, a step most applications of AI will likely omit, since AI will work out the dimensions of the data by itself. Boxing for example could calculate the amount of kinetic energy brought to the table and how much of it landed or was sidestepped. How much was absorbed? Not easy to do, but also not impossible.
- lazide 2y agoFrankly, boxing fans seem the least likely to care?
- shadowerm 2y agoNo, this is a stupid idea for people who don't know anything about boxing. Effective aggression and ring generalship are subjective human judgements. Boxing results are varied because in a championship fight, many times rounds will be completely subjective. If you made boxing judged by AI, the rules would quickly be gamed. I suspect it would turn into a contest of jab/output and completely ruin boxing. What ultimately makes boxing great is a fight today doesn't look that much different than a fight 100 years ago. That is the whole fun of it. It is a really a symptom of a culture obsessed with scientism. As if adding a bullshit layer of scientism makes things somehow better and "smarter".
- jstummbillig 2y agoI don't understand. Why would an AI judge inherently be more perceptible to being gamed than a human judge?
- sbelskie 2y agoI believe the argument would be that humans are inconsistent, fallible, and gameable in idiosyncratic and individual ways not that they are less susceptible than AI.
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- magic_man 2y agoThe ai judge scored it 118-112. Usyk won the fight, but maybe by 2-3 rounds and not 6. Boxing is way too subjective.
- whycombagator 2y agoI had it 116-112 and had the first as a swing round that I gave to fury. To me it was usyk controlling the fight. The commentators would have you believe otherwise. Remember that, when ring side, fights look different depending on where you sit, which could explain some of this. Deep Strike was only run on only the public feed and not a quad feed as is preferred.
- yzydserd 2y agoI didn’t see it mentioned in the article but rumours are the tech is DeepStrike by the Danish company Jabbr. https://jabbr.ai/deepstrike https://jabbr.ai/deepstrike Fury’s expletive laden review (video): https://www.sportbible.com/boxing/boxing-news/tyson-fury-oleksandr-usyk-ai-judge-scorecard-970551-20241222 https://www.sportbible.com/boxing/boxing-news/tyson-fury-ole... > “Absolutely s*t. Here's what, f*k all the computers. Keep the humans going. More jobs for humans, less jobs for computers. And f*k electric cars too while we're at it.”
- kristianc 2y agoThe AI appeared to be absolutely right, however. There wasn’t a single round where Fury landed more punches.
- parodysbird 2y agoAre we sure the CompuBox punch stats weren't part of the input for the model after each round?
- 0x696C6961 2y agoThey should put impact sensors inside the the gloves and use those readings to flash points on the screen video game style.
- ThatMedicIsASpy 2y agoCongrats this website features a video where it provides the same as an audio only interview. But if you scroll down or up it stops. If you leave the tab it stops. Thanks for nothing. I hate the internet. Stop forcing me to change my behavior when you are the one who is wrong.
- dang 2y ago"Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- julianeon 2y agoFor a sport as impure as boxing, I feel like there's nothing left to lose. We might as well use it as a test bed for experimental ideas.
- tolerance 2y agoAh. The dissolution of the 'the sweet science' by a science that is indifferent to taste. AI continues to draw attention to both the flaws that age-old customs accumulate over time and remind us of the more intimate aspects that have been lost as custom turns into commodity.
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- AymanJabr 2y agoShitty hit piece, nothing to do with brave new world (doubt the author has even read it), you can go claim your check from whatever think-tank hired you.
- the-chitmonger 2y agoAs someone whose favorite book was Brave New World growing up, I've found that it's unfortunately become a catchall for any technological breakthrough with (ostensibly) chilling ramifications for the future.