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Ah, classic regulatory theater. The administration, after 4 years of not introducing these changes, is now suddenly scrambling to roll them out. They’re droppin

Ah, classic regulatory theater. The administration, after 4 years of not introducing these changes, is now suddenly scrambling to roll them out. They’re dropping them right before a major transition, with an implementation timeline conveniently set for after the transition. It’s a clever little maneuver. When the inevitable reversal happens, they can show up at fundraising galas telling donors, “We tried! We were so close! It’s just those baddies who always come along and pull the rug.”

laidoffamazon 2y ago
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lesuorac 2y ago
Eh downvote. The USG has to go through a very length period of coming up with a proposed rule. Allowing comments to be made about it, adjusting (or not) the rule based on those comments, and then finally submitting the final rule. Nobody at USCIS wrote this document yesterday and published this today. This is the result of years of work. Do you seriously expect the USG to shut down anything they don't think they can finish under the current administration?
- fasdfdsava 2y ago
  Maybe it's a total coincidence that this final rule takes effect the Friday, January 17 and Trump's inauguration is Monday, January 20th. But I sort of wonder.
- akira2501 2y ago
  > has to go through a very length period Doesn't the bottom of this announcement describe a previous rule that was announced in January 2024 and then implemented in March 2024? Interesting that rules process was far more rapid than this one.
  - lesuorac 2y ago
    And? So a different related rule started its process awhile back and a second rule was in the works concurrently. Is the USG only allowed to do one thing at a time? The comment period for this rule ended last year to give you an idea of how long this has at least been in the works. All of this information is rapidly found via the submitted url at the top of the page. https://www.regulations.gov/docket/USCIS-2023-0005/document https://www.regulations.gov/docket/USCIS-2023-0005/document
    - akira2501 2y ago
      It's the same question. What decides when a long process and comment period is required and when it isn't? Why does this agency have such variable performance when it comes to similar rulings?
  - pavon 2y ago
    The announcement in January was the end of the process, not the start. Here is the timeline of that previous rule: 2021-02-02: President Biden issued Executive Order (E.O.) 14012[0] 2021-04-19: Request for Public Input begins[1] 2021-05-19: Request for Public Input ends[2] 2023-10-23: Notice of Proposed Rulemaking. Comment period begins[3] 2023-12-11: Comment period ends 2024-01-30: Final Rulemaking announced[4] 2024-02-02: Regulations are published in federal register[5] 2024-03-06: Rules take effect [0]https://www.federalregister.gov/executive-order/14012 https://www.federalregister.gov/executive-order/14012 [1]https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/04/19/2021-07987/identifying-barriers-across-us-citizenship-and-immigration-services-uscis-benefits-and-services https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/04/19/2021-07... [2]https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/04/26/C1-2021-07987/identifying-barriers-across-us-citizenship-and-immigration-services-uscis-benefits-and-services https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/04/26/C1-2021... [3]https://www.regulations.gov/docket/USCIS-2023-0005/unified-agenda https://www.regulations.gov/docket/USCIS-2023-0005/unified-a... [4]https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/uscis-announces-strengthened-integrity-measures-for-h-1b-program https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/uscis-announces... [5]https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/02/02/2024-01770/improving-the-h-1b-registration-selection-process-and-program-integrity https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/02/02/2024-01...
DrillShopper 2y ago
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xiphias2 2y ago
It's not the only last minute thing the administration does that it could have done before: - Launched rockets from Ukraine - remote work contracts extended to 2029 after Elon + Vivek wants people to RTO - TikTok ban And the classic answer is always the same here: ,,it was all planned for years'' (sure, but the decision is made after the elections on purpose)
- wat10000 2y ago
  We all know how a distant deadline can make us slack off. Then suddenly the deadline is in three months instead of four years, you’ll discover a bunch of things you could do faster. That’s not to excuse the slowness, but I imagine this stuff was in process for a while.
  - InsideOutSanta 2y ago
    Parkinson's law: "work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion."
- tssva 2y ago
  The decision regarding TikTok was not made after the election and the law was passed with strong bi-partisan support.
- frankzinger 2y ago
  I'm surprised to see somebody presumably on the Republican side complaining about norm violations.
jonny_eh 2y ago
Regardless, these are good changes, I hope they stick around.
rbanffy 2y ago
> The administration, after 4 years of not introducing these changes They might have spent the last four years negotiating what exactly the changes would ideally be. Government doesn’t work well with the “let’s see what sticks approach”.
- patrickhogan1 2y ago
  Negotiating with who? This is an executive power. USCIS - the President can modify regulations, such as how H-1B applications are processed or the criteria used in selection lotteries.
  - bubblethink 2y ago
    There is rulemaking process that takes time. It has to go through notice and comment period, withstand lawsuits, etc. I agree with your overall point though, that this admin was utterly spineless and useless.
eweise 2y ago
It will make Trump look great reversing a policy that steals good paying jobs from Americans.
- intermerda 2y ago
  Capitalism is good! No not like that!
cyberax 2y ago
> Ah, classic regulatory theater. No, the classic people not understanding how the government works. These are changes that were done through the rule-making process, not legislation. The rule-making process is (by design!) VERY SLOW to give the stakeholders a chance to voice their opinion. Typical rules take about 2 years to be implemented. And I guess Biden hoped to get a real immigration reform that would have made these changes unnecessary.
root_axis 2y ago
Unlikely to be reversed. The incoming president's largest donor strongly favors a larger and more dynamic H1-B work force.
- n144q 2y ago
  The same president used coronavirus as an excuse to ban all H1B entries.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    those were then times, now billionaires shelled out a whole lot of money to put him in power and payback time is coming. h1b may double/triple/… in the coming years. policy will be to keep “bad people out” (southern border) while taking in a bunch of “smart people, best people” from other countries
- sitkack 2y ago
  Anything to keep wages down.
khazhoux 2y ago
It’s fascinating how many government policies take 3 years and 11 months to implement.
- pfannkuchen 2y ago
  To play devil’s advocate, many if not most software projects that launch on time press right up against the deadline. Work expands to fill the space available, as they say.
- Jcampuzano2 2y ago
  3 years and 11 months or 7 years and 11 months, conveniently with no middle ground in between.

laidoffamazon 2y ago

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lesuorac 2y ago

Eh downvote. The USG has to go through a very length period of coming up with a proposed rule. Allowing comments to be made about it, adjusting (or not) the rule based on those comments, and then finally submitting the final rule. Nobody at USCIS wrote this document yesterday and published this today. This is the result of years of work. Do you seriously expect the USG to shut down anything they don't think they can finish under the current administration?

fasdfdsava 2y ago
Maybe it's a total coincidence that this final rule takes effect the Friday, January 17 and Trump's inauguration is Monday, January 20th. But I sort of wonder.
akira2501 2y ago
> has to go through a very length period Doesn't the bottom of this announcement describe a previous rule that was announced in January 2024 and then implemented in March 2024? Interesting that rules process was far more rapid than this one.
- lesuorac 2y ago
  And? So a different related rule started its process awhile back and a second rule was in the works concurrently. Is the USG only allowed to do one thing at a time? The comment period for this rule ended last year to give you an idea of how long this has at least been in the works. All of this information is rapidly found via the submitted url at the top of the page. https://www.regulations.gov/docket/USCIS-2023-0005/document https://www.regulations.gov/docket/USCIS-2023-0005/document
  - akira2501 2y ago
    It's the same question. What decides when a long process and comment period is required and when it isn't? Why does this agency have such variable performance when it comes to similar rulings?
- pavon 2y ago
  The announcement in January was the end of the process, not the start. Here is the timeline of that previous rule: 2021-02-02: President Biden issued Executive Order (E.O.) 14012[0] 2021-04-19: Request for Public Input begins[1] 2021-05-19: Request for Public Input ends[2] 2023-10-23: Notice of Proposed Rulemaking. Comment period begins[3] 2023-12-11: Comment period ends 2024-01-30: Final Rulemaking announced[4] 2024-02-02: Regulations are published in federal register[5] 2024-03-06: Rules take effect [0]https://www.federalregister.gov/executive-order/14012 https://www.federalregister.gov/executive-order/14012 [1]https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/04/19/2021-07987/identifying-barriers-across-us-citizenship-and-immigration-services-uscis-benefits-and-services https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/04/19/2021-07... [2]https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/04/26/C1-2021-07987/identifying-barriers-across-us-citizenship-and-immigration-services-uscis-benefits-and-services https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/04/26/C1-2021... [3]https://www.regulations.gov/docket/USCIS-2023-0005/unified-agenda https://www.regulations.gov/docket/USCIS-2023-0005/unified-a... [4]https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/uscis-announces-strengthened-integrity-measures-for-h-1b-program https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/uscis-announces... [5]https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/02/02/2024-01770/improving-the-h-1b-registration-selection-process-and-program-integrity https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/02/02/2024-01...

DrillShopper 2y ago

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xiphias2 2y ago

It's not the only last minute thing the administration does that it could have done before: - Launched rockets from Ukraine - remote work contracts extended to 2029 after Elon + Vivek wants people to RTO - TikTok ban And the classic answer is always the same here: ,,it was all planned for years'' (sure, but the decision is made after the elections on purpose)

wat10000 2y ago
We all know how a distant deadline can make us slack off. Then suddenly the deadline is in three months instead of four years, you’ll discover a bunch of things you could do faster. That’s not to excuse the slowness, but I imagine this stuff was in process for a while.
- InsideOutSanta 2y ago
  Parkinson's law: "work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion."
tssva 2y ago
The decision regarding TikTok was not made after the election and the law was passed with strong bi-partisan support.
frankzinger 2y ago
I'm surprised to see somebody presumably on the Republican side complaining about norm violations.

jonny_eh 2y ago

Regardless, these are good changes, I hope they stick around.

rbanffy 2y ago

> The administration, after 4 years of not introducing these changes They might have spent the last four years negotiating what exactly the changes would ideally be. Government doesn’t work well with the “let’s see what sticks approach”.

patrickhogan1 2y ago
Negotiating with who? This is an executive power. USCIS - the President can modify regulations, such as how H-1B applications are processed or the criteria used in selection lotteries.
- bubblethink 2y ago
  There is rulemaking process that takes time. It has to go through notice and comment period, withstand lawsuits, etc. I agree with your overall point though, that this admin was utterly spineless and useless.

eweise 2y ago

It will make Trump look great reversing a policy that steals good paying jobs from Americans.

intermerda 2y ago
Capitalism is good! No not like that!

cyberax 2y ago

> Ah, classic regulatory theater. No, the classic people not understanding how the government works. These are changes that were done through the rule-making process, not legislation. The rule-making process is (by design!) VERY SLOW to give the stakeholders a chance to voice their opinion. Typical rules take about 2 years to be implemented. And I guess Biden hoped to get a real immigration reform that would have made these changes unnecessary.

root_axis 2y ago

Unlikely to be reversed. The incoming president's largest donor strongly favors a larger and more dynamic H1-B work force.

n144q 2y ago
The same president used coronavirus as an excuse to ban all H1B entries.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  those were then times, now billionaires shelled out a whole lot of money to put him in power and payback time is coming. h1b may double/triple/… in the coming years. policy will be to keep “bad people out” (southern border) while taking in a bunch of “smart people, best people” from other countries
sitkack 2y ago
Anything to keep wages down.

khazhoux 2y ago

It’s fascinating how many government policies take 3 years and 11 months to implement.

pfannkuchen 2y ago
To play devil’s advocate, many if not most software projects that launch on time press right up against the deadline. Work expands to fill the space available, as they say.
Jcampuzano2 2y ago
3 years and 11 months or 7 years and 11 months, conveniently with no middle ground in between.