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I appreciated the thought given in this piece. However in the age of LLMs these types of "what if we look at problems this way..." seem obsolete. Instead of a
by doug_durham 2y ago
I appreciated the thought given in this piece. However in the age of LLMs these types of "what if we look at problems this way..." seem obsolete. Instead of asking the question, just use an LLM to help you build the proof of concept and see if it works.
Back in the pre-LLM days these types of thought pieces made sense as a call to action because the economics of creating sophisticated proof's of concept was beyond the abilities of any one person. Now you can create implementations and iterate at nearly the speed of thought. Instead of telling people about your idea, show people your idea.
- ilaksh 2y agoI'm kind of with you in that you could build something kind of like it based on a fast LLM. But what they are actually talking about is a new cutting edge ML model that takes a huge amount of data and compute to train.
- doug_durham 2y agoI see your point, but that's not what I took away from the article. To me it seems like an alternate way to use existing models. In any case I think you could make a PoC that touched on main idea using an existing model.
- ilaksh 2y agoYes you can and there is at least one example, a web application where you enter a URL and the LLM automatically generates the page including links, you click a link, the LLM fills it in on the fly. I can't remember the name of it. But they mention things like Oasis in the article that use a specialized model to generate games frame-by-frame.
- achierius 2y agoBut LLMs are nowhere near being able to do what you suggest, for anything that one person wouldn't have been able to do beforehand.
- llm_trw 2y agoIf I cared enough about guis I could implement what the op said in two months by myself with unlimited access to a good coding model, something like qwq. The issue is training a multi modal model that can make use of said gui. I don't believe that there is a better general interface than text however so I won't bother.
- throw646577 2y agoNo amount of repeating is ever, unfortunately, going to get this across; LLMs are founding a new kind of alchemy.
- bobxmax 2y agoThey absolutely are. I'm somewhat non-technical but I've been using Claude to hack MVPs together for months now.
- doug_durham 2y agoNot in my experience. Used properly an LLM is an immense accelerator. Every time this comes up on HN we get the same debate. There is the side that say LLMs are time wasting toys, and the other which says they are transformative. You need to know how critically ask questions and critique answers to use a search engine effectively. The same is true for an LLM. Once you learn how to pose your questions and the correct level to ask your questions it is a massive accelerator.
- beepbooptheory 2y agoIf we are never going to take the time to write, articulate, or even think about things anymore, how can we still feel like we have the authority or skills or even context to evaluate what we generate?
- dartos 2y ago> because the economics of creating sophisticated proof's of concept was beyond the abilities of any one person What? Are you trying to say it’s too expensive for a single worker to make a POC, or that one person can’t make a POC? Either way that’s not true at all… There have been one person software shops for a long long time.