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> along with my wifi router I'm all about eliminating phones, but I'm curious to know what you accomplished for several hours without network connectivity in g

> along with my wifi router I'm all about eliminating phones, but I'm curious to know what you accomplished for several hours without network connectivity in general. Whether I've been working from home or in an office, a network outage basically meant taking the rest of the day off because nothing could actually get done.

LoganDark 2y ago
> I'm curious to know what you accomplished for several hours without network connectivity in general. Making your bed, organizing your room, taking a shower / getting a haircut, doing laundry, whatever. You know, the stuff people tend to get behind on.
- Aeolun 2y ago
  People get behind on taking a shower? Amongst that list it seems the only one you can’t skip out on. Unless you start putting on dirty laundry. That’s probably worse.
  - OJFord 2y ago
    Depends what you mean by 'get behind on' I guess? I'm a 'morning' showerer, because my hair looks insane before a shower, but if there's nothing to particularly make me need/want to look presentable (obviously I'm not properly dressed having not showered either) particularly early then yeah I can get behind on showering.
  - pbhjpbhj 2y ago
    It kinda blows my mind if not only have you never missed taking a shower but you can't even imagine a situation in which that mighty happen. That aside, people have depression, or no access to a shower, and so miss showering for weeks even. Amongst other reasons.
    - Aeolun 2y ago
      I find it hard to call something ‘get behind on’ if you have no ability to do it in the first place. Getting behind on something implies it is possible and you choose (conciously or unconciously) not to.
  - LoganDark 2y ago
    Without going into too much detail... ADHD exists.
geerlingguy 2y ago
Presumably some of the other 1,000 things to be done. On my procrastination list right now: replace bathroom faucet, replace bathroom fan, replace belt in car, clean out garage floor, dust servers in my rack, move rack to new location, decommission old server in rack, clean wood floor, clean oven, caulk around the bathtub, finish reading about 20 books I have only read halfway through... could go on and on.
- tayo42 2y ago
  Most of that list would require me to have YouTube or something up explaining how to do to, so I'd need a network to be productive lol
  - eimrine 2y ago
    It will not help you because bathroom fans may have different ways to disassemble them, car belts may have different bolts position etc. You either can work with electricity wires or not, no third option, and the difference is mostly comes from having read or not having read the book (every country has a different one). For me the list is so boring that it requires me to have a device yelling some podcasts while I am solving such a mind-numbing issues.
    - RussianCow 2y ago
      > You either can work with electricity wires or not, no third option As someone who has used The Internet™ as a reference for more projects than I can count, I strongly disagree with this. There is definitely a middle ground where you know just enough to do some basic things on your own and feel comfortable venturing a bit deeper, but not without some help. > It will not help you because bathroom fans may have different ways to disassemble them, car belts may have different bolts position etc. I dunno, I can usually find at least one guide online for how to do a specific thing with a specific model of something. Search "change timing belt $year $make $model" and you'll get at least a handful of videos walking you through the whole process. Having said all of that, this entire discussion is a bit moot because it's easy enough to download YouTube videos or tutorials locally ahead of time and pull them up on a tablet without internet access.
s1artibartfast 2y ago
I'm guessing this wasn't for a remote work day. Things I need to do tomorrow include oil change on my truck, laundry, trip to the hardware store, fix the sink, and call my parents. I don't need the Internet for any of those, and checking the news can social media when I roll out of bed won't help anything. At worst, it might derail my day.
NiloCK 2y ago
... writing code? git commits are local things.
andai 2y ago
It was a solo project involving mostly creative work: curriculum design, game design, programming, writing tutorials. I found myself missing Google for language and API related questions frequently, so I used DevDocs, a website that can also "install" itself in the browser to work offline. For the stuff I couldn't find there, I just made a note to Google it after lunch and worked around it or switched tasks. Note that this was before LLMs got good at programming / saying mostly true things, so there was no loss from not having access to them. Recently I've been experimenting with local LLMs, though they're not quite there yet (the ones I can run at least), and they're already fun enough to be distracting!

LoganDark 2y ago

> I'm curious to know what you accomplished for several hours without network connectivity in general. Making your bed, organizing your room, taking a shower / getting a haircut, doing laundry, whatever. You know, the stuff people tend to get behind on.

Aeolun 2y ago
People get behind on taking a shower? Amongst that list it seems the only one you can’t skip out on. Unless you start putting on dirty laundry. That’s probably worse.
- OJFord 2y ago
  Depends what you mean by 'get behind on' I guess? I'm a 'morning' showerer, because my hair looks insane before a shower, but if there's nothing to particularly make me need/want to look presentable (obviously I'm not properly dressed having not showered either) particularly early then yeah I can get behind on showering.
- pbhjpbhj 2y ago
  It kinda blows my mind if not only have you never missed taking a shower but you can't even imagine a situation in which that mighty happen. That aside, people have depression, or no access to a shower, and so miss showering for weeks even. Amongst other reasons.
  - Aeolun 2y ago
    I find it hard to call something ‘get behind on’ if you have no ability to do it in the first place. Getting behind on something implies it is possible and you choose (conciously or unconciously) not to.
- LoganDark 2y ago
  Without going into too much detail... ADHD exists.

geerlingguy 2y ago

Presumably some of the other 1,000 things to be done. On my procrastination list right now: replace bathroom faucet, replace bathroom fan, replace belt in car, clean out garage floor, dust servers in my rack, move rack to new location, decommission old server in rack, clean wood floor, clean oven, caulk around the bathtub, finish reading about 20 books I have only read halfway through... could go on and on.

tayo42 2y ago
Most of that list would require me to have YouTube or something up explaining how to do to, so I'd need a network to be productive lol
- eimrine 2y ago
  It will not help you because bathroom fans may have different ways to disassemble them, car belts may have different bolts position etc. You either can work with electricity wires or not, no third option, and the difference is mostly comes from having read or not having read the book (every country has a different one). For me the list is so boring that it requires me to have a device yelling some podcasts while I am solving such a mind-numbing issues.
  - RussianCow 2y ago
    > You either can work with electricity wires or not, no third option As someone who has used The Internet™ as a reference for more projects than I can count, I strongly disagree with this. There is definitely a middle ground where you know just enough to do some basic things on your own and feel comfortable venturing a bit deeper, but not without some help. > It will not help you because bathroom fans may have different ways to disassemble them, car belts may have different bolts position etc. I dunno, I can usually find at least one guide online for how to do a specific thing with a specific model of something. Search "change timing belt $year $make $model" and you'll get at least a handful of videos walking you through the whole process. Having said all of that, this entire discussion is a bit moot because it's easy enough to download YouTube videos or tutorials locally ahead of time and pull them up on a tablet without internet access.

s1artibartfast 2y ago

I'm guessing this wasn't for a remote work day. Things I need to do tomorrow include oil change on my truck, laundry, trip to the hardware store, fix the sink, and call my parents. I don't need the Internet for any of those, and checking the news can social media when I roll out of bed won't help anything. At worst, it might derail my day.

NiloCK 2y ago

... writing code? git commits are local things.

andai 2y ago

It was a solo project involving mostly creative work: curriculum design, game design, programming, writing tutorials. I found myself missing Google for language and API related questions frequently, so I used DevDocs, a website that can also "install" itself in the browser to work offline. For the stuff I couldn't find there, I just made a note to Google it after lunch and worked around it or switched tasks. Note that this was before LLMs got good at programming / saying mostly true things, so there was no loss from not having access to them. Recently I've been experimenting with local LLMs, though they're not quite there yet (the ones I can run at least), and they're already fun enough to be distracting!