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> How can anyone know these aren't a threat without knowing whose they are They are - obviously - lying. This screams secrecy to me. All 3 know that these dron
by selfmodruntime 2y ago
> How can anyone know these aren't a threat without knowing whose they are
They are - obviously - lying. This screams secrecy to me. All 3 know that these drones are not a threat. They aren't US military because they are a 3 letter agency program. They know there's nothing to worry about it, but they won't tell you any more details. Which has been the modus operandi for secret services for decades, so I'm surprised it's such an issue?
- rjrdi38dbbdb 2y agoI think what's so surprising is that they would run a secretive program in such a conspicuous manner, not that the secretive program exists.
- cheschire 2y agoCan you think of a better way to normalize it? Think about the average persons response to online privacy these days for a good indicator about how people will feel about drone monitoring in a few years if this is normalized.
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- Gwiz462 2y agoMaybe that is why they are only being tested in the Coastal states.
- wrigby 2y agoPlease don't do this. You're not going to hit a drone at any appreciable altitude from a "high window" with a "nice rifle." One of the first rules of putting bullets downrange is to know what's behind your target, and you simply can't know that when you're shooting into the air. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire#Injuries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire#Injuries
- pjc50 2y agoIt's kind of amazing that you can post incitement to terrorism on HN. People have been jailed for using high-power laser pointers against aircraft.
- shagie 2y agoThe FAA classifies drones as aircraft. https://www.faa.gov/Air_traffic/Publications/atpubs/aim_html/chap11_section_2.html https://www.faa.gov/Air_traffic/Publications/atpubs/aim_html... Damaging an aircraft is considered criminal aircraft sabotage under 18 U.S.C. 32 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/32 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/32 https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-2-aircraft-sabotage-18-usc-32 https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual... There is nothing in there about if the aircraft is legally or illegally operated. https://dronedj.com/2024/06/30/florida-walmart-delivery-drone-shooting/ https://dronedj.com/2024/06/30/florida-walmart-delivery-dron... And for more resources for drone pilots: https://www.dronepilotgroundschool.com/shooting-drone/ https://www.dronepilotgroundschool.com/shooting-drone/ --- Firing on drones is a good way to lose your freedoms and even beyond that one's rights to have firearms.
- AdamJacobMuller 2y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E54YtvmRKAM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E54YtvmRKAM
- fasa99 2y agoExactly. That's what I think it is, government secrecy as their standard operating procedure. When unsure, don't say anything. After all, disclosing the public includes adversaries also knowing. It seems to me what's happening is a "Streisand Effect" where the whole attitude of "go away, nothing to see here" is in fact maximizing attention and defeating the purpose of hiding this away. If it were me I'd put a band-aid on a drone, fly it to a person, and say, "we are testing military capabilities to render first aid to our soldiers" or something similar. It's not a lie, it's good optics, adversaries can worry about it... then put whatever it is on ice for a while until the heat dies down
- 1oooqooq 2y agoa shining example of a functioning democracy.
- khushy 2y ago[dead]
- addandsubtract 2y agoIf you wanted to find out whose they are, just follow them and see where they land, and who picks them up?
- diggan 2y ago> just follow them How exactly do you follow a fixed-wing drone? Some of the high-end/industrial drones has pretty impressive ranges.
- j2bax 2y agoWith a fixed wing drone of your own of course!
- red_admiral 2y agoYeah, unless someone really really big is behind this (or it's aliens), then a US military drone should be able to track and follow one of the unknown drones for a while.
- nradov 2y agoNah. None of the publicly acknowledged US military drones carries the type of X-band air search radar that would be necessary to reliably track a small aerial target. There is some stuff in development with that capability but it hasn't been fielded yet, and for safety reasons it certainly wouldn't be authorized for flight in controlled civilian airspace or over populated areas.
- falcor84 2y agoWell, there's a lot of evidence that humans evolved to be persistence hunters, so we just need to continue this process and adapt further.
- potato3732842 2y agoYou pay a bunch of money to someone who has a Dash 8 or similar common commercial aircraft. These drones probably don't have 1000mi range. And even if you can't follow one all the way to its destination you can still take some real good pictures with flash and plaster them all over the news and wait for someone to say "I pump fuel and sweep floors at airport X and a bunch of dickbags with black suburbans and bad attitudes have a hanger full of those things".
- curt15 2y agoShoot one down and see who comes knocking?
- rmbyrro 2y agoCareful who you wish on your door...
- weard_beard 2y ago[flagged]
- tuyiown 2y agoI don't know much about america, but after shooting down a secret drone, you really would assume that people knocking at your door really is the situation you think it is ?
- KumaBear 2y agoPeople like this talk a big game but the warrant will be written and they will comply. Always the online warriors that act tough but always fold.
- mrguyorama 2y agoAll this talk about "2nd amendment is about deposing tyranny" and yet they weren't the ones protesting the wars in the middle east and the Patriot act, two recent and objectively tyrannical acts. In fact, we know that the gun nuts in the US were broadly on the side of SUPPORTING those two things.
- next_xibalba 2y agoI think you're importing heavy bias into your interpretation. 2A types are interested in deposing tyranny when its directed against them by their own government. Not tyranny anywhere on the face of the Earth. If that's true, and I do believe it is, it is not at all incompatible with foreign wars, whether one believes they're tyrannical or not.
- j_timberlake 2y agoThese are the least-bad theories, but if an agency is desperate enough to deploy the drones night after night even after being noticed, then that's extremely foreboding. What would drive them to do that, a dirty bomb that needs to be found with drone sensors? Personally I'd rather have evidence of this before dwelling on all the possible tragedies here.
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