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Who Is Jay Graber, the CEO of Bluesky?
- bargainbot3k 2y ago[flagged]
- dyauspitr 2y ago[flagged]
- bargainbot3k 2y ago[flagged]
- sctb 2y agoFrom the linked interview at https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/25/24108872/bluesky-ceo-graber-federation-social-media-decoder-interview https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/25/24108872/bluesky-ceo-grab...: > And so, mid-2021, they interviewed me along with some other folks and then chose me to lead Bluesky based on this vision that I pitched for how we were going to build Bluesky, which is essentially how we’ve built it. And so that’s how I got involved.
- PKop 2y agoWhy do they always use "folks" in place of the word people?
- jayd16 2y agoRegional slang. "Those people" can sound a bit cold/distancing when folks feels a bit warmer.
- jcims 2y agoI’m sure it varies but I’m from the midwest and it’s just regional vernacular. It’s what I would say if I were speaking instead of writing.
- diggan 2y agoI'm Swedish and use "folks" when talking/writing English all the times, just sounds more informal, cozy and folksy so that's what I usually go with.
- PKop 2y agoI am too and no one says it more than silicon valley or other urban dwelling politically active leftists. All my life I never heard it much at all until it became some cultural linguistic trend in early 2000's once Obama said it. edit: Seems like relatively recent trend, probably has peaked [0]. I'm not the only one that noticed [1][2] [0] https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=folks&year_start=1940&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=false https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=folks&year_sta... [1] https://newrepublic.com/article/156807/politicians-always-talking-folks-obama-biden https://newrepublic.com/article/156807/politicians-always-ta... [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=rise+in+popularity+of+the+word+%22folks%22 https://www.google.com/search?q=rise+in+popularity+of+the+wo...
- rsynnott 2y ago… I mean, yeah, the language changes. People do not use exactly the same words at exactly the same frequency as they did 20 years ago. That’s how English works. Don’t like it? Go live in France. (French changes, too, but in that case there is some active effort to stop it changing.)
- PKop 2y agoIt's a political signifier and should be recognized as such, is what I'm saying. As the New Republic described, it was a rhetorical "tic" of Obama, and is the same for other left wing types. It comes off as weird to me; not everyone uses it but a certain type over uses it a lot. So this is recognizable.
- nozzlegear 2y agoWhy did you use the word "always" in place of the word "often?" I doubt there was any motive behind it.
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- urbanredeemer 2y agoI noticed this trend take off during Obama’s first term. He used “folks” often in speeches and interviews. It caught on as a word that implies cultural unity and common heritage without actually referencing a specific culture or people.
- sa1 2y agoHanded out? She built it.
- dyauspitr 2y agoNo she didn’t and that’s what I mean.
- Joker_vD 2y agoSelf-appointment? Nobody stops you from founding your own company and becoming a CEO of it.
- YetAnotherNick 2y agoBut she isn't the founder.
- igetspam 2y agoYou seem under qualified to make this assertion. On what basis do you think you can make this claim?
- freehorse 2y agoConsidering that she was not hired _just now_, it would be more reasonable if she is criticised on the basis of what she has done there last 3+ years rather than based on vague qualification-based arguments. Though I am also curious as what you think would make good enough qualifications for such a position, because I do not think that very traditional CEO qualifications would work that well here.
- vishalontheline 2y agoYou don't need qualifications to become the CEO of a brand new company, which is what BlueSky basically was when she got the job. It doesn't matter how she got it at that early stage. Seeing that company grow, and remaining CEO through that transition (and beyond) on the other hand isn't for everyone. I'm not a user or a customer, but from all the publicity and excitement, it looks like she's doing a pretty good job so far.
- uknowwhythrow 2y ago[flagged]
- matthewdgreen 2y agoJay was involved in the early days of Zcash, which makes me much more confident that BlueSky will be a place that cares about user privacy.
- Culonavirus 2y agoBeing banned is some of the best user privacy around. Can't beat that.
- ASalazarMX 2y agoYou'll always have X, Mr. Culonavirus.
- Fidelix 2y ago[flagged]
- sumeno 2y agoAnd what did you do to get banned? Be specific
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- urbanredeemer 2y ago[flagged]
- concerndc1tizen 2y agoNot true. Counter-mainstream arguments are immediately flagged (often within a minute), likely by third-party bots detecting undesirable comments.
- urbanredeemer 2y ago
- Joker_vD 2y agoRefreshingly, not a 90-page long self-indulgent monologue from the person themself, explaining in the minute details their philosophical, moral, and sociological stances on every thing they care to think about, which you'd expect from e.g. Elon Musk, the CEO of that other social network site with no usable name.
- waveBidder 2y agoex-twitter?
- louwrentius 2y agoI felt she became CEO of Bluesky out of nowhere, but that's not true. She seems to be heavilly involved in the space with her app "Happening" and that got her a seat at the table with Jack Dorsey and landed her in her current role. So the way that this worked is that Jack tweeted that, and they created a Bluesky Twitter account at the end of 2019. I got really excited. I was currently working on a social app of my own that was an alternative to Facebook Events called Happening, and I’d been building on decentralized social protocols, playing around with them, doing a lot of research, published a lot of research on it.
- likeabatterycar 2y agoWas she grinding code on the clone app, or simply telling other folks what to build? To quantify experience, it requires accompanying detail.
- crowcroft 2y agoWhat would the distinction between the two mean to you?
- ilrwbwrkhv 2y agoAs much as I like Musk, Twitter has become horrible. I created a new account for work and without following anybody, my feed was filled with some of the most horrible racist shit against black people I have ever seen. Now I don't mind that stuff in forums and 4chan (some folks find that content funny) but if I have to do work, it cannot coexist with that content.
- cryptozeus 2y agoWow I have been on twtr dor years, never seen this.
- whimsicalism 2y agoreally? i see stuff like this all the time
- ironhaven 2y agoIt’s no longer twitter it is “x.com”. Much different moderation and user base
- flir 2y agoI logged back in today for the first time in years, and the only real difference for me was in-line ads everywhere (I see you, VW, and I won't forget), and it was quieter. I suspect there's a difference between an already-curated account and a new account.
- waveBidder 2y agoIf you stick to just following, twitter 2 months ago was fine, as long as you also didn't read the comments or click on your notifications (which was inevitable follows by cryptoshills). At this point the people I was following have all left, because they had to put up with way more shit than I did.
- flir 2y agoThat tracks. I was just skimming whatever has replaced the timeline.
- revbrever 2y agowhen can we start placing bets on time to enshitified? it all ends the same. not worth signing up for.
- paulgb 2y agoBluesky reminds me of Twitter around ~2008, and Twitter only really got enshittified to the point that I barely use it this year. So I'm optimistic that we'll get a good decade in at least.
- jauntywundrkind 2y agoAnd we can takeaway our data. Everyone at Bluesky seems quite aligned on building systems with user sovereignty: > one of bluesky’s mottos is “the company is a future adversary,” so we have to design this service in a way that preserves user choice & freedom > users should own their data, identity, and relationships on the social internet, and devs should never get locked out of the ecosystems that they build https://bsky.app/profile/emilyliu.me/post/3jzkm4kezos2d https://bsky.app/profile/emilyliu.me/post/3jzkm4kezos2d For all the shrill man-child cries of 'censorship!', there's protocols underlying already for you to host yourself! People do! Heavens spare us from these X-grade losers.
- madeofpalk 2y agoThe hope is being open and decentralised are counteracting forces to keep bluesky in check if they attempt to pull the rug. We're yet to see how this turns out in practice. I do fear that the ATProto model means that Bluesky is still a pretty central component in the ecosystem. Mastodon, in comparison, seems to be more resiliant to one 'instance' screwing things up. If Bluesky shut down all their servers tomorrow with no notice, what will happen to the network? If Mastodon shut down their servers (mastodon.social), users on that instance would be screwed, but me and many of the people I follow aren't on there so we would be fine.
- webdoodle 2y agoFrom some of the comments here, it sounds like BlueSky started with healthy dose of enshitification: censorship and suspensions.
- alex1138 2y agoIncidentally, there's an article on Medium about Graber's experience listening to some internet old-timers https://medium.com/decentralized-web/the-internets-old-guard-c10b0ff0fb8d https://medium.com/decentralized-web/the-internets-old-guard... Someone else who's interesting is CEO of Signal https://www.wired.com/story/meredith-whittaker-signal/ https://www.wired.com/story/meredith-whittaker-signal/
- bix6 2y agohttps://archive.ph/AhQIz https://archive.ph/AhQIz
- qingcharles 2y agoSadly Archive can't pull the entire article. Anyone have a link for the full thing?
- pavlov 2y agoThis HN comment section with showdead enabled reveals that Ms Graber attracts trolls and misogynists like moths to a flame. Sometimes I think that the efficient moderation on HN hides the extent of the problem in this community. When Trump won the election, the HN ‘new’ page was briefly filled with posts saying things like “Eat shit n**s and f*gs!!!” But since the efficient moderation quickly hides all this for users who don’t go out of their way to enable viewing dead posts and comments, we can blissfully go on discussing the finer points of tariffs and whatever, ignoring the fact that a growing number of people around really just want to see minority scapegoats suffer. It feels a bit like frogs in a boiling kettle.
- cess11 2y agoBlockchainers trying to make money from people that don't want to see nazis and photos from wars and genocide. I have a hard time imagining how they'll manage to do it. As far as I can tell the profitable blockchains are pretty tightly coupled to either financial speculation or more obvious crime. I'm not so sure it will work in this domain.
- kyledrake 2y agoI know Jay IRL and can attest to her being a very good person, and I have strong faith in her ability to be a competent leader for Bluesky and to deliver on the project's potential. Just an anecdote but I wanted to contribute it. A big reason I ended my Twitter involvement and switched to Bluesky is simply because I expect them to succeed and replace it, indifferent of the ideological alignment of either platform.
- bradgessler 2y agoWhat’s your take on where Bsky will take “safety”? I’ve seen right-leaning satire sites get flagged as “Intolerance”, which is fueling a fire that Bsky will cater to a left-leaning audience.
- downWidOutaFite 2y agoIf you want to be catered to as a right-leaner you can just stay on X.
- Zak 2y agoOne of my favorite design decisions in Bluesky is that you can set any label from any labeler to off, warn, or hide, including @moderation.bsky.app. If you think that labeler applies the "Intolerance" label incorrectly, just turn it off.
- bradgessler 2y agoYeah, I like that too. Technically there’s a lot of really great design decisions that were made, but I’ve seen people take screenshots of the app and crying “censorship!” not understanding it’s a setting that can be changed or that a different client could be implemented against aproto. I don’t think they’re wrong either based on past precedent and their mental model of how most social networks work. I’d propose that Bsky instead asks the user if they want to view the content or block it, allowing them to change the setting right then and there (and not have to dig), instead of outright saying “Intolerant” and making them jump through hoops every time they want to view it.
- sourcepluck 2y agoThis piece by Christine Lemmer-Webber mentions Christine's very positive experiences working with Jay Graber. I consider CLW to be a reliable and trustworthy source of information, so I think it's relevant here. (Also it's really a very, very good analysis of Bluesky, by the co-author of ActivityPub, so if you're into that kind of thing...) https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/ https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/
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- insane_dreamer 2y agoOne thing I like about Bluesky is that until this post I had no idea who the CEO is, as opposed to every other social network where it's some billionaire (besides Signal but that's a communications network not a social network).
- norwalkbear 2y agoBluesky seems like another echo chamber. Does Twitter actually ban or suppress speech on the left or right these days?
- likeabatterycar 2y agoFrom my limited research, most new Bluesky users are ecstatic they have regained the ability to gang-report and tattle on people they don't like again.
- verdverm 2y agoIt's more about not having to endure trolls. They can be added to list and then users can decide if they want to subscribe to these lists. We don't have to do it individually and that's a powerful tool to keep the network more respectul
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- verdverm 2y agowhy do you insist on trolling here? There is far more apolitical content on Bluesky than political content and the list ratio is similar. Lists are both positive (people to follow) and negative (people to ignore), which is technically custom labellers where subscribing users can choose if they warn, mute, or block for themselves Here is a directory of the starter lists so you can get a feel for the mixture: https://blueskydirectory.com/starter-packs/all https://blueskydirectory.com/starter-packs/all The general vibe is to ignore & block rather than to engage with trolls. Dunking with reposts is also frowned upon. Having a fresh start means a new set of norms can be established. It really is a refreshing experience from the other options out there (not just Twitter) "What pushed me off X was just watching good people behave badly" ~ Kelsey Hightower (https://www.siliconrepublic.com/enterprise/kelsey-hightower-bluesky-ap-protocol-open-source-kubernetes https://www.siliconrepublic.com/enterprise/kelsey-hightower-...)
- histories 2y ago>And her given first name [...] is Lantian, meaning blue sky in Mandarin I love this
- GaryNumanVevo 2y agoApparently Jack Dorsey had already come up with then name Bluesky before Jay joined as CEO. Some perfect nominative determinisim!