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The Bluesky Bubble: This is a relapse, not a fix

49 points by davidbarker 2y ago

rsynnott 2y ago
> Gen Xers and Oldlennials As an oldlennial, I am not sure I care for this term.
- renewedrebecca 2y ago
  As a GenXer, I think it's hilarious.
thewanderingben 2y ago
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Sytten 2y ago
Anecdotal but for my startup (caido.io) I have seen an uptick of follows this week on bluesky. I had abandoned hope a few months ago, but I will restart posting our company updates on it.
mountainriver 2y ago
Strange article, social media isn’t going anywhere, it’s just evolving. The decline of X is due to Elon, that’s all.
- mvelbaum 2y ago
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    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      "Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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  - calgarymicro 2y ago
    X's mandatory self-reported figures in the EU show they lost about 6 million monthly active users in the first half of 2024. There doesn't seem to be similar data for the US and UK, but other metrics, like Similarweb, show declines in those places as well.[0] [0]https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/x-formerly-twitter-losing-users-in-the-us-and-uk/727842/ https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/x-formerly-twitter-los...
  - childintime 2y ago
    I just proved your point down below. You don't like voting, do you? Also, it's advertisers that stay away, and it's X challenging them in court over it. The world is getting weirder by the day. Do you have an uncle that can't stop ranting and calling people names? People just leave his presence. That behavior is just the worst and we're not born to suffer it, passively. That's the whole point of the free speech fallacy. Now the shouters are in power, so they can pour their trauma down our throats, as if this were some therapy. No, it's just abuse and it's perverse. That's why people leave X. They have a target on their back.
    - bubaumba 2y ago
      > Also, it's advertisers that stay away, They are coming back and line up
    - mvelbaum 2y ago
      You literally have a "Following" tab where you can have a timeline for only people you care about. You also have both a mute & a block button. Any platform focused on news & politics will have people fighting & insulting each other, learn to deal with it. Advertisers have left as part of a concerted pressure campaign to bring back censorship. This effort has been coordinated by NGOs that ironically receive funding by the US Gov't as part of their mis/dis/malinformation playbook in order to keep in check populist political movements that may undermine the State Department's interests. As soon as Elon sued GARM, it broke apart, and I bet the Trump admin will target NewsGuard and kill it as well.
      - bcdtttt 2y ago
        You've been duped. Your information environment sounds very narrow, and you may be over valuing information from people who are politically similar (I believe some people call this an "echo chamber", but I'm not fond of that term.) Strongly recommend you take steps to interrogate your inputs more critically. Or at least change the way you present, because you come across as quite dogmatic and zealous, like a flat earther.
  - blactuary 2y ago
    Before Elon bought Twitter, if someone called me the n word and I reported it, they took action. After Elon bought Twitter, they tell me no rules were broken. So this is absolute nonsense
  - mcphage 2y ago
    X usage may be at an all time high, but it’s mostly “Pussy In Bio” bots.
  - brookst 2y ago
    X is the 15th largest social network by MAU[1], and falling. And there is some irony in your praise for tolerance. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_platforms_with_at_least_100_million_active_users https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_platforms_with_...
    - mvelbaum 2y ago
      I may disagree with people politically, but I would never ask to ban them. Heck, I don't even report people who hurl racist insults at me, I just counter-attack, just like I would in real life.
      - brookst 2y ago
        That pretty much sums up X: people hurling insults at each other while Dear Leader exhorts them to support conservatives in unblockable posts. I get it can be satisfying, but I just walked away from the toxicity, as I would in real life.
asah 2y ago
-1 to the conclusion. Counterexamples include LinkedIn, HN and various subreddits (not all) - they're operating at large scale, very lively but low levels of nasty (as a percentage).
- AliAbdoli 2y ago
  LinkedIn has a lot of garbage
  - disqard 2y ago
    You're right! IME, LinkedIn suffers from a different problem: on there, "everything is awesome", and the toxic positivity embedded in its DNA always snuffs out any authentic rancor. So yes, it's free of bad behavior -- but it's also free of "normal" conversations. It's just full of "thought leaders", "visionaries", and "visionary thought leaders".
tqi 2y ago
> I have written before in The Atlantic about a problem that I see as superordinate to all of these others: People just aren’t meant to talk with one another this much The irony of publishing an article intended for a mass audience about how people shouldn't talk to each other. Obviously journalists are the only ones who can be trusted with such power...
- makk 2y ago
  publishing != talking
  - thrill 2y ago
    publishing == talking down to
    - makk 2y ago
      Choose different publications.
  - ang_cire 2y ago
    If your point is that it's written word, then neither is social media talking. Both of them are people putting/ publishing text out to a mass audience, in a public way.
- aSanchezStern 2y ago
  Err, turning "shouldn't be talking to each other this much" to "shouldn't be talking to each other" is quite the leap. The author is clearly referring to the minute-by-minute stimulation that a microblogging platform provides, not making the case that people should be cutting off all communication with each other.
marban 2y ago
Unless Bluesky or Threads tap into the Zeitgeist, Twitter isn't going anywhere. As much as whatever political side would love to see it falter, those invested in its downfall might have to temper their expectations. Twitter is a mirror of the human fabric — messy, contradictory, brutal. For all its flaws, it's the only service that reflects society's pulse in real-time.
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- ulfw 2y ago
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- tuveson 2y ago
  I think the real problem on Twitter is the massive amount of spam that now exists. It's much worse than it was a couple of years ago. If all it consists of is bots and hucksters that pay to appear at the top of viral posts, it will cease to be a useful "pulse". That being said, this might just be the end of there being a single, central Twitter-like platform. There are already right-wing clones like Gab and Truth Social, it could be that more and more niche platforms pop up.
  - kyriakos 2y ago
    90% of the suggested posts are clickbaity threads people post for engagement. Its become very hard to navigate to real content.
  - _ea1k 2y ago
    I think it just comes in waves. Years ago, I'd see links to Twitter and replies full of crypto scammer. It has been a while since I've seen that problem to that degree, though there was a smaller wave of them a few months ago. Meanwhile, my YouTube feed regularly gets attacked with AI generated crypto ads using the Tesla or SpaceX brands.
add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
The Twitter replacement for me isn't Bluesky, it's a combination of Bluesky and being less online. I won't get attached to Bluesky. If it significantly degrades like Twitter I'll move on from it pretty easily. I've already started to get mildly turned off by Bluesky since it began interrupting profiles and feeds with "suggestion" blocks. The engagement hacking has started.
- slopeloaf 2y ago
  Elon buying Twitter and ruining the platform with spam, lower quality posts being promoted, and many of my favorite creators leaving. It cured my Twitter addiction. So I appreciate Elon for that. Back when I was younger and addicted to Reddit I remember unfollowing all my subreddits and hacking together a little script that hid the follow button. That friction made Reddit a lot less desirable. I’ll no doubt eventually try out Bluesky, but I don’t think it could ever capture Twitter’s magic pre-Elon.
McBainiel 2y ago
Has a clone of a social media site ever replaced an original? The closest I can think of is Tiktok being kinda similar to Vine but that feels like a stretch. I don't think Bluesky will succeed unless it offers something different to the basic Twitter experience. It's hard to picture enough people giving up Twitter (or using both) for it to reach the critical mass required to sustain it.
- deskr 2y ago
  Have fascists ever taken over America before? We live in unprecedented times.
- ldjb 2y ago
  I feel like Facebook was often considered a MySpace clone in its early days, despite certain differences, and I certainly think it took its place.
- hattmall 2y ago
  I can't really understand why people use Twitter at all, since it's inception. It's never felt like a compelling platform and everyone I know has an account, like myself, but made it years ago for some reason and never used it.
  - thinkingemote 2y ago
    a tweet originally was called a "status", twitter used to be a place where you would publish your instant messenger status. Early adopters used it to unify their multiple messenger platforms statuses into one. If you changed your status on the old messengers e.g. "making a cup of tea" then it had some utility at any rate, a status was a kind of temporary notice, to be replaced by another status at another time. In an IM application you would see your online and offline contacts and see their status underneath their name. People had a few different unconnected IM applications. You could use the API to set your status in twitter and it would be set in AIM (or was it both ways?) You could SMS in a status/tweet from a phone, many people loved that. After that it became a way to record or broadcast other temporary notices, and then to a kind of realtime status. The concepts of a conversation happened then, talking about a topic but without direct refering other people and then with mentions @handle threads on twitter happened afterwards. The twitter tech folks were considering making the metadata around a tweet as more important than the inside content. (e.g. RDF, foaf, geo, links, wikipedia uuids, subject topics, etc etc) And then the masses joined in a few years after with Oprah and it was all about the message. After that the push to VC eternal growth and the algorithm powered feed was what encouraged bad behaviour and a range of un-satisfactory responses to that behaviour which continues to this day.
dingnuts 2y ago
isn't it obvious to everyone that the X/Twitter exodus is just a forum split? haven't all of us of a certain age participated in a forum that eventually devolved into drama, and then everyone picks sides, and someone makes a new forum, and half the group leaves? That's all that's happening on X. Now we have a bunch of twitters: X, Bluesky, Truth, Fediverse. They're all twitters and the X exodus is just a twitter split. X will go on, but smaller, and people will share posts between the twitters the way they always have shared posted between social media sites: with screenshots. Nature is healing.
- mcphage 2y ago
  Is it a forum split, or is it Digg->Reddit or MySpace->Facebook?
  - ang_cire 2y ago
    I think that will depend on whether Must decides to keep running it at a loss. He has the resources to keep it going for years as a forum for his groupies, but if anyone else were in charge it would be a die-off for sure.
mcintyre1994 2y ago
I'm not familiar with the other similar sites, but Bluesky seems much more interesting as a product than Twitter/X ever did. I think the way they encourage users to build/share custom feeds, and especially how they can be independent of your follow graph, is really interesting. The problem with these sites has always been having a single algorithmic feed controlled by someone else IMO. Some interesting feeds I've seen are only posts by mutuals, lots of curated feeds that just show a subset of posts by a small number of accounts (whether or not you follow them), a following feed that filters out reposts/replies, a custom open source Discover algorithm based on your likes. This feels way more interesting to me than anything Twitter/X has ever tried to do, even if you really like their single algorithm and the way their following feed works.
- jlengrand 2y ago
  And the starter packs who make it easy and quick to straight up build a follow base of curated content uniquely. That stuff only makes Twitter less relevant in an instant.
- Fishkins 2y ago
  Custom feeds and starter packs seem to be promoted much more on Bluesky than lists were on Twitter, but how different are the actual capabilities from Twitter lists? I never looked at my algorithmic feed. Instead I make a "list" of accounts I followed and pinned that list to my home view. That way I only got exactly their posts in chronological order (with no ads). I saw that recommended by some HN user long ago, but I don't remember who. I have fully switched to Bluesky at this point anyway, but the list approach worked fine for me on Twitter long after most users were complaining about the feed algo.
  - mcintyre1994 2y ago
    I thought Twitter lists could only be used for a list of accounts, so you'd see everything posted by everyone in the list. Whereas Bluesky feeds can only show posts with certain tags/content etc, and can be based on things like your following/likes without you maintaining the list of those. I might be wrong though about the limitations of lists because I never used them much.
mgraybosch 2y ago
Somebody at my day job tried to sell me on Bluesky by saying it was run by a public benefit corporation and thus was less likely to abuse its users. I wasn't persuaded, because I remember ello.co [0] (which shut down in July 2023). It too was run by a public benefit corporation, but it couldn't sustain itself because t-shirt sales and affliate links weren't bringing in enough revenue, and they never got their freemium model off the ground. No great loss, which is what I'll say when Bluesky starts to rot because its operators need to provide ROI to the VCs backing them [1]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ello_(social_network) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ello_(social_network) [1]: https://decrypt.co/288157/bluesky-raises-15-million-no-crypto https://decrypt.co/288157/bluesky-raises-15-million-no-crypt...
1vuio0pswjnm7 2y ago
"Whatever happens, I still hope that social media itself will fade away." "About the Author Ian Bogost is a contributing writer at The Atlantic."
neonate 2y ago
https://archive.ph/Lb88G https://archive.ph/Lb88G

49 points by davidbarker 2y ago

rsynnott 2y ago

> Gen Xers and Oldlennials As an oldlennial, I am not sure I care for this term.

renewedrebecca 2y ago
As a GenXer, I think it's hilarious.

thewanderingben 2y ago

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Sytten 2y ago

Anecdotal but for my startup (caido.io) I have seen an uptick of follows this week on bluesky. I had abandoned hope a few months ago, but I will restart posting our company updates on it.

mountainriver 2y ago

Strange article, social media isn’t going anywhere, it’s just evolving. The decline of X is due to Elon, that’s all.

mvelbaum 2y ago
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  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    "Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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- calgarymicro 2y ago
  X's mandatory self-reported figures in the EU show they lost about 6 million monthly active users in the first half of 2024. There doesn't seem to be similar data for the US and UK, but other metrics, like Similarweb, show declines in those places as well.[0] [0]https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/x-formerly-twitter-losing-users-in-the-us-and-uk/727842/ https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/x-formerly-twitter-los...
- childintime 2y ago
  I just proved your point down below. You don't like voting, do you? Also, it's advertisers that stay away, and it's X challenging them in court over it. The world is getting weirder by the day. Do you have an uncle that can't stop ranting and calling people names? People just leave his presence. That behavior is just the worst and we're not born to suffer it, passively. That's the whole point of the free speech fallacy. Now the shouters are in power, so they can pour their trauma down our throats, as if this were some therapy. No, it's just abuse and it's perverse. That's why people leave X. They have a target on their back.
  - bubaumba 2y ago
    > Also, it's advertisers that stay away, They are coming back and line up
  - mvelbaum 2y ago
    You literally have a "Following" tab where you can have a timeline for only people you care about. You also have both a mute & a block button. Any platform focused on news & politics will have people fighting & insulting each other, learn to deal with it. Advertisers have left as part of a concerted pressure campaign to bring back censorship. This effort has been coordinated by NGOs that ironically receive funding by the US Gov't as part of their mis/dis/malinformation playbook in order to keep in check populist political movements that may undermine the State Department's interests. As soon as Elon sued GARM, it broke apart, and I bet the Trump admin will target NewsGuard and kill it as well.
    - bcdtttt 2y ago
      You've been duped. Your information environment sounds very narrow, and you may be over valuing information from people who are politically similar (I believe some people call this an "echo chamber", but I'm not fond of that term.) Strongly recommend you take steps to interrogate your inputs more critically. Or at least change the way you present, because you come across as quite dogmatic and zealous, like a flat earther.
- blactuary 2y ago
  Before Elon bought Twitter, if someone called me the n word and I reported it, they took action. After Elon bought Twitter, they tell me no rules were broken. So this is absolute nonsense
- mcphage 2y ago
  X usage may be at an all time high, but it’s mostly “Pussy In Bio” bots.
- brookst 2y ago
  X is the 15th largest social network by MAU[1], and falling. And there is some irony in your praise for tolerance. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_platforms_with_at_least_100_million_active_users https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_platforms_with_...
  - mvelbaum 2y ago
    I may disagree with people politically, but I would never ask to ban them. Heck, I don't even report people who hurl racist insults at me, I just counter-attack, just like I would in real life.
    - brookst 2y ago
      That pretty much sums up X: people hurling insults at each other while Dear Leader exhorts them to support conservatives in unblockable posts. I get it can be satisfying, but I just walked away from the toxicity, as I would in real life.

asah 2y ago

-1 to the conclusion. Counterexamples include LinkedIn, HN and various subreddits (not all) - they're operating at large scale, very lively but low levels of nasty (as a percentage).

AliAbdoli 2y ago
LinkedIn has a lot of garbage
- disqard 2y ago
  You're right! IME, LinkedIn suffers from a different problem: on there, "everything is awesome", and the toxic positivity embedded in its DNA always snuffs out any authentic rancor. So yes, it's free of bad behavior -- but it's also free of "normal" conversations. It's just full of "thought leaders", "visionaries", and "visionary thought leaders".

tqi 2y ago

> I have written before in The Atlantic about a problem that I see as superordinate to all of these others: People just aren’t meant to talk with one another this much The irony of publishing an article intended for a mass audience about how people shouldn't talk to each other. Obviously journalists are the only ones who can be trusted with such power...

makk 2y ago
publishing != talking
- thrill 2y ago
  publishing == talking down to
  - makk 2y ago
    Choose different publications.
- ang_cire 2y ago
  If your point is that it's written word, then neither is social media talking. Both of them are people putting/ publishing text out to a mass audience, in a public way.
aSanchezStern 2y ago
Err, turning "shouldn't be talking to each other this much" to "shouldn't be talking to each other" is quite the leap. The author is clearly referring to the minute-by-minute stimulation that a microblogging platform provides, not making the case that people should be cutting off all communication with each other.

marban 2y ago

Unless Bluesky or Threads tap into the Zeitgeist, Twitter isn't going anywhere. As much as whatever political side would love to see it falter, those invested in its downfall might have to temper their expectations. Twitter is a mirror of the human fabric — messy, contradictory, brutal. For all its flaws, it's the only service that reflects society's pulse in real-time.

buttbot 2y ago
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ulfw 2y ago
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- thisisfine1234 2y ago
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tuveson 2y ago
I think the real problem on Twitter is the massive amount of spam that now exists. It's much worse than it was a couple of years ago. If all it consists of is bots and hucksters that pay to appear at the top of viral posts, it will cease to be a useful "pulse". That being said, this might just be the end of there being a single, central Twitter-like platform. There are already right-wing clones like Gab and Truth Social, it could be that more and more niche platforms pop up.
- kyriakos 2y ago
  90% of the suggested posts are clickbaity threads people post for engagement. Its become very hard to navigate to real content.
- _ea1k 2y ago
  I think it just comes in waves. Years ago, I'd see links to Twitter and replies full of crypto scammer. It has been a while since I've seen that problem to that degree, though there was a smaller wave of them a few months ago. Meanwhile, my YouTube feed regularly gets attacked with AI generated crypto ads using the Tesla or SpaceX brands.

add-sub-mul-div 2y ago

The Twitter replacement for me isn't Bluesky, it's a combination of Bluesky and being less online. I won't get attached to Bluesky. If it significantly degrades like Twitter I'll move on from it pretty easily. I've already started to get mildly turned off by Bluesky since it began interrupting profiles and feeds with "suggestion" blocks. The engagement hacking has started.

slopeloaf 2y ago
Elon buying Twitter and ruining the platform with spam, lower quality posts being promoted, and many of my favorite creators leaving. It cured my Twitter addiction. So I appreciate Elon for that. Back when I was younger and addicted to Reddit I remember unfollowing all my subreddits and hacking together a little script that hid the follow button. That friction made Reddit a lot less desirable. I’ll no doubt eventually try out Bluesky, but I don’t think it could ever capture Twitter’s magic pre-Elon.

McBainiel 2y ago

Has a clone of a social media site ever replaced an original? The closest I can think of is Tiktok being kinda similar to Vine but that feels like a stretch. I don't think Bluesky will succeed unless it offers something different to the basic Twitter experience. It's hard to picture enough people giving up Twitter (or using both) for it to reach the critical mass required to sustain it.

deskr 2y ago
Have fascists ever taken over America before? We live in unprecedented times.
ldjb 2y ago
I feel like Facebook was often considered a MySpace clone in its early days, despite certain differences, and I certainly think it took its place.
hattmall 2y ago
I can't really understand why people use Twitter at all, since it's inception. It's never felt like a compelling platform and everyone I know has an account, like myself, but made it years ago for some reason and never used it.
- thinkingemote 2y ago
  a tweet originally was called a "status", twitter used to be a place where you would publish your instant messenger status. Early adopters used it to unify their multiple messenger platforms statuses into one. If you changed your status on the old messengers e.g. "making a cup of tea" then it had some utility at any rate, a status was a kind of temporary notice, to be replaced by another status at another time. In an IM application you would see your online and offline contacts and see their status underneath their name. People had a few different unconnected IM applications. You could use the API to set your status in twitter and it would be set in AIM (or was it both ways?) You could SMS in a status/tweet from a phone, many people loved that. After that it became a way to record or broadcast other temporary notices, and then to a kind of realtime status. The concepts of a conversation happened then, talking about a topic but without direct refering other people and then with mentions @handle threads on twitter happened afterwards. The twitter tech folks were considering making the metadata around a tweet as more important than the inside content. (e.g. RDF, foaf, geo, links, wikipedia uuids, subject topics, etc etc) And then the masses joined in a few years after with Oprah and it was all about the message. After that the push to VC eternal growth and the algorithm powered feed was what encouraged bad behaviour and a range of un-satisfactory responses to that behaviour which continues to this day.

dingnuts 2y ago

isn't it obvious to everyone that the X/Twitter exodus is just a forum split? haven't all of us of a certain age participated in a forum that eventually devolved into drama, and then everyone picks sides, and someone makes a new forum, and half the group leaves? That's all that's happening on X. Now we have a bunch of twitters: X, Bluesky, Truth, Fediverse. They're all twitters and the X exodus is just a twitter split. X will go on, but smaller, and people will share posts between the twitters the way they always have shared posted between social media sites: with screenshots. Nature is healing.

mcphage 2y ago
Is it a forum split, or is it Digg->Reddit or MySpace->Facebook?
- ang_cire 2y ago
  I think that will depend on whether Must decides to keep running it at a loss. He has the resources to keep it going for years as a forum for his groupies, but if anyone else were in charge it would be a die-off for sure.

mcintyre1994 2y ago

I'm not familiar with the other similar sites, but Bluesky seems much more interesting as a product than Twitter/X ever did. I think the way they encourage users to build/share custom feeds, and especially how they can be independent of your follow graph, is really interesting. The problem with these sites has always been having a single algorithmic feed controlled by someone else IMO. Some interesting feeds I've seen are only posts by mutuals, lots of curated feeds that just show a subset of posts by a small number of accounts (whether or not you follow them), a following feed that filters out reposts/replies, a custom open source Discover algorithm based on your likes. This feels way more interesting to me than anything Twitter/X has ever tried to do, even if you really like their single algorithm and the way their following feed works.

jlengrand 2y ago
And the starter packs who make it easy and quick to straight up build a follow base of curated content uniquely. That stuff only makes Twitter less relevant in an instant.
Fishkins 2y ago
Custom feeds and starter packs seem to be promoted much more on Bluesky than lists were on Twitter, but how different are the actual capabilities from Twitter lists? I never looked at my algorithmic feed. Instead I make a "list" of accounts I followed and pinned that list to my home view. That way I only got exactly their posts in chronological order (with no ads). I saw that recommended by some HN user long ago, but I don't remember who. I have fully switched to Bluesky at this point anyway, but the list approach worked fine for me on Twitter long after most users were complaining about the feed algo.
- mcintyre1994 2y ago
  I thought Twitter lists could only be used for a list of accounts, so you'd see everything posted by everyone in the list. Whereas Bluesky feeds can only show posts with certain tags/content etc, and can be based on things like your following/likes without you maintaining the list of those. I might be wrong though about the limitations of lists because I never used them much.

mgraybosch 2y ago

Somebody at my day job tried to sell me on Bluesky by saying it was run by a public benefit corporation and thus was less likely to abuse its users. I wasn't persuaded, because I remember ello.co [0] (which shut down in July 2023). It too was run by a public benefit corporation, but it couldn't sustain itself because t-shirt sales and affliate links weren't bringing in enough revenue, and they never got their freemium model off the ground. No great loss, which is what I'll say when Bluesky starts to rot because its operators need to provide ROI to the VCs backing them [1]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ello_(social_network) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ello_(social_network) [1]: https://decrypt.co/288157/bluesky-raises-15-million-no-crypto https://decrypt.co/288157/bluesky-raises-15-million-no-crypt...

1vuio0pswjnm7 2y ago

"Whatever happens, I still hope that social media itself will fade away." "About the Author Ian Bogost is a contributing writer at The Atlantic."

neonate 2y ago

https://archive.ph/Lb88G https://archive.ph/Lb88G