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Apple drops soldered storage for 2024 Mac Mini

37 points by lisper 2y ago

trinsic2 2y ago
How does ifixit justify a 7 out of 10 score? Is the Framework laptop on that same scale? Cause the only difference to repair-ability from the last model seems like the removable SSD, which is proprietary and the make it very difficult to replicate because all the firmware related functions are on the removable SSD.
- wtallis 2y ago
  By "replicate" do you mean creating a compatible third-party replacement hardware module, or copying all the data onto a different card? Cloning an SSD's data is something we should stop expecting to be straightforward in a world with self-encrypting drives. Restoring from backup is the right approach.
  - ycombinatrix 2y ago
    Why shouldn't I be able to clone an SSD? lol
  - hollerith 2y ago
    >Cloning an SSD's data is something we should stop expecting to be straightforward in a world with self-encrypting drives. Restoring from backup is the right approach. I don't know why you're being downvoted: didn't we stop being able to clone a drive with Windows on it about 20 years ago unless perhaps Windows was installed in a non-standard way? More precisely you can clone a drive with Windows on it of course, but you will not be unable to boot the clone.
- linotype 2y ago
  CMOS battery is also very easily replaceable.
gs17 2y ago
If it's not compatible with just any SSD (of the right form factor) it's only a small step. Still surprised to see it, but they really have a long way to go.
synchrone 2y ago
Some people are already selling compatible SSD modules: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/polysoftservices/studio-drive https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/polysoftservices/studio... Hopefully the French law would protect them from a lawsuit
- fragmede 2y ago
  To be clear, these aren't compatible with the M4 Mac Mini, though compatible modules for those are expected to come out shortly.
  - solarkraft 2y ago
    Is this confirmed? What‘s the difference?
ChrisArchitect 2y ago
[dupe] More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42086615 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42086615
phendrenad2 2y ago
My guess is the soldered memory was costing them a lot of money in repair times.

37 points by lisper 2y ago

How does ifixit justify a 7 out of 10 score? Is the Framework laptop on that same scale? Cause the only difference to repair-ability from the last model seems like the removable SSD, which is proprietary and the make it very difficult to replicate because all the firmware related functions are on the removable SSD.

wtallis 2y ago
By "replicate" do you mean creating a compatible third-party replacement hardware module, or copying all the data onto a different card? Cloning an SSD's data is something we should stop expecting to be straightforward in a world with self-encrypting drives. Restoring from backup is the right approach.
- ycombinatrix 2y ago
  Why shouldn't I be able to clone an SSD? lol
- hollerith 2y ago
  >Cloning an SSD's data is something we should stop expecting to be straightforward in a world with self-encrypting drives. Restoring from backup is the right approach. I don't know why you're being downvoted: didn't we stop being able to clone a drive with Windows on it about 20 years ago unless perhaps Windows was installed in a non-standard way? More precisely you can clone a drive with Windows on it of course, but you will not be unable to boot the clone.
linotype 2y ago
CMOS battery is also very easily replaceable.

gs17 2y ago

If it's not compatible with just any SSD (of the right form factor) it's only a small step. Still surprised to see it, but they really have a long way to go.

synchrone 2y ago

Some people are already selling compatible SSD modules: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/polysoftservices/studio-drive https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/polysoftservices/studio... Hopefully the French law would protect them from a lawsuit

fragmede 2y ago
To be clear, these aren't compatible with the M4 Mac Mini, though compatible modules for those are expected to come out shortly.
- solarkraft 2y ago
  Is this confirmed? What‘s the difference?

ChrisArchitect 2y ago

[dupe] More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42086615 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42086615

phendrenad2 2y ago

My guess is the soldered memory was costing them a lot of money in repair times.