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Sentry just gave $750k to open source projects

137 points by kmelve 2y ago

kmelve 2y ago
I had the great pleasure of processing Sanity's donations to open source projects too. Hope other companies follow suit!
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BSDobelix 2y ago
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- throawayonthe 2y ago
  oh no! an organization uplifting marginalized communities!!!1! we are being oppressed now!!
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  - BSDobelix 2y ago
    >marginalized communities Like the CEO's of Google, IBM and Microsoft?
    - unmole 2y ago
      > CEO's of Google, IBM and Microsoft Are Indian Americans, not American Indians. The are not part of the demographic Outreachy caters to.
      - BSDobelix 2y ago
        Don't you see how racist those programs are?
hoten 2y ago
Sentry is great. I help develop an open source game engine and they have given us a free team license for their product since it is open source. They've been invaluable for fighting crashes and regressions.
simonhamp 2y ago
Love to see it. Glad to see PHP getting more support here
no_wizard 2y ago
They gave the most to the python community at 46500. They must have the most inroads there, I imagine.
- the_mitsuhiko 2y ago
  What do you mean by "most inroads"?
  - no_wizard 2y ago
    Adoption and/or dependency
    - the_mitsuhiko 2y ago
      Django is the community we are historically very attached to because that's what sentry is written in. The numbers in what we give to open source do not correlate with our business interests or strategies. Python is not the largest sentry consumer base :) That is also why Rust and rrweb are overrepresented.
- pretext-1 2y ago
  Sentry is written in Python and uses Django.
  - Pedro_Ribeiro 2y ago
    What are the advantages of using Django over FastAPI in 2024?
    - larrik 2y ago
      What's the advantages of using FastAPI over Django Ninja? But to answer your question more realistically: * Familiarity * Easy/built-in admin * Longevity I would also never consider switching an existing app from one to the other.
    - sunbum 2y ago
vanschelven 2y ago
This is a great initiative, but one wonders to which degree this is mostly a marketing stunt, white-washing their own "fair source" efforts. Sentry is a multi-billion company, and Open Source pays exactly none of their bills (though it may serve other purposes). This leads to pages such as [1] where they actively steer users away from self-hosting their "open source" (in name only) solution. Much has been said about Sentry's switch to "Fair Source"[2], but for me personally, the ship of "open source in name only" sailed long before that with the ever-increasing complexity of managing your own setup.[3] It’s clear that the priority here has shifted to pushing users toward their hosted, paid plans. Business models beat licenses every time if you want to understand actual intentions. Disclaimer: I am the solo-everything at a competitor, which is in fact _not_ Open Source.[4] [1] https://sentry.io/resources/self-hosted-vs-cloud/ https://sentry.io/resources/self-hosted-vs-cloud/ (click on pdf for scary pictures) [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41171665 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41171665 [3] https://github.com/getsentry/sentry/ https://github.com/getsentry/sentry/ commit/78bc759d1be4fa6b8ae3e2764e7156e05eb22ab9 [4] https://www.bugsink.com/ https://www.bugsink.com/
- ffsm8 2y ago
  Sentry has been donating significantly for years now. It's definitely marketing, otherwise they wouldn't be publishing the blog article - but what you're insinuating doesnt hold up considering the timeline
- knowald 2y ago
  By this logic, should companies never donate to open source because any contribution could be labeled as marketing? The $750K will have real, tangible benefits for open source projects regardless of Sentry's motivations. It's a net positive. And we all know how many profitable companies built on open source give nothing back at all. The point about "open source in name only" due to hosting complexity overlooks that this is a natural consequence of the product's evolution, not malicious intent. Enterprise-grade scaling of such monitoring requires sophisticated infrastructure. Suggesting they should artificially keep it simple for self-hosters would hold back product development.
  - 2y ago

137 points by kmelve 2y ago

I had the great pleasure of processing Sanity's donations to open source projects too. Hope other companies follow suit!

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BSDobelix 2y ago

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throawayonthe 2y ago
oh no! an organization uplifting marginalized communities!!!1! we are being oppressed now!!
- deleted 2y ago
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- BSDobelix 2y ago
  >marginalized communities Like the CEO's of Google, IBM and Microsoft?
  - unmole 2y ago
    > CEO's of Google, IBM and Microsoft Are Indian Americans, not American Indians. The are not part of the demographic Outreachy caters to.
    - BSDobelix 2y ago
      Don't you see how racist those programs are?

hoten 2y ago

Sentry is great. I help develop an open source game engine and they have given us a free team license for their product since it is open source. They've been invaluable for fighting crashes and regressions.

simonhamp 2y ago

Love to see it. Glad to see PHP getting more support here

no_wizard 2y ago

They gave the most to the python community at 46500. They must have the most inroads there, I imagine.

the_mitsuhiko 2y ago
What do you mean by "most inroads"?
- no_wizard 2y ago
  Adoption and/or dependency
  - the_mitsuhiko 2y ago
    Django is the community we are historically very attached to because that's what sentry is written in. The numbers in what we give to open source do not correlate with our business interests or strategies. Python is not the largest sentry consumer base :) That is also why Rust and rrweb are overrepresented.
pretext-1 2y ago
Sentry is written in Python and uses Django.
- Pedro_Ribeiro 2y ago
  What are the advantages of using Django over FastAPI in 2024?
  - larrik 2y ago
    What's the advantages of using FastAPI over Django Ninja? But to answer your question more realistically: * Familiarity * Easy/built-in admin * Longevity I would also never consider switching an existing app from one to the other.
  - sunbum 2y ago

vanschelven 2y ago

This is a great initiative, but one wonders to which degree this is mostly a marketing stunt, white-washing their own "fair source" efforts. Sentry is a multi-billion company, and Open Source pays exactly none of their bills (though it may serve other purposes). This leads to pages such as [1] where they actively steer users away from self-hosting their "open source" (in name only) solution. Much has been said about Sentry's switch to "Fair Source"[2], but for me personally, the ship of "open source in name only" sailed long before that with the ever-increasing complexity of managing your own setup.[3] It’s clear that the priority here has shifted to pushing users toward their hosted, paid plans. Business models beat licenses every time if you want to understand actual intentions. Disclaimer: I am the solo-everything at a competitor, which is in fact _not_ Open Source.[4] [1] https://sentry.io/resources/self-hosted-vs-cloud/ https://sentry.io/resources/self-hosted-vs-cloud/ (click on pdf for scary pictures) [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41171665 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41171665 [3] https://github.com/getsentry/sentry/ https://github.com/getsentry/sentry/ commit/78bc759d1be4fa6b8ae3e2764e7156e05eb22ab9 [4] https://www.bugsink.com/ https://www.bugsink.com/

ffsm8 2y ago
Sentry has been donating significantly for years now. It's definitely marketing, otherwise they wouldn't be publishing the blog article - but what you're insinuating doesnt hold up considering the timeline
knowald 2y ago
By this logic, should companies never donate to open source because any contribution could be labeled as marketing? The $750K will have real, tangible benefits for open source projects regardless of Sentry's motivations. It's a net positive. And we all know how many profitable companies built on open source give nothing back at all. The point about "open source in name only" due to hosting complexity overlooks that this is a natural consequence of the product's evolution, not malicious intent. Enterprise-grade scaling of such monitoring requires sophisticated infrastructure. Suggesting they should artificially keep it simple for self-hosters would hold back product development.
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