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JAWS is a well-known screen reader for blind people with a more then 30 years history.

refulgentis 2y ago
Even worse, JAWS is a well-known movie with a 49 year history. I strongly believe the screen reader and the WASM compiler both knew this at the time, quite damning.
- drogus 2y ago
  I am painfully aware the project will never be the first hit in Google by just typing it's name lol Btw, I am very bad at naming, I chose the name cause it has most of the letters that "JS-WASM" has (or all of them if you consider W is just inverted M)
  - refulgentis 2y ago
    Don't even think about it :) I'm just teasing the person I'm replying to, its a way of saying "yeah I don't think that name collision is significant" that A) assumes they desire conversation, so it's okay to reply B) engages without asserting C) expresses disagreement in a jovial matter, rather than confrontational
  - benmccann 2y ago
    JAWSM might be a more unique alternative if you're looking for any. Anyway, it's a cool project. Thanks for sharing!
  - chamomeal 2y ago
    I love the name!
- Aldipower 2y ago
  Apples and peaches. Jaws the movie is another section, the movie section. Jaws and JAWS are both in the software section. There's the potential for conflicted naming. Sorry to be emotionless here, but at least you could respect the fact that there is a popular software with the same name, without making jokes about it.
  - refulgentis 2y ago
    There is no "software section" anymore, alas :( RIP Computer City. FWIW, for the audience, both you and I know the game here is "can we define a broad enough, yet narrow enough, category that someone could confuse the screenreader with the WASM compiler, such that it can be claimed to be 'emotionless' to say there's a significant collision and the WASM compiler needs a rename." First, there's certainly room for conversation, emotionless doesn't mean provably unambiguously correct and everyone else needs to agree and not reply. :) Second, it's clear you do have emotions, ex. see how you're policing whether its okay to "joke", where "joke" is me going to great lengths to indirectly indicate the possibility this is less than 100% unambiguously correct in as non-personal a way as possible. I did that because the initial curt, policing, tone indicated strongly that you would react poorly to any indication this was anything other than unambiguous. And here we are.
  - fastball 2y ago
    Is this[1] not software? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaws_(video_game) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaws_(video_game)
  - farseer 2y ago
    You can imagine why naming a software "Mission Control" in dev ops is so infuriating for people who actually work in actual space or satellite mission control.
- yencabulator 2y ago
  We're gonna need a bigger namespace.
drogus 2y ago
I know about Jaws as a screen reader, but I don't think it is much of a conflict. WebAssembly is a niche within a niche (like a tool in a WebAssembly ecosystem within a programming ecosystem), so it will probably never grow to a popularity where it's higher in search results making life of people using screen readers worse. But even now, when you enter Jaws into google now, the whole first page is about Jaws, the movie. So if anyone wants to find either of the projects by name they have to specify it more anyway, just like you often have to do with other projects (for example I always search for "phoenix elixir" instead of just Phoenix). My take is that with the amount of tools and programs there is no way to use simple names and not have a conflict here or there.
- ghusbands 2y ago
  Please consider changing the name - it's already hard to find the pages out there talking about how to fix technical issues or use the javascript developer console or such as a jaws user, and your project will end up hiding some of those or at least causing confusion. How about JAWSM (pronounced like awesome), like benmccann suggests?
  - drogus 2y ago
    Coming from an actual JAWS user that has a lot more validity and if you say it will make it harder for people, I will definitely consider changing the name. I actually like Jawsm or JAWSM, so if @benmccann is fine with it, I will probably rename
IshKebab 2y ago
Yes. Well done. This is a different Jaws though.

Even worse, JAWS is a well-known movie with a 49 year history. I strongly believe the screen reader and the WASM compiler both knew this at the time, quite damning.

drogus 2y ago
I am painfully aware the project will never be the first hit in Google by just typing it's name lol Btw, I am very bad at naming, I chose the name cause it has most of the letters that "JS-WASM" has (or all of them if you consider W is just inverted M)
- refulgentis 2y ago
  Don't even think about it :) I'm just teasing the person I'm replying to, its a way of saying "yeah I don't think that name collision is significant" that A) assumes they desire conversation, so it's okay to reply B) engages without asserting C) expresses disagreement in a jovial matter, rather than confrontational
- benmccann 2y ago
  JAWSM might be a more unique alternative if you're looking for any. Anyway, it's a cool project. Thanks for sharing!
- chamomeal 2y ago
  I love the name!
Aldipower 2y ago
Apples and peaches. Jaws the movie is another section, the movie section. Jaws and JAWS are both in the software section. There's the potential for conflicted naming. Sorry to be emotionless here, but at least you could respect the fact that there is a popular software with the same name, without making jokes about it.
- refulgentis 2y ago
  There is no "software section" anymore, alas :( RIP Computer City. FWIW, for the audience, both you and I know the game here is "can we define a broad enough, yet narrow enough, category that someone could confuse the screenreader with the WASM compiler, such that it can be claimed to be 'emotionless' to say there's a significant collision and the WASM compiler needs a rename." First, there's certainly room for conversation, emotionless doesn't mean provably unambiguously correct and everyone else needs to agree and not reply. :) Second, it's clear you do have emotions, ex. see how you're policing whether its okay to "joke", where "joke" is me going to great lengths to indirectly indicate the possibility this is less than 100% unambiguously correct in as non-personal a way as possible. I did that because the initial curt, policing, tone indicated strongly that you would react poorly to any indication this was anything other than unambiguous. And here we are.
- fastball 2y ago
  Is this[1] not software? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaws_(video_game) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaws_(video_game)
- farseer 2y ago
  You can imagine why naming a software "Mission Control" in dev ops is so infuriating for people who actually work in actual space or satellite mission control.
yencabulator 2y ago
We're gonna need a bigger namespace.

drogus 2y ago

I know about Jaws as a screen reader, but I don't think it is much of a conflict. WebAssembly is a niche within a niche (like a tool in a WebAssembly ecosystem within a programming ecosystem), so it will probably never grow to a popularity where it's higher in search results making life of people using screen readers worse. But even now, when you enter Jaws into google now, the whole first page is about Jaws, the movie. So if anyone wants to find either of the projects by name they have to specify it more anyway, just like you often have to do with other projects (for example I always search for "phoenix elixir" instead of just Phoenix). My take is that with the amount of tools and programs there is no way to use simple names and not have a conflict here or there.

ghusbands 2y ago
Please consider changing the name - it's already hard to find the pages out there talking about how to fix technical issues or use the javascript developer console or such as a jaws user, and your project will end up hiding some of those or at least causing confusion. How about JAWSM (pronounced like awesome), like benmccann suggests?
- drogus 2y ago
  Coming from an actual JAWS user that has a lot more validity and if you say it will make it harder for people, I will definitely consider changing the name. I actually like Jawsm or JAWSM, so if @benmccann is fine with it, I will probably rename

IshKebab 2y ago

Yes. Well done. This is a different Jaws though.