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So, they went from not updating in forever, to finally updating it in some meaningful ways a couple years ago, to adding crap that no one wants pretty much righ
by alsetmusic 2y ago
So, they went from not updating in forever, to finally updating it in some meaningful ways a couple years ago, to adding crap that no one wants pretty much right away. Too much, MS. Shoulda quit while you were ahead with tabs.
- malfist 2y agoSoon: with ads!
- bityard 2y agoPrediction: All corporate-backed general-purpose LLMs/AIs will eventually include ads. They won't even always be obvious ads like we have on the web, sometimes they will just be product placement. Ask the AI for an example of a linked list, and it will give you one, but the sample items in the list will be Coca-Cola, Lexus, the name of the closest marijuana dispensary, etc. If anyone wonders why Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and other tech companies who make gobs of money from advertising are so interested in AI, this is why. The ads will appear so "naturally" inside content that it will be impossible for a program (e.g. adblocker) to tell the difference between the content and the ad. There is NO better way to deliver an ad, short of directly injecting thoughts and memories directly into the human brain somehow.
- ed_elliott_asc 2y agoI think there are already product placement laws so we should be warned at least
- condiment 2y agoYou’ll be warned when you accept the terms and conditions. And after the first lawsuits, there will be some fine print on the bottom of the page for you to ignore.
- lotsofpulp 2y agoThey must be completely toothless laws considering the amount of product placement that is easily visible. The only thing that will change is automating product placement in what used to look like organic conversation, including on HN. Now I’ll go drink a nice, cold glass of tap water.
- JohnFen 2y agoIn the US, the laws just say that if you do product placement, you have to disclose you're doing it. If you do that, then there's no restrictions on product placement. I'm also not overly familiar with the scope of the law, so I don't know how much (or if) it applies to software of this sort.
- rcxdude 2y agoIt's not quite that simple, it's if you have a relationship with the seller of the product that the average viewer(tm) would not expect. So, e.g. product placement on daytime TV or quiz shows doesn't require disclosure, because the regulators/courts have decided that's what the average viewer would expect anyway. But anything on social media does require it, it seems. I think produce placement in LLM chatbots would probably qualify as unexpected, though.
- tapoxi 2y agoAI can feel more like a novelty than a truly helpful tool, especially when it comes to getting real work done. When I need a real boost, there’s nothing quite as refreshing as cracking open an ice-cold Coca-Cola. It’s amazing how it instantly lifts my mood and keeps me going!
- svieira 2y agoMokie Coke! Mokie Coke! ---- https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/218596/70s-or-earlier-sci-fi-book-addictive-soft-drinks https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/218596/70s-or-earl... for those not in the know.
- skeeter2020 2y agoFuture notepad grocery list item: * soda pop <--- consider replacing this with Coke Zero, on sale at a Kroger's near you this week
- malfist 2y agoThat is until you apply an AI ad blocker. No reason only the big corps should have it
- worldsayshi 2y agoThey have already onboarded a scrum team on the code base. They've got to burn those points on something to argue for their payroll and the PO and the lead dev thinks AI is cool.
- gklitz 2y agoNeither PO nor lead dev thinks AI is cool, but it’s a priority from top level management so it has to be put in one way or another.
- skeeter2020 2y agoThat AI space is SO frothy right now!
- ChuckNorris89 2y agoHansel?
- ItCouldBeWorse 2y agoMore time spend by users annoyed == more en(g/r)agement == more career credit points. First you go micro, then you go soft.
- theanonymousone 2y agoWhat is lead dev? Is that an official scrum role somewhere?
- worldsayshi 2y agoIt is whatever dev in the team that the team thinks is most senior and/or has the biggest mouth.
- vundercind 2y agoAll it needed was a way to work with other newline formats cleanly. Adding much more than that (even tabs) makes it into a different thing that leaves a gap in the niche it used to fill.
- prmoustache 2y agoWhen I was a windows user 20 years ago I was using scite, the Scintilla demo editor. It had the lightness and simpleness of notepad with syntax highlighting.
- olvy0 2y agoNotepad++ also uses Scintilla.
- jcotton42 2y agoPersonally, I think tabs, spellcheck, universal line ending support was well within the scope of notepad. This AI thing is dumb for it though, should've kept Wordpad for that.
- nuancebydefault 2y agoI believe they finally abandoned that 'pretends to understand doc' wordpad some time ago.
- nuancebydefault 2y agoThat, and finally getting rid of keeping a lock on the file handle of the opened files. Sooo many times I needed explain someone that their directory could not get deleted or their apps failed to uninstall simply because they were still reading its readme.txt
- sahmeepee 2y agoUmm, not sure which version of notepad.exe keeps a lock on open files. None that I've used in the last 25 years.
- userbinator 2y agoI hated the tabs already. When I open Notepad I expect a clean slate.
- mh- 2y agoThat's the real issue. Tabs, fine. Remembering tabs, no.
- taco_emoji 2y agoalways the first thing i disable in Notepad++
- askonomm 2y agoOddly remembers tabs for me just fine.
- matteason 2y agoYou can disable it. Settings > When Notepad starts > Start new session and discard unsaved changes
- DCH3416 2y agoOh good. More things I have to configure out of box.
- ItCouldBeWorse 2y agoOh, great, they added a "Users Resistance is invalid" button - so everyone can go along with it, until they remove it in 2 updates and then, well you had a choice and the choice was to swallow whatever you get served.
- eBombzor 2y agoThey already went too far with the UWP transition. Now the app takes forever to launch, compared to the old version.
- DCH3416 2y agoMy favorite thing is when I open VS2008 or something. And it blinks into existence faster than the splash screen window can render fully. I don't understand how the editor has regressed to the point that 15 year old software performs better than the modern equivalent.
- guestbest 2y agoVs2008 has the old MDI style. It is quiet good
- ndiddy 2y agoAfter Visual Studio 2008, they rewrote the UI in WPF and started writing large components of the program in C#. This dramatically regressed performance, especially on a cold start (it runs decently if you've had the program open for a while). I'd probably still be using Visual Studio 2008, except it limits you to C89 and C++03.
- lenkite 2y agoMaybe they need to rewrite their software stack in Rust now. For performance.
- WorldMaker 2y agoC# is working hard to be Rust-like in certain areas of performance. Part of Visual Studio's problem is that they can't yet take advantage of it in some key areas because they are still dependent on the Legacy Framework and Legacy WPF and have to migrate to modern .NET.
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- skeeter2020 2y agoThe first apps I need to replace on any new windows machine (after installing FF) are Paint, Notepad, Photo/Image viewer and MediaPlayer. The funny thing is their replacements are all ancient as well, and still awesome because they've been thoughtfully upgraded over the years without destroying their conceptual integrity, or they've just been "done" for decades. Paint.Net (v3), Notepad++, IrfanViewer, Foobar2000 & VLC
- DCH3416 2y agoI ended up just compiling notepad from wine and tossing that into the windows directory. Among other things.
- iknowstuff 2y agoMy main OS is macOS but I use Windows for gaming. The reliance on crusty old ass applications like those on Windows is actually kinda depressing. Everything newer is garbage for various reasons, and everything old is ugly as hell. Macs have Pixelmator and Preview for images, Apple Notes is actually very decent for actual notes, Zed for nerdy text files, QuickTime/IINA for video (or hell even VLC looks much nicer than on Windows). All of them are modern, beautiful, and work well
- tmpz22 2y agoApple Notes on MacOS have been crashing for me constantly since shortly after Apple Intelligence beta started rolling out. Even though I'm not even on the beta.
- kylebenzle 2y agoMentioning all these programs and seeing the trouble people have I will never really understand why there are any men at all that still use Windows and Mac.
- DCH3416 2y agoI mean Haiku is the best OS in my opinion. But nobody really uses it because it lacks the software support. Sometimes you got to put up with the BS to get what you want done.
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- jamincan 2y agoWe've run into an issue with the new versions of notepad saving your edits to a temp file in the background so that you can continue where you left off without losing changes if you close notepad before saving. The problem is that this can make it ambiguous whether edits have been saved to the file or not and even someone reopening the file to verify that they remembered to save the information will be fooled into thinking its there.
- sfjailbird 2y agoSounds like a potential compliance issue too, if you work with sensitive data.
- JohnFen 2y agoI absolutely hate this feature. It can be effectively disabled, though. I still haven't figured out how to disable the tabs, unfortunately.
- TZubiri 2y agoNoooooo. Hopefully we still can access classic notepad with some command line option.
- npteljes 2y agoIt's not too much. It's a storm in a teacup, until major user migration happens. And I think that their business strategy is working way better than that.