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Also Note that if you do not earn enough, your kids get a universal stipend for university and uni is quite cheap at less than 1000€ per semester. It’s easy to

Also Note that if you do not earn enough, your kids get a universal stipend for university and uni is quite cheap at less than 1000€ per semester. It’s easy to get good education in Germany.

kulahan 2y ago
University is inexpensive in the US as well, but we have a culture of leaving your home state to go off to another college, which makes it significantly more expensive. Average semester cost for tuition and taxes alone is something like $3500/yr for in-state tuition rates (aka when you're going to a public college in your home state), which is quite reasonable when you consider the higher average earnings, lower average housing costs, and better average university educations.
- elashri 2y ago
  I was always under the impression that students who go to out of state college (some are because this is where they got accepted) will go and claim in state tuition after living the minimum (I think 1 year in most states) because they become residents of this state. So you basically pay the out of state tuition for the first year then in state after that. But the housing and food plans at most university (which is usually forced on first year students adds up to be an expensive).
  - nradov 2y ago
    No. Exact rules depend on the state, but most states don't consider students to be residents for tuition purposes just because you live there for a year. They look at other factors like where your parents live, where you pay taxes, whether you own real estate there, etc.
- nradov 2y ago
  In-state tuition discounts also have the perverse effect of encouraging state college administrators to admit more out-of-state and foreign students who pay full tuition.
  - vel0city 2y ago
    This is pretty wrong. I can't say for every state, but in many states schools get roughly the same amount for an in-state or out of state student it's just the state subsidizes a chunk for the in-state students.
    - aidenn0 2y ago
      I'm sure that it varies from state to state, but Purdue openly and explicitly capped the number of in-state students in order to support a tuition freeze.
- aidenn0 2y ago
  I just checked the total cost estimates for the two closest 4-year public universities to where I live. They are both around $35k. These estimates do include costs like food and housing. Tuition+fees+books alone are about $14k and $17k, plus an additional $3k for health insurance (which is semi-mandatory; my employer provided health-insurance does not meet the requirements to waive this, so if my kids were to go there, they would be required to buy it).
- vel0city 2y ago
  Tuition for in-state schools hasn't been $3,500/yr in decades. Most are $10k+, often more like ~$15k.

Also Note that if you do not earn enough, your kids get a universal stipend for university and uni is quite cheap at less than 1000€ per semester. It’s easy to get good education in Germany.

kulahan 2y ago

University is inexpensive in the US as well, but we have a culture of leaving your home state to go off to another college, which makes it significantly more expensive. Average semester cost for tuition and taxes alone is something like $3500/yr for in-state tuition rates (aka when you're going to a public college in your home state), which is quite reasonable when you consider the higher average earnings, lower average housing costs, and better average university educations.

elashri 2y ago
I was always under the impression that students who go to out of state college (some are because this is where they got accepted) will go and claim in state tuition after living the minimum (I think 1 year in most states) because they become residents of this state. So you basically pay the out of state tuition for the first year then in state after that. But the housing and food plans at most university (which is usually forced on first year students adds up to be an expensive).
- nradov 2y ago
  No. Exact rules depend on the state, but most states don't consider students to be residents for tuition purposes just because you live there for a year. They look at other factors like where your parents live, where you pay taxes, whether you own real estate there, etc.
nradov 2y ago
In-state tuition discounts also have the perverse effect of encouraging state college administrators to admit more out-of-state and foreign students who pay full tuition.
- vel0city 2y ago
  This is pretty wrong. I can't say for every state, but in many states schools get roughly the same amount for an in-state or out of state student it's just the state subsidizes a chunk for the in-state students.
  - aidenn0 2y ago
    I'm sure that it varies from state to state, but Purdue openly and explicitly capped the number of in-state students in order to support a tuition freeze.
aidenn0 2y ago
I just checked the total cost estimates for the two closest 4-year public universities to where I live. They are both around $35k. These estimates do include costs like food and housing. Tuition+fees+books alone are about $14k and $17k, plus an additional $3k for health insurance (which is semi-mandatory; my employer provided health-insurance does not meet the requirements to waive this, so if my kids were to go there, they would be required to buy it).
vel0city 2y ago
Tuition for in-state schools hasn't been $3,500/yr in decades. Most are $10k+, often more like ~$15k.